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Community Projects => The FreeSpace Wiki Project => Topic started by: Androgeos Exeunt on March 31, 2010, 10:31:59 am
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Yes, the one and only, and about time too.
The Second Great War Part 2 is brilliant. It is THE most underrated mod in the whole of FreeSpace. For sheer excitement and enjoyment, there is nothing that beats it. It is, hands down, the best mod for FreeSpace I've played ever since I got into FS2. If you thought BP:AoA:DC and PI are good, you'll find that comparing them to SGWP2 is like comparing two twigs to a pillar of diamonds.
(http://hijmrg.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pXxtUDeD31IpR-jlzgeTTL9e63-27sue3L9CYi0cGw9-wrlLJcRNZsyIDNI-DvUTiWUXVFp7_emZoJOrq10urqjnWbIUGpsM1/FSWikiSGWP2_2010.png)
That's from http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page. Go look around. :)
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It started off very slowly, but past the first command briefing, it was sheer, unadulterated, triple distilled awesome.
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You just know someone is going to come along and take this serioulsy.../me facepalms preemptively
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:lol:
I love you guys.
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You just know someone is going to come along and take this serioulsy.../me facepalms preemptively
Because it's still the in the afternoon in the US. :)
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It's the campaign that got myself interested in HLP.
I salute you!
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It's not April Fools' anymore can we get rid of it now?
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Actually, could we get the Blue Planet Director's Cut featured? I'd like to make sure those voice actors get a good audience, and while it's already a popular campaign, I think all that community effort (both inside and outside HLP) that went into it deserves some more spotlight time.
EDIT: okay, this was a bad idea, please don't kill me
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That's not the only campaign out there, not to mention it's not NEW. If it's about changing the featured campaign, set it Storm Front, that's not an update and it's even more recent, and it's not OVERADVERTISED like BP.
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Nothing can be done while BW has the Wiki in a stranglehold anyway.
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That's not the only campaign out there, not to mention it's not NEW. If it's about changing the featured campaign, set it Storm Front, that's not an update and it's even more recent, and it's not OVERADVERTISED like BP.
It's the biggest recent release since Silent Threat Reborn. I was under the impression that featured campaigns were largely determined by quality, right? The Procyon Insurgency was the last one on there, and ST:R was up for a while before that.
BP gets a lot of exposure due to its popularity, but Darius is actually rather publicity-shy which leaves it up to the fans. Given the huge number of people involved in this release, I think it's worthwhile. (And as I mentioned before, that one Wiki incident was just a copy/paste error, not an advertisement.)
We can do Storm Front afterwards if you're all right with that - it's a new release, after all, and probably deserves some time to season.
Once the wiki is un-locked-down I'll work on setting it up if you're okay with it.
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You received an entire, separate forum for a BP update, not a new release (at least not until WiH is done, which is a different matter), people talk a lot about BP anyway, largely due to you advertising BP in almost every single post you make. What else do you want? You're giving the impression that FS modding is wholly about Blue Planet.
I'm not even sure that requesting BP be set as a new featured campaign is ethical by a staffer, especially if this staffer happens to be the most adamant fan of the mod.
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Oh, hardly. There are lots of other great mods that I mention in 'every post' - the standard list is Derelict, Transcend, ST:R, Windmills, The Procyon Insurgency, and a couple others, not to mention the total conversions.
And the Blue Planet forum existed well before the voice acting effort ever started, or before I even joined the team - in fact, it showed up back when Darius was the only person involved, so I have no idea what the process behind it was. So the BP forum was actually a reward for the original campaign being so good; it had nothing to do with the Director's Cut and predated it by months or years.
In any case what you're calling a 'BP update' was a huge new release, with a ton of voice acting, and it's mostly those voice actors I'm hoping to reward. Dozens of community members and semi-pros helped out.
I do agree with your last point, though, I'll leave it up to those who don't have a stake in it. I'd just like to see those voice actors given the spotlight at some point.
(Out of curiosity, did you actually play the Director's Cut? As a piece of work it's pretty substantial; in fact, it contributed one of the coolest changes in modding in recent years, namely the new AI Fury did based on Wanderer and Sushi's code. It's not exactly a patch.)
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It's highlighted, there's a stickied thread about it in a separate, frequently visited forum. Very few campaigns have the privilege of this. Mostly campaigns just disappear, even those that many people worked on.
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Well, like I just said:
I do agree with your last point, though, I'll leave it up to those who don't have a stake in it. I'd just like to see those voice actors given the spotlight at some point.
So I'm not sure what you're worried about - I agree that it was a breach of etiquette to make the request.
And frankly most campaigns disappear because they aren't great or aren't polished.
I guess the question here is whether spotlighted campaigns should be selected on the basis of quality, or on the basis of needing a boost. I'd love to see Windmills spotlighted at some point because it was just that damn good, but it also didn't get a massive amount of buzz the way Transcend has.
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And I apologize if you feel like there's been any spotlight-whoring going on. But I think BP's been good for the modding scene in general; we try to release our cool stuff for everybody to use.
If there's anything you want to talk about, though, let me know.
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Actually, I would agree with TopAce. As our download numbers, and the number of visitors and commenters in our forum shows, we are getting all the feedback we could wish for, and while more wouldn't hurt (we ARE blatant publicity whores, after all), it also isn't necessary. Always remember Our Glorious Leader's words: "We are a humble mod". BP has been a featured campaign in the past, it will be again at some point in the future.
After all, the featured campaign thing is meant to highlight not only campaigns that already are famous, it is meant to wake interest in lesser known ones as well.
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Yeah, you're right. I am disgraced.
I shall commit virtual seppuku!
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Yeah, you're right. I am disgraced.
I shall commit virtual seppuku!
Please post your suicide poem here.
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blatant fanboy's reach
exceeds proper humility
topace pwns him good
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;-)
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What does any this have to do with the Featured Campaign?
April Fool's is over. I suggest with the utmost humility to the Supervisory Administrator, our infallible leader Black Wolf, that we change the featured campaign.
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What does any this have to do with the Featured Campaign?
He's listing some examples to prove that quality is a matter of perception.
By the way, the articles will reopen on the 7 April.
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;-)
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Oh - that's an unusual proposal.
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The Golgotha from BWO would be ideal as a replacement for the Colossus and should have been used in TSGWP II if it was remotely possible, which it wasn't and still isn't, since that model is still not released and it is 2010. What the hell? If the Golgotha is ever released, maybe someone can go back and remake TSGWP II and replace all Colossus vessels in it with the Golgotha, if TSGWP II is even considered worthy of a remake.
The only models that existed back when this campaign was released were junky ones, like the low poly blurry textured ones used in Unholy Alliance or using the same FS2 models with simple reskins and altered specs and tables and a name change (very common for a few years following FS2's release, and it was disappointing).
The MT Juggernaut was out back then :nervous:
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And the focus of most modellers was to make a capship capable of 'defeating' it.
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Pointless when you realize what is capable of defeating what is just numbers in a tbl, or some SEXPs in FRED.
Unless of course, they set out to defeat it in terms of aesthetics.
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BP is good, but I wouldn't want to play it over and over again. Also, whether or not something is considered a good campaign is a perception. It all depends on how picky someone is, I guess.
True, that. :nod:
The MT Juggernaut was out back then :nervous:
Got a picture of it somewhere?
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;-)
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The MT Juggernaut was out back then :nervous:
Got a picture of it somewhere?
Great preserver.
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To all: Black Wolf hasn't been available since April 1st, because he had to ship out somewhere for work or school related purposes. He asked me to revert the changes after April Fools was over, and I agreed, but then I got super-busy for a couple of days. Mea culpa. :nervous:
Now as for which campaign people want to feature, that's pretty much up to the whim of whoever is editing the wiki. If you want to feature a campaign, edit the template and do so. Both PI and ST:R were "featured" on the wiki by their respective campaign authors. :p
It's the featured campaign "of the moment", after all, so it can change frequently. Just be considerate and leave the previous campaign in place for a week or so before you change it.
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Now as for which campaign people want to feature, that's pretty much up to the whim of whoever is editing the wiki. If you want to feature a campaign, edit the template and do so. Both PI and ST:R were "featured" on the wiki by their respective campaign authors.
Jesus. I have the courtesy to ask and I get reamed over it. Apparently I should have just gone ahead with it! :p
Not that I'm mad at TopAce - he's totally correct, campaign creators shouldn't be selecting the features - but looking at the history of the section, it seems like it's mostly been used as advertising for new campaign releases (with the exception of PI.)
Anyway, my vote's for Windmills at the moment.
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Jesus.
Yes, today is the day we celebrate his resurrection. :nod:
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Yeah, you're right. I am disgraced.
I shall commit virtual seppuku!
(http://blueplanet.hard-light.net/ShakeHeadSigh.gif) Son, I am disappoint.
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Even if it was apparently standard practice, yes, it was unbecoming of me. I am sorry.
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I'm fine with Windmills.
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Pointless when you realize what is capable of defeating what is just numbers in a tbl, or some SEXPs in FRED.
Unless of course, they set out to defeat it in terms of aesthetics.
Hey man things were primitive back then.
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No phones, no lights, no motorcars. Not a single luxury.
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I went to check on the article just now, and saw that Droid has salvaged the screenshots template for use there. Good on him for doing that, so I've made the screenshots a little larger, because most of the screens have quite a bit of text to read.
I've also added a link to the VP version of SGWP2, available on FSMods. This is the version I use, and it is, if anything, just as stable as the original, and probably worth a look for those who don't like having a ton of files in their mod folders. ;)
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;-)