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Title: Women, dating, and wtf.
Post by: Mars on February 24, 2010, 01:52:56 am
I just noticed; I am far more likely to be accepted by a girl I look down upon than one I respect in dating matters.

Why is this?
Title: Re: Women, dating, and wtf.
Post by: FUBAR-BDHR on February 24, 2010, 02:08:10 am
No response but I'm breaking out the popcorn. 
Title: Re: Women, dating, and wtf.
Post by: Colonol Dekker on February 24, 2010, 02:35:02 am
No no no. . .
 
This is nonsense. Don't look down on women, just don't be a pushover or a lovesick puppy.
 You can be respectful and still be a man.
Title: Re: Women, dating, and wtf.
Post by: Dilmah G on February 24, 2010, 02:45:57 am
Mars, you're confusing wittiness with being a dickhead.

EDIT: Or well, teasing the girl a little.

And it's probably because your standards are too high, if the only women that appeal to you are supposedly below your benchmark.
Title: Re: Women, dating, and wtf.
Post by: JMN on February 24, 2010, 02:46:59 am
I just noticed; I am far more likely to be accepted by a girl I look down upon than one I respect in dating matters.

Why is this?
Just two advices from DavidX, the world most successful pick up artist:
- "who cares what she thinks"
- "in a relationship you are most important"
just apply it IRL with total sincerity about your needs and shazaam ;)
ps.
don't wonder why it works, it works :)
Title: Re: Women, dating, and wtf.
Post by: Goober5000 on February 24, 2010, 02:48:30 am
Women want to date and marry men whom they consider superior to themselves.  (Even women who are doctors and CEOs.)  So try levelling up somewhere: fitness, intelligence, social sophistication, job level, etc.

Men can artificially create this situation by treating women with contempt, thus fooling them into thinking they are inferior.  This is not an ideal strategy, of course.

/me deploys anti-personnel shield
Title: Re: Women, dating, and wtf.
Post by: Dilmah G on February 24, 2010, 02:50:40 am
I just noticed; I am far more likely to be accepted by a girl I look down upon than one I respect in dating matters.

Why is this?
Just two advices from DavidX, the world most successful pick up artist:
- "who cares what she thinks"
- "in a relationship you are most important"
just apply it IRL with total sincerity about your needs and shazaam ;)
ps.
don't wonder why it works, it works :)
Methinks poor interpretation of those two quotes is going to get someone nowhere.

Women want to date and marry men whom they consider superior to themselves.  (Even women who are doctors and CEOs.)  So try levelling up somewhere: fitness, intelligence, social sophistication, job level, etc.

Men can artificially create this situation by treating women with contempt, thus fooling them into thinking they are inferior.  This is not an ideal strategy, of course.

/me deploys anti-personnel shield
Never heard that line of thinking before. Interesting.
Title: Re: Women, dating, and wtf.
Post by: Colonol Dekker on February 24, 2010, 03:13:48 am
It's true though. Most women do want some responsibility taken away from them. This is human female nature. Whether hardcoded or not it is the very foundation of the dynamic.
 
People (men and women both) want a partner they can be co-dependant with. Not a bend over backwards conformer(slave) or fully dependant (child) personality type other half.
 
Initially at least.
Title: Re: Women, dating, and wtf.
Post by: Klaustrophobia on February 24, 2010, 03:17:53 am
Women want to date and marry men whom they consider superior to themselves.  (Even women who are doctors and CEOs.)  So try levelling up somewhere: fitness, intelligence, social sophistication, job level, etc.

Men can artificially create this situation by treating women with contempt, thus fooling them into thinking they are inferior.  This is not an ideal strategy, of course.

/me deploys anti-personnel shield

gah, i wish that worked for me.  what with being a rather accomplished athelete and a nuclear engineer and all.  :doubt:
Title: Re: Women, dating, and wtf.
Post by: Colonol Dekker on February 24, 2010, 03:22:51 am
Are you Doc Connors or Reed Richards :confused:
Title: Re: Women, dating, and wtf.
Post by: NGTM-1R on February 24, 2010, 03:31:27 am
Women want to date and marry men whom they consider superior to themselves.  (Even women who are doctors and CEOs.)  So try levelling up somewhere: fitness, intelligence, social sophistication, job level, etc.

Men can artificially create this situation by treating women with contempt, thus fooling them into thinking they are inferior.  This is not an ideal strategy, of course.

/me deploys anti-personnel shield

Wow Goob. Tell us how you really feel about sex and gender. Don't hold back.
Title: Re: Women, dating, and wtf.
Post by: Bob-san on February 24, 2010, 03:57:29 am
I just noticed; I am far more likely to be accepted by a girl I look down upon than one I respect in dating matters.

Why is this?
Probably because you feel more confident in yourself by "dating down". You probably feel vulnerable when dating someone you see as an equal.
Title: Re: Women, dating, and wtf.
Post by: Kosh on February 24, 2010, 05:13:04 am
I just noticed; I am far more likely to be accepted by a girl I look down upon than one I respect in dating matters.

Why is this?


Girls are stupid. They take all the rights and privliges won by the previous generation and basically piss it away, at least when it comes to this. You know the saying, nice guys finish last.
Title: Re: Women, dating, and wtf.
Post by: Rick James on February 24, 2010, 05:52:22 am
Girls are stupid. They take all the rights and privliges won by the previous generation and basically piss it away, at least when it comes to this. You know the saying, nice guys finish last.

Bull****, from start to finish. Generally speaking, a great many teenage girls are that way, but those in college or other higher education make for a more palatable dating pool. Nice guys finish last? Nice guys tend to finish with women who care about things like intelligence and confidence.
Title: Re: Women, dating, and wtf.
Post by: General Battuta on February 24, 2010, 05:55:09 am
 :(
Title: Re: Women, dating, and wtf.
Post by: Fineus on February 24, 2010, 06:19:48 am
Something to bear in mind here...

Everyone is making sweeping generalizations. Now I usually like those - they're based on some kind of logic even if it is sometimes fuzzy. But you have to keep in mind that everyone is different, unique, won't necessarily fit into whatever bracket you intended to put them in.

You might decide to try dating "below" your punching weight in order to get your confidence up, but the girl that you pick out might have just had a string of abusive relationships and decide to stop taking any **** from the men in her life - so you move in with an air of confidence and pow, she shoots you down. You couldn't see it coming, but it's easy to see why assumptions don't always work out the way you planned... see?

I don't think there has ever been a hard and fast rule to dating. You can narrow it down some but it's not an exact science.
Title: Re: Women, dating, and wtf.
Post by: Dilmah G on February 24, 2010, 06:31:02 am
Girls are stupid. They take all the rights and privliges won by the previous generation and basically piss it away, at least when it comes to this. You know the saying, nice guys finish last.

Bull****, from start to finish. Generally speaking, a great many teenage girls are that way, but those in college or other higher education make for a more palatable dating pool. Nice guys finish last? Nice guys tend to finish with women who care about things like intelligence and confidence.
Amen. Combine being a decent human being with a good sense of humour + wittiness, and you're set. Takes practice to pull it off, sure, so does everything else in this world.
Title: Re: Women, dating, and wtf.
Post by: JMN on February 24, 2010, 07:10:56 am
Quote from: Rick James
Quote from: Kosh
Girls are stupid. They take all the rights and privliges won by the previous generation and basically piss it away, at least when it comes to this. You know the saying, nice guys finish last.


Bull****, from start to finish. Generally speaking, a great many teenage girls are that way, but those in college or other higher education make for a more palatable dating pool. Nice guys finish last? Nice guys tend to finish with women who care about things like intelligence and confidence.
... and are usually ugly ( intelligence and confidence are such pretty words for that :) )
Actually yes and no. Last guys do finish last and even more then that - what they get as last can be taken away from them at any moment by more aggressive players.

Quote from: Kalfireth
Something to bear in mind here...

Everyone is making sweeping generalizations. Now I usually like those - they're based on some kind of logic even if it is sometimes fuzzy. But you have to keep in mind that everyone is different, unique, won't necessarily fit into whatever bracket you intended to put them in.

You might decide to try dating "below" your punching weight in order to get your confidence up, but the girl that you pick out might have just had a string of abusive relationships and decide to stop taking any **** from the men in her life - so you move in with an air of confidence and pow, she shoots you down. You couldn't see it coming, but it's easy to see why assumptions don't always work out the way you planned... see?

I don't think there has ever been a hard and fast rule to dating. You can narrow it down some but it's not an exact science.
You hit the nail on the head. It's usually easier picking up prettier gals, they're more open to men and don't have many psychological blockades ugly girls have.


Quote from: Dilmah G
Takes practice to pull it off, sure, so does everything else in this world.

Amen.
Title: Re: Women, dating, and wtf.
Post by: S-99 on February 24, 2010, 07:23:30 am
Be yourself, and be an asshole. Do not be a dickhead.
This is advice coming from someone who's extremely bitter about the whole dating scene (in alaska).
You tend to get this way when all you meet are idiots, alcoholics, drug abusers, or women who had kids at age 15 (alaska's pretty bad to find this on a consistent basis).
Tell you what, that ought to just narrow down anyones dating :yes:
Title: Re: Women, dating, and wtf.
Post by: Dilmah G on February 24, 2010, 07:27:05 am
Marketing yourself, so to speak, in a more attractive manner doesn't hurt either. (as opposed to acting like a completely different person and not being yourself.)

Wear some nice clothes and have a shower.  :yes:
Title: Re: Women, dating, and wtf.
Post by: Commander Zane on February 24, 2010, 08:41:57 am
You tend to get this way when all you meet are idiots, alcoholics, drug abusers, or women who had kids at age 15.
Ooh, it's just like Arizona. :P
Title: Re: Women, dating, and wtf.
Post by: perihelion on February 24, 2010, 09:12:34 am
 :blah:
You know, rampant sexism probably isn't the best way to win a lady's heart.  If you even believe half of the bull**** being spewed forth as "wisdom" on this thread, it will eventually become apparent to her, and who could blame her for despising you for it.  <--- [rant not targeted at any particular person, just the general level of ambient sexism in this thread, I mean Sweet Jesus!]
Title: Re: Women, dating, and wtf.
Post by: Aardwolf on February 24, 2010, 09:19:34 am
Somewhat relevant to this thread:

My ex-gf (having been my only gf to date) once said that I was the only guy (or was it 'boyfriend' ?) who ever liked her for more than just her looks. Apparently the boyfriends she had after me were horrible. And now she's a lesbian. So uh... bleh.
Title: Re: Women, dating, and wtf.
Post by: Hero_Swe on February 24, 2010, 09:23:57 am
Somewhat relevant to this thread:

My ex-gf (having been my only gf to date) once said that I was the only guy (or was it 'boyfriend' ?) who ever liked her for more than just her looks. Apparently the boyfriends she had after me were horrible. And now she's a lesbian. So uh... bleh.


Looks like she had a case of...*puts on glasses*








Derp
Title: Re: Women, dating, and wtf.
Post by: Kosh on February 24, 2010, 09:34:18 am
Girls are stupid. They take all the rights and privliges won by the previous generation and basically piss it away, at least when it comes to this. You know the saying, nice guys finish last.

Bull****, from start to finish. Generally speaking, a great many teenage girls are that way, but those in college or other higher education make for a more palatable dating pool. Nice guys finish last? Nice guys tend to finish with women who care about things like intelligence and confidence.

There is a better choice in college, but at least at the tier 2 and tier 3 schools you wont find them until the junior or senior year. All the other times they are too busy partying to notice.
Title: Re: Women, dating, and wtf.
Post by: chief1983 on February 24, 2010, 09:53:03 am
At an engineering school, you never find them.  They come down with Princess syndrome in the first few weeks.  Then the shy type is pretty much screwed, unless he's gonna settle for the chicks that actually approach guys first.  Have fun with that.

Women don't all _want_ the equal treatment that previous generations have fought for.  I'm sure many of them would rather be treated differently than a man.  Most of the women I talk to these days are going into veterinarian training, RNs, counselors, teachers, etc, and are probably more than willing to be the stay at home type once they settle down.  The type of woman I'm looking for _wants_ a man, not wants to _be_ a man.  I think in the end women's lib won't ever be completely achieved, because not a lot of them give two ****s.

Reference (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IR63U7_Y7Ik)
Title: Re: Women, dating, and wtf.
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on February 24, 2010, 10:37:33 am
Somewhat relevant to this thread:

My ex-gf (having been my only gf to date) once said that I was the only guy (or was it 'boyfriend' ?) who ever liked her for more than just her looks. Apparently the boyfriends she had after me were horrible. And now she's a lesbian. So uh... bleh.

C'est la vie, Aardwolf. :blah:

Console yourself in that you actually had a girlfriend. I'm 19 years old now and I've yet to come across a girl worth giving attention to. It's not that I'm surrounded by unpleasant girls; it's just that they're not what I'm looking for.
Title: Re: Women, dating, and wtf.
Post by: iamzack on February 24, 2010, 10:47:16 am
...

I don't have time for this magnitude of retardation right now, guys.

One thing that stuck out: Someone said something about the intelligent and confident girls being ugly.

That statement is just as true as this one: "Nice guys are ugly and socially incompetent."

So maybe you guys should think about that, eh?
Title: Re: Women, dating, and wtf.
Post by: General Battuta on February 24, 2010, 11:17:14 am
Seriously. This is some fantastically sad ****.

The fact that my very first relationship destroyed every bit of advice in this thread suggests that most of you are, in fact, raging pricks (at least in this particular regard.)
Title: Re: Women, dating, and wtf.
Post by: JMN on February 24, 2010, 12:29:05 pm
One thing that stuck out: Someone said something about the intelligent and confident girls being ugly.

That statement is just as true as this one: "Nice guys are ugly and socially incompetent."

So maybe you guys should think about that, eh?
I said that. But i also agree with you in a way. Nice guys are usually socially incompetent because they believe that being very nice actually works when interacting with women. They are also sometimes unkempt, with yellow teeth, not often baths, dirty nails etc.
But when someone says about women that they are intelligent etc. it's usually because to cover the fact that they are not hot babes.
Title: Re: Women, dating, and wtf.
Post by: iamzack on February 24, 2010, 12:44:28 pm
Actually, having known quite a few Nice Guys(TM) in my time, nice guys who ***** and complain about girls never going for nice guys... aren't. They tend to be under the impression that women owe them something. Their thought process goes like this: "I'm such a nice guy, I deserve to sleep with this girl!" Noooope.
Title: Re: Women, dating, and wtf.
Post by: chief1983 on February 24, 2010, 01:09:29 pm
Yup.  It needs to be more like, you should sleep with me because you'll enjoy it :)
Title: Re: Women, dating, and wtf.
Post by: Fury on February 24, 2010, 01:13:34 pm
:wtf:
Title: Re: Women, dating, and wtf.
Post by: karajorma on February 24, 2010, 07:39:36 pm
Women want to date and marry men whom they consider superior to themselves.

I assume this holds equally true for any man worthy of being with.

Cause otherwise the amount of fail in that sentence is huge.