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Hosted Projects - Standalone => Diaspora => Topic started by: Locutus of Borg on March 19, 2010, 11:04:49 pm
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More boring
More nothing happening
Hopefully the finale will make up for the recent slow episodes. I'm upset that they're using the microseason model for this show though :(
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What do you mean nothing happens. Plenty in this one. Yea there was a lot of plot but it wasn't boring at all.
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Adama is no closer to finding Tamara
Daniel is no closer to reaching Zoe
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I agree with fubar.I thought it was a good ep.The only thing I didnt like was the tranny.Too weird.
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I enjoyed the episode. Some interesting things:
* The way Zoe's avatar portrayed Daniel Graystone's actions to Lacy. In the scenes with Daniel, we're meant to empathise with him and his struggle to contact his daughter. In the scenes with Lacy, Zoe makes her dad out to be a monster.
* Speaking of which, it's interesting that Zoe is so entwined with the robot - knowing military routines that are hard-coded, the weight of a gun, etc. I'd been wondering how that worked. I mean, if the military robot had its entire programming replaced by that of a teenage girl (even one who was determined to pretend) it'd be kind of obvious.
* Hacking the holoband to take drugs. It's obviously an advanced interface with the mind that goes both ways, which opens up all sorts of possibilities. In the previous episode, talking about giving your avatar skills that your meat body doesn't have is interesting. I wonder if that would also let you learn skills to use in the real world, Matrix-style?
* Gratuitous fanservice to BSG space combat nuts like us! There is really no critical plot-relevant reason for airships and fighters in V-world, let alone choosing a flight simulator as a first date. We should be appreciative :p
* Looking forward to Joseph tracking down Tamara. Not just 'cause she's hot, but because I'm intrigued as to her transformation. She started out so naive and timid, but now seems to be (literally) making her mark on V-world.
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I enjoyed the episode. Some interesting things:
* The way Zoe's avatar portrayed Daniel Graystone's actions to Lacy. In the scenes with Daniel, we're meant to empathise with him and his struggle to contact his daughter. In the scenes with Lacy, Zoe makes her dad out to be a monster.
It's kind of like Battlestar where everyone was 'shades of grey' rather than there being black and white pure good and evil. Except, said 'scales' are far more closer together here. I have to say however, even during the 'pro-daniel' scenes, I still perceive him as the bad guy, soley due to his methods. Even though Zoe is a Cylon... so surely I should see her as the bad side?
Also, what is that airship/fighters for? is it player controlled or is it merely a part on the New Cap City program? And finally, I have to wonder: Will Tamara end up inside a Cylon body?
Overall, not one of the worse episodes i've seen, but still not one of the best.
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I'd say since no one knows the goal of newcapcity, some people would think that it's 'to be the last player', as such, they'd want to blow away every one.
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The "torture" scenes were rather intense.I didnt think Daniel would be someone who would actually make his "daughter" try and kill her own dog.
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The "torture" scenes were rather intense.I didnt think Daniel would be someone who would actually make his "daughter" try and kill her own dog.
No wonder she declares war ont he colonies is it? Her dad has just become in real life, the problems she had with the V-World
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So, how many of you noticed the colonial one in the very first shot of this ep? Also, I agree with fubar - good episode.
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Missed that was getting a beer. Well actually 3 I was thirsty.
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Its not actually colonial one.Just the same type of passenger liner ship.
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well duh.
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Its not actually colonial one.Just the same type of passenger liner ship.
Thanks for stating the perfectly obvious :) Point is they took the same CGI model of the colonial one and placed it there. The fact that in the plot it's most likely a different ship of the same class is both obvious and irrelevant.
Also, were you the guy who placed this sign here? :D
(http://i41.tinypic.com/nowwi8.jpg)
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LOL.(Sarcastically)Yeah im probably the one who put that sign up.
The only reason I pointed out that its just the same ship class is because I figured some may take literally what you said about it being colonial one.
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Hey guys there's a ship in the BSG miniseries that's the same as galactica, but destroyed. It must be the real galactica! and the whole series was a fake!
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Hey guys there's a ship in the BSG miniseries that's the same as galactica, but destroyed. It must be the real galactica! and the whole series was a fake!
Considering how it went towards the end, I'll believe that.
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I'm also with FUBAR here... sometimes, sure it feels slow and "boring" but the more I watch it, the more I like how they go for the character development. On that note, it is similar to BSG.
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Fraktu are you high?That ship is obviously the Columbia or another Galactica class ship.
Wait.Your just setting me up to point out another obvious thing again arnt you?
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unlikely to be a second Columbia of the same class, seeming we saw it destroyed in 1st Cylon War. But yes, there are atleast 10 more battlestars of that class it could of been ;)
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I thought they rebuilt the Columbia?
http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Columbia_%28RDM%29#Second_Columbia (http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Columbia_%28RDM%29#Second_Columbia)
But if it was built closer to the 2nd cylon war than its probably either a Mercury or Valkyrie class Battlestar.
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Well, seeming the origianl one was destroyed in the final battle of the war, it may be a newer model (can't really give an estimate to which class, or a new class). Wasn't it said in the mini-series only 12 galactica type vessels where built? or was that just during the war?
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Yes, the original Columbia was destroyed during 1CW. Yes, it was rebuilt. No, we do not have any information about what class she belonged to.
Galactica was part of the first original run of Battlestars built, presumably they later constructed more ships of that class.
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Originally there were 12 battlestar built at the beginning of the war.Then later on dozens perhaps hundreds more were built.
Heres also another class that I dont see being modeled for Diaspora yet.Its the called the Berzerk class.Its not a battlestar but an escort.Its above the mercury class battlestar.
(http://media.battlestarwiki.org/images/0/01/Pegasus%2C_Scorpion_Shipyards.jpg)
Back to Caprica.The next episode End of Line looks like its going to be the season finale.Does anyone know if its the real season finale or the mid season finale?
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Mid-season. It's going to pick up again in Fall.
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Can't they do regular seasons like everyone else?
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Sure they could. However, this way they can cash in on the Season 1.5 DVD sets.
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At least they're not doing what V did, have 4 episodes and then stop for 4 months.
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hehe, Mid season Finalies. Welcome to SyFy (Which means Sky1 also has to have huge breaks...)
As for the Bezerk, it's a canon ship class, so chances are it will be in Diaspora in one of the releases (maybe not R1 though). I think the original design for the Bezerk was as an escort, but the model they used in Razor seems to be much more bigger than the fan-made design it was based upon
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Regular seasons LIKE EVERYONE ELSE?
Name one show besides 24 that doesn't have these so called 'mis-season finales'
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Regular seasons LIKE EVERYONE ELSE?
Name one show besides 24 that doesn't have these so called 'mis-season finales'
Star Wars: The Clone Wars.
Rather then having one mid season hiatus that show is on hiatus every few episodes :)
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Is it me, or did that dog seem remarkably unfazed after it was shot by blank rounds? It was still sat there (like it always does) even after being shot 3 times!
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Technically it wasn't shot since those were blanks. Unless you mean the sound should have scared him? Depends on the dog I suppose. Mine would be under a bed or whatever crawlable space she could find :P Then again there are dogs that are completely unimpressed by things like thunder or firecrackers at new years's etc.
Oh and me being a dog guy - I disliked Zoe before but since she was willing to shoot her dog just so she doesn't reveal herself to her dad my dislike turned into utter contempt.
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The dog still squarked on every shot however.
Well, Zoe said she already knew they where blanks due to the guns weight (Scarry Cylon stuff!), and if they'd been real, she'd of shot Daniel.
Persoanlly, i dislike Daniel more right now after everything he put Zoe/The Robot through in the episode. Maybe I just dislike him for creating the robots that will wipe out most of humanity?
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Considering Daniel was a father who was trying to get his daughter back, his actions are understandable to a certain extent.
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I'm on daniels side in that. Zoe needs to grow up! :P
Also, the Berzerk looks more like a military transport than any form of battlestar.
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I'm on daniels side in that. Zoe needs to grow up! :P
Also, the Berzerk looks more like a military transport garbage scow than any form of battlestar.
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Well, Zoe said she already knew they where blanks due to the guns weight (Scarry Cylon stuff!), and if they'd been real, she'd of shot Daniel.
Not scary Cylon stuff. That's quite possible for us normal humans. It happened to me once at the range when somebody loaded in a set of blanks as a prank. :P
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Especially when blanks can be lethal at close range. Heck the dog should have been hit by the wadding and powder residue at that range.
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Maybe theirs are super sci-fi blanks designed for your comfort? In any event the dog not getting too phased by blanks is not what I'd call a pivotal or even remotely relevant moment in the show :)
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Repeat these words after me: "It is only a TV show. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MST3KMantra)"
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Yea those guns probably barely make any noise and have plugged barrels. It's all done in post.
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Well, yeah, i mean, i'd assume they wouldnt of shot the dog while filming, even with blank rounds! :P
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No animals were scared to death during the filming of this show.
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Except a few prototype toasters.
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Well, yeah, i mean, i'd assume they wouldnt of shot the dog while filming, even with blank rounds! :P
If you watch carefully, you don't actually see the dog in any of the [video] shots where the [pistol] shots were fired. Prob'ly wasn't even there for those bits.
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I think we need to get the CSI: Miami crew to go over the scene and figure out the dog thing. *newman puts on his sunglasses* Yeahhh..
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I think we need to get the CSI: Miami crew to go over the scene and figure out the dog thing. *newman puts on his sunglasses* Yeahhh..
I'm waiting for the CSI spinoff where they use "Pinball Wizard" as the theme song
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Actually, this is a case for: Columbo! :D
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I think we need to get the CSI: Miami crew to go over the scene and figure out the dog thing. *newman puts on his sunglasses* Yeahhh..
Maybe thats what the next Battlestar Spin-off will be: CSI Caprica. Which will obviously have 11 other spin off shows, includeing CSI: Tauron, Aerlion, etc.
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I still want to see a CSI: Moscow.
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What about CSI:Caprica?
Damn didnt read the post above by wolfy.You stole my idea!
It could also be a Miami Vice crossover show.That cop played by Edward James Olmos is Adamas descendant.lol.
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btw.
Who elso want to see one of these Tauron Warmovies?
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There is no way that the "Centurion part" could have known the gun held blanks - the weight difference could have been down to different types of ammunition or simply having less than a full magazine. So, Zoe is a psychopath. Daniel's character is certainly flawed, as is BSG's norm, but Zoe's character is despicable - she's a spoilt and immature brat, comparable to the less saccharine characters in 90210 (the original version). Daniels at least has an excuse for his irrational behaviour - his mourning and desperation to find his daughter again, and he did not harm the dog or sanction the killing of the two Virgis workers - he merely told Adama he needed the chip. He's a tough businessman, but is nothing worse than a work obsessed, ambitious and slightly cold father.
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Errrm. I should point out to you that, unless there are clear statements to the contrary in the show, we probably should take Zoe's statement that she could tell the gun was loaded with blanks at face value.
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I still don't like her. Spoiled brat, indeed.
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Another reason not to like her: Shes a terrorist inside a huge robotic war machine!!!
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She wasn't actually a terrorist, that was Ben Stark. Zoe just wanted to go to Gemenon where she could freely worship the One True God. Although I don't see how that is possible as Gemenons take the ancient scrolls of their polytheistic faith literally, which means monotheism should be right out on their planet.
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They do that by the time of BSG, but have they always been that way? Besides, I don't think we really know what they wanted to do on Gemenon.
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Gemenon is a big planet. All indications seem to be that it's religion-central for the Colonies. They have the most orthodox polytheists, but they're also the headquarters of the monotheistic movement.
Back in Season 4 of BSG, it was the Gemenese delegate to the quorum who defended Baltar's cult as being rather similar to an accepted minority religion on her planet.
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There is no way that the "Centurion part" could have known the gun held blanks - the weight difference could have been down to different types of ammunition or simply having less than a full magazine.
To keep a weapon's performance characteristics as consistant as possible you will find that different ammunition types, even from different manufacturers, will have near-identical weights. A bullet is nearly all of a cartridge's weight and the reason you can tell the difference with blanks is because there's no bullets. The gun will feel almost unloaded. Any sort of ammunition that weighed remotely the same amount as a blank round would alter the performance characteristics of the weapon severely, to the point it would basically seem like firing a different gun. It would also cause an extreme reduction in the weapon's stopping power. No one is going to produce and sell such a cartridge.
As to having a less than full clip: Again, the bullets are the main source of weight in a cartridge. The powder doesn't add enough to be noticible even if all the cartridges don't have any and all the cartridge casings together probably add up to a single bullet. If Zoe had any possible way of knowing there was more than one round in the magazine, she would have been able to deduce they were blanks. (And beyond a certain number of non-blank rounds there would be a perceptible change in balance.)
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There is no way that the "Centurion part" could have known the gun held blanks - the weight difference could have been down to different types of ammunition or simply having less than a full magazine.
To keep a weapon's performance characteristics as consistant as possible you will find that different ammunition types, even from different manufacturers, will have near-identical weights. A bullet is nearly all of a cartridge's weight and the reason you can tell the difference with blanks is because there's no bullets. The gun will feel almost unloaded. Any sort of ammunition that weighed remotely the same amount as a blank round would alter the performance characteristics of the weapon severely, to the point it would basically seem like firing a different gun. It would also cause an extreme reduction in the weapon's stopping power. No one is going to produce and sell such a cartridge.
As to having a less than full clip: Again, the bullets are the main source of weight in a cartridge. The powder doesn't add enough to be noticible even if all the cartridges don't have any and all the cartridge casings together probably add up to a single bullet. If Zoe had any possible way of knowing there was more than one round in the magazine, she would have been able to deduce they were blanks. (And beyond a certain number of non-blank rounds there would be a perceptible change in balance.)
I am ex-forces, so I'm quite familiar with the differences between blanks and different types of ammunition. Blanks are much lighter, but the bullet does not constitute most of the mass of the round. The difference in mass between hollow-point (dum-dum) and plain parabellum rounds would also be significant, as would the different between standard rounds and magnum rounds, armour piercing and so on. It's a plot device that has no grounding in reality.
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Well, it is a sophisticated military robot. It could probably identify the amount and types of rounds based on the most subtle facets of the gun's weight and balance.