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Community Projects => The FreeSpace Upgrade Project => Topic started by: Scourge of Ages on April 12, 2010, 02:06:25 am

Title: Missile trails issue
Post by: Scourge of Ages on April 12, 2010, 02:06:25 am: So I'm running the latest RC, updated .10 VPs and all that good stuff. As far as I can tell, I have the correct options checked in the launcher.

I thought that everything was up and running as good as it could possibly look. Then I watched a little of the "let's suffer/play" video that Lucika is doing, and noticed that his missile trails looked nothing like mine, but much better.

Here's what mine look like, all bitmappy. And the debug log.

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========================================================================== DEBUG SPEW: No debug_filter.cfg found, so only general, error, and warning categories can be shown and no debug_filter.cfg info will be saved. ========================================================================== FreeSpace version: 3.6.12 Passed cmdline options: -spec_exp 15 -ogl_spec 20 -spec_static 1.5 -spec_point 1.2 -spec_tube 1.5 -ambient_factor 35 -env -mipmap -missile_lighting -glow -spec -normal -3dshockwave -3dwarp -ship_choice_3d -warp_flash -snd_preload -mod mediavps Building file index... Found root pack 'I:\Freespace2Open\mediavps\3610_Patch.vp' with a checksum of 0x07e72699 Found root pack 'I:\Freespace2Open\mediavps\MV_Advanced.vp' with a checksum of 0xd06bf123 Found root pack 'I:\Freespace2Open\mediavps\MV_Assets.vp' with a checksum of 0xc9e372bb Found root pack 'I:\Freespace2Open\mediavps\MV_Core.vp' with a checksum of 0x0dc7bb8f Found root pack 'I:\Freespace2Open\mediavps\MV_Effects.vp' with a checksum of 0xa3141c30 Found root pack 'I:\Freespace2Open\mediavps\MV_Music.vp' with a checksum of 0x4dbbbe96 Found root pack 'I:\Freespace2Open\FS2OGGcutscenepack.vp' with a checksum of 0x84396e99 Found root pack 'I:\Freespace2Open\multi-mission-pack.vp' with a checksum of 0x377695e0 Found root pack 'I:\Freespace2Open\multi-voice-pack.vp' with a checksum of 0xd50e7442 Found root pack 'I:\Freespace2Open\root_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xce10d76c Found root pack 'I:\Freespace2Open\smarty_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xddeb3b1e Found root pack 'I:\Freespace2Open\sparky_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x164fe65a Found root pack 'I:\Freespace2Open\sparky_hi_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xa11d56f1 Found root pack 'I:\Freespace2Open\stu_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xd77da83a Found root pack 'I:\Freespace2Open\tango1_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x4c25221e Found root pack 'I:\Freespace2Open\tango2_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x86920b82 Found root pack 'I:\Freespace2Open\tango3_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x705e8d71 Found root pack 'I:\Freespace2Open\warble_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xd85c305d Searching root 'I:\Freespace2Open\mediavps\' ... 4 files Searching root pack 'I:\Freespace2Open\mediavps\3610_Patch.vp' ... 180 files Searching root pack 'I:\Freespace2Open\mediavps\MV_Advanced.vp' ... 2868 files Searching root pack 'I:\Freespace2Open\mediavps\MV_Assets.vp' ... 1810 files Searching root pack 'I:\Freespace2Open\mediavps\MV_Core.vp' ... 146 files Searching root pack 'I:\Freespace2Open\mediavps\MV_Effects.vp' ... 1046 files Searching root pack 'I:\Freespace2Open\mediavps\MV_Music.vp' ... 32 files Searching root 'I:\Freespace2Open\' ... 115 files Searching root pack 'I:\Freespace2Open\FS2OGGcutscenepack.vp' ... 10 files Searching root pack 'I:\Freespace2Open\multi-mission-pack.vp' ... 110 files Searching root pack 'I:\Freespace2Open\multi-voice-pack.vp' ... 307 files Searching root pack 'I:\Freespace2Open\root_fs2.vp' ... 157 files Searching root pack 'I:\Freespace2Open\smarty_fs2.vp' ... 10 files Searching root pack 'I:\Freespace2Open\sparky_fs2.vp' ... 3027 files Searching root pack 'I:\Freespace2Open\sparky_hi_fs2.vp' ... 1337 files Searching root pack 'I:\Freespace2Open\stu_fs2.vp' ... 2355 files Searching root pack 'I:\Freespace2Open\tango1_fs2.vp' ... 32 files Searching root pack 'I:\Freespace2Open\tango2_fs2.vp' ... 15 files Searching root pack 'I:\Freespace2Open\tango3_fs2.vp' ... 10 files Searching root pack 'I:\Freespace2Open\warble_fs2.vp' ... 52 files Searching root 'j:\' ... 0 files Found 21 roots and 13623 files. AutoLang: Language auto-detection successful... Setting language to English TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_strings-lcl.tbm' ... Initializing OpenAL... Using 'Generic Software' as OpenAL sound device... OpenAL Vendor : Creative Labs Inc. OpenAL Renderer : Software OpenAL Version : 1.1 ... OpenAL successfully initialized! Initializing OpenGL graphics device at 1680x1050 with 32-bit color... Initializing WGL... Requested WGL Video values = R: 8, G: 8, B: 8, depth: 32, double-buffer: 1 Actual WGL Video values = R: 8, G: 8, B: 8, depth: 32, double-buffer: 1 OpenGL Vendor : NVIDIA Corporation OpenGL Renderer : GeForce 9800 GTX/9800 GTX+/PCI/SSE2 OpenGL Version : 3.2.0 Using extension "GL_EXT_fog_coord". Using extension "GL_ARB_multitexture". Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_env_add". Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_compression". Using extension "GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc". Using extension "GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic". Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_env_combine". Using extension "GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array". Using extension "GL_EXT_draw_range_elements". Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat". Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two". Using extension "GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object". Using extension "GL_ARB_pixel_buffer_object". Using extension "GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap". Using extension "GL_EXT_framebuffer_object". Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_rectangle". Using extension "GL_EXT_bgra". Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_cube_map". Using extension "GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias". Using extension "GL_ARB_point_sprite". Using extension "GL_ARB_shading_language_100". Using extension "GL_ARB_shader_objects". Using extension "GL_ARB_vertex_shader". Using extension "GL_ARB_fragment_shader". Using extension "GL_NV_vertex_program3". Found special extension function "wglSwapIntervalEXT". Initializing Shaders Manager... Loading and compiling main shaders... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (null-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (null-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (b-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (b-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (b-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (bg-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (l-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lb-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (l-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lbg-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (l-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lbgs-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (l-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lbs-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (le-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lbgse-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (le-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lbse-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (ln-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lbgn-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (ln-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lbgsn-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (ln-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lbn-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (ln-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lbsn-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (lne-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lbgsne-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (lne-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lbsne-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (lf-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lfb-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (lf-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lfbg-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (lf-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lfbgs-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (lf-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lfbs-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (lfe-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lfbgse-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (lfe-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lfbse-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (lfn-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lfbgn-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (lfn-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lfbgsn-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (lfn-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lfbn-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (lfn-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lfbsn-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (lfne-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lfbgsne-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (lfne-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lfbsne-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (l-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (null-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (l-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lg-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (l-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lgs-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (l-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (ls-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (le-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lgse-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (le-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lse-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (ln-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lgn-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (ln-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lgsn-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (ln-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (ln-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (ln-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lsn-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (lne-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lgsne-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (lne-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lsne-f.sdr) ... Shaders Manager initialized. Max texture units: 4 (32) Max elements vertices: 1048576 Max elements indices: 1048576 Max texture size: 8192x8192 Can use compressed textures: YES Texture compression available: YES Using trilinear texture filter. Using GLSL for model rendering. Shader Version: 1.50 NVIDIA via Cg compiler ... OpenGL init is complete! Size of bitmap info = 760 KB Size of bitmap extra info = 52 bytes ANI cursorweb with size 24x24 (25.0% wasted) GRAPHICS: Initializing default colors... SCRIPTING: Beginning initialization sequence... SCRIPTING: Beginning Lua initialization... LUA: Opening LUA state... LUA: Initializing base Lua libraries... LUA: Beginning ADE initialization ADE: Initializing enumeration constants... ADE: Assigning Lua session... SCRIPTING: Beginning main hook parse sequence.... Wokka! Error opening file (scripting.tbl)! TABLES: Unable to parse 'scripting.tbl'! Error code = 5. TBM => Starting parse of 'flak-sct.tbm' ... TBM => Starting parse of 'velindc-sct.tbm' ... SCRIPTING: Inititialization complete. SCRIPTING: Splash screen overrides checked SCRIPTING: Splash hook has been run SCRIPTING: Splash screen conditional hook has been run Using high memory settings... Wokka! Error opening file (interface.tbl)! WMCGUI: Unable to parse 'interface.tbl'! Error code = 5. TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_effects-sdf.tbm' ... TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_adveffects-sdf.tbm' ... ANI 2_radar1 with size 209x170 (33.6% wasted) Windows reported 16 joysticks, we found 1 Current soundtrack set to -1 in event_music_reset_choices TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_music-mus.tbm' ... TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_advmuzzle-mfl.tbm' ... Wokka! Error opening file (armor.tbl)! TABLES: Unable to parse 'armor.tbl'! Error code = 5. TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_effects-wxp.tbm' ... TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_adveffects-wxp.tbm' ... BMPMAN: Found EFF (exp20.eff) with 64 frames at 30 fps. BMPMAN: Found EFF (ExpMissileHit1.eff) with 44 frames at 30 fps. BMPMAN: Found EFF (exp05.eff) with 47 frames at 20 fps. BMPMAN: Found EFF (exp06.eff) with 48 frames at 20 fps. BMPMAN: Found EFF (exp04.eff) with 60 frames at 20 fps. BMPMAN: Found EFF (Maxim_Impact.eff) with 23 frames at 30 fps. ANI Lamprey_Impact with size 80x80 (37.5% wasted) BMPMAN: Found EFF (Gmuzzle.eff) with 5 frames at 30 fps. BMPMAN: Found EFF (PWmuzzle.eff) with 4 frames at 30 fps. BMPMAN: Found EFF (Rmuzzle.eff) with 4 frames at 30 fps. BMPMAN: Found EFF (Bmuzzle.eff) with 5 frames at 30 fps. TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_effects-wep.tbm' ... TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_tech-wep.tbm' ... TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_models-wep.tbm' ... TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_adveffects-wep.tbm' ... TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_trails-shp.tbm' ... TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_dragon-shp.tbm' ... TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_density-shp.tbm' ... TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_models-shp.tbm' ... TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_adveffects-shp.tbm' ... TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_tech-shp.tbm' ... TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_escort-hdg.tbm' ... TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_effects-str.tbm' ... loading animated cursor "cursor" ANI cursor with size 24x24 (25.0% wasted) Ships.tbl is : VALID Weapons.tbl is : VALID cfile_init() took 2428 TrackIR Init Failed - 1 Got event GS_EVENT_GAME_INIT (49) in state NOT A VALID STATE (0) ANI cursor.ani with size 24x24 (25.0% wasted) Got event GS_EVENT_MAIN_MENU (0) in state GS_STATE_INITIAL_PLAYER_SELECT (37) Someone passed an extension to bm_load for file 'ravens.pcx' ANI 2_mainwalk.ani with size 209x477 (6.8% wasted) ANI 2_mainflyby.ani with size 509x189 (26.2% wasted) ANI 2_maincrane.ani with size 192x116 (9.4% wasted) ANI 2_mainexit.ani with size 319x174 (32.0% wasted) ANI 2_mainbarracks.ani with size 273x158 (38.3% wasted) ANI 2_mainreadyroom.ani with size 231x145 (43.4% wasted) ANI 2_maintechroom.ani with size 69x119 (7.0% wasted) ANI 2_mainoptions.ani with size 337x206 (19.5% wasted) ANI 2_maincampaign.ani with size 308x190 (25.8% wasted) Got event GS_EVENT_TECH_MENU (11) in state GS_STATE_MAIN_MENU (1) Techroom successfully initialized, now changing tab... Loading model 'fighter01.pof' IBX: Found a good IBX/TSB to read for 'fighter01.pof'. IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0x3503498e, IBX checksum: 0x4024384c -- "fighter01.pof" Frame 0 too long!!: frametime = 0.594 (0.594) Got event GS_EVENT_SIMULATOR_ROOM (58) in state GS_STATE_TECH_MENU (7) Freeing all existing models... Frame 0 too long!!: frametime = 0.937 (0.937) Got event GS_EVENT_START_GAME (1) in state GS_STATE_SIMULATOR_ROOM (20) =================== STARTING LEVEL LOAD ================== ANI 2_Loading with size 824x43 (32.8% wasted) ANI 2_Loading.ani with size 824x43 (32.8% wasted) Starting model page in... Beginning level bitmap paging... BMPMAN: Found EFF (particleexp01.eff) with 10 frames at 8 fps. BMPMAN: Found EFF (particlesmoke01.eff) with 88 frames at 30 fps. BMPMAN: Found EFF (particlesmoke02.eff) with 39 frames at 24 fps. TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_fireball-fbl.tbm' ... TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_adveffects-fbl.tbm' ... BMPMAN: Found EFF (WarpMap01.eff) with 30 frames at 30 fps. BMPMAN: Found EFF (WarpMap02.eff) with 30 frames at 30 fps. BMPMAN: Found EFF (rock_exp.eff) with 55 frames at 30 fps. Loading warp model Loading model 'warp.pof' IBX: Found a good IBX/TSB to read for 'warp.pof'. IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0xbf802ad0, IBX checksum: 0x3888b26c -- "warp.pof" 600 BMPMAN: Found EFF (shieldhit01a.eff) with 23 frames at 21 fps. BMPMAN: Found EFF (shieldhit02a.eff) with 45 frames at 30 fps. BMPMAN: Found EFF (shieldhit03a.eff) with 22 frames at 30 fps. SHOCKWAVE => Loading default shockwave model... Loading model 'shockwave.pof' IBX: Found a good IBX/TSB to read for 'shockwave.pof'. IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0xd8be5fd9, IBX checksum: 0x208fb934 -- "shockwave.pof" BMPMAN: Found EFF (shockwave3d-glow.eff) with 159 frames at 24 fps. Model shockwave.pof has a null moment of inertia! (This is only a problem if the model is a ship.) SHOCKWAVE => Default model load: SUCCEEDED!! MISSION LOAD: 'Gs-Shi' WARNING: "Weapon type "TAG-C" found in loadout of mission file. This class is not marked as a player allowed weapon...skipping" at parselo.cpp:2368 Starting mission message count : 205 Ending mission message count : 208 Current soundtrack set to -1 in event_music_reset_choices Loading model 'fighter01.pof' IBX: Found a good IBX/TSB to read for 'fighter01.pof'. IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0x3503498e, IBX checksum: 0x4024384c -- "fighter01.pof" Loading model 'fighter11.pof' IBX: Found a good IBX/TSB to read for 'fighter11.pof'. IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0x4809458e, IBX checksum: 0xe92e2c8b -- "fighter11.pof" BMPMAN: Found EFF (fighter11-01-glow.eff) with 37 frames at 25 fps. Loading model 'fighter10.pof' IBX: Found a good IBX/TSB to read for 'fighter10.pof'. IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0xd2a0181f, IBX checksum: 0x599a6228 -- "fighter10.pof" BMPMAN: Found EFF (fighter10-01-glow.eff) with 37 frames at 25 fps. Loading model 'fighter2s-03.pof' IBX: Found a good IBX/TSB to read for 'fighter2s-03.pof'. IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0x26d0ea87, IBX checksum: 0xdf758ddf -- "fighter2s-03.pof" BMPMAN: Found EFF (fighter2s-03-glow.eff) with 40 frames at 26 fps. Loading model 'fighter2s-01.pof' IBX: Found a good IBX/TSB to read for 'fighter2s-01.pof'. IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0xdfa60ff6, IBX checksum: 0x1cc6386a -- "fighter2s-01.pof" BMPMAN: Found EFF (fighter2s-01-glow.eff) with 37 frames at 25 fps. Loading model 'fighter2s-02.pof' IBX: Found a good IBX/TSB to read for 'fighter2s-02.pof'. IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0x85ec93bc, IBX checksum: 0xb90433ea -- "fighter2s-02.pof" BMPMAN: Found EFF (fighter2s-02-glow.eff) with 37 frames at 25 fps. Loading model 'cruiser03x.pof' IBX: Found a good IBX/TSB to read for 'cruiser03x.pof'. IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0x284ccdd4, IBX checksum: 0x993d2d5a -- "cruiser03x.pof" BMPMAN: Found EFF (cruiser03-03-glow.eff) with 37 frames at 20 fps. BMPMAN: Found EFF (cruiser03x-01-glow.eff) with 37 frames at 15 fps. Loading model 'cruiser2s-01.pof' IBX: Found a good IBX/TSB to read for 'cruiser2s-01.pof'. IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0x96a2dce5, IBX checksum: 0x68cccb53 -- "cruiser2s-01.pof" BMPMAN: Found EFF (cruistiles2-glow.eff) with 50 frames at 25 fps. BMPMAN: Found EFF (cruistiles4-glow.eff) with 50 frames at 25 fps. BMPMAN: Found EFF (cruistiles5-glow.eff) with 37 frames at 15 fps. Potential problem found: Unrecognized subsystem type 'reactor', believed to be in ship cruiser2s-01.pof Allocating space for at least 5 new ship subsystems ... a total of 200 is now available (5 in-use). OpenGL: Created 512x512 FBO! ANI 2_lock1 with size 56x53 (17.2% wasted) ANI 2_lockspin with size 100x100 (21.9% wasted) ANI 2_lead1 with size 26x26 (18.8% wasted) ANI 2_energy2 with size 86x96 (25.0% wasted) ANI toggle1 with size 57x20 (37.5% wasted) ANI weapons1 with size 126x20 (37.5% wasted) ANI weapons1_b with size 150x20 (37.5% wasted) ANI 2_toparc1 with size 252x60 (6.3% wasted) ANI 2_toparc2 with size 35x24 (25.0% wasted) ANI 2_toparc3 with size 41x29 (9.4% wasted) ANI 2_leftarc with size 103x252 (1.6% wasted) ANI 2_rightarc1 with size 103x252 (1.6% wasted) ANI 2_reticle1 with size 40x24 (25.0% wasted) ANI targhit1 with size 31x21 (34.4% wasted) ANI energy1 with size 12x41 (35.9% wasted) ANI targetview1 with size 137x156 (39.1% wasted) ANI targetview2 with size 4x96 (25.0% wasted) ANI targetview3 with size 7x20 (37.5% wasted) ANI damage1 with size 148x25 (21.9% wasted) ANI support1 with size 108x24 (25.0% wasted) ANI objective1 with size 149x21 (34.4% wasted) ANI wingman1 with size 71x53 (17.2% wasted) ANI wingman2 with size 35x53 (17.2% wasted) ANI wingman3 with size 14x53 (17.2% wasted) ANI netlag1 with size 29x30 (6.3% wasted) ANI head1 with size 164x132 (48.4% wasted) ANI time1 with size 47x23 (28.1% wasted) ANI debris01 with size 51x38 (40.6% wasted) ANI debris02 with size 26x19 (40.6% wasted) ANI debris04 with size 36x27 (15.6% wasted) =================== STARTING LEVEL DATA LOAD ================== ANI 2_Loading.ani with size 824x43 (32.8% wasted) Loading model 'support2t-01.pof' IBX: Found a good IBX/TSB to read for 'support2t-01.pof'. IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0x6512c7b6, IBX checksum: 0xd4a3527c -- "support2t-01.pof" Loading model 'support2v-01.pof' IBX: Found a good IBX/TSB to read for 'support2v-01.pof'. IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0x0abd41b4, IBX checksum: 0x3aadce53 -- "support2v-01.pof" Allocating space for at least 232 new ship subsystems ... a total of 400 is now available (20 in-use). About to page in ships! ANI shield-f01 with size 112x93 (27.3% wasted) ANI shield-f10 with size 112x93 (27.3% wasted) ANI shield-f11 with size 112x93 (27.3% wasted) ANI shieldfs-01 with size 112x93 (27.3% wasted) ANI shieldfs-02 with size 112x93 (27.3% wasted) ANI shieldfs-03 with size 112x93 (27.3% wasted) BMPMAN: Found EFF (Subach_AniBitmap.eff) with 6 frames at 5 fps. BMPMAN: Found EFF (PrometheusR_AniBitmap.eff) with 12 frames at 5 fps. BMPMAN: Found EFF (Prometheus_AniBitmap.eff) with 12 frames at 5 fps. BMPMAN: Found EFF (Kayser_AniBitmap.eff) with 4 frames at 5 fps. ANI Kayser_Particle with size 80x80 (37.5% wasted) ANI Lamprey_Particle with size 92x86 (32.8% wasted) BMPMAN: Found EFF (particle_red.eff) with 11 frames at 22 fps. BMPMAN: Found EFF (SbeamAglow.eff) with 24 frames at 60 fps. BMPMAN: Found EFF (SbeamAC.eff) with 30 frames at 40 fps. Loading model 'rockeye.pof' IBX: Found a good IBX/TSB to read for 'rockeye.pof'. IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0x25ff4c7f, IBX checksum: 0x541aef89 -- "rockeye.pof" Loading model 'Tempest.pof' IBX: Found a good IBX/TSB to read for 'Tempest.pof'. IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0xd02a81ee, IBX checksum: 0xf6422721 -- "Tempest.pof" Loading model 'NewHornet.pof' IBX: Found a good IBX/TSB to read for 'NewHornet.pof'. IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0x98d35b7d, IBX checksum: 0xe4ac391c -- "NewHornet.pof" Loading model 'bombardier.pof' IBX: Found a good IBX/TSB to read for 'bombardier.pof'. IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0x03e1b208, IBX checksum: 0x5def0a77 -- "bombardier.pof" Loading model 'crossbow.pof' IBX: Found a good IBX/TSB to read for 'crossbow.pof'. IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0x586f384b, IBX checksum: 0xb14be0e0 -- "crossbow.pof" No subsystems found for model "crossbow.pof". Loading model 'trebuchet.pof' IBX: Found a good IBX/TSB to read for 'trebuchet.pof'. IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0x688e15f5, IBX checksum: 0xf6c9668d -- "trebuchet.pof" Loading model 'taga.pof' IBX: Found a good IBX/TSB to read for 'taga.pof'. IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0x45b2275e, IBX checksum: 0x3f9f6258 -- "taga.pof" Loading model 'tagb.pof' IBX: Found a good IBX/TSB to read for 'tagb.pof'. IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0x332af7cb, IBX checksum: 0x14d7a019 -- "tagb.pof" Loading model 'piranha.pof' IBX: Found a good IBX/TSB to read for 'piranha.pof'. IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0x0ba39db4, IBX checksum: 0x333b32e2 -- "piranha.pof" Loading model 'stilettoII.pof' IBX: Found a good IBX/TSB to read for 'stilettoII.pof'. IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0x6f4352cf, IBX checksum: 0xc0f267c6 -- "stilettoII.pof" Loading model 'infyrno.pof' IBX: Found a good IBX/TSB to read for 'infyrno.pof'. IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0xaef706c7, IBX checksum: 0x9b2555c2 -- "infyrno.pof" Loading model 'belial.pof' IBX: Found a good IBX/TSB to read for 'belial.pof'. IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0xb8ba8933, IBX checksum: 0x70b7a630 -- "belial.pof" BMPMAN: Found EFF (shockwave01.eff) with 94 frames at 60 fps. Loading model 'helios.pof' IBX: Found a good IBX/TSB to read for 'helios.pof'. IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0xc75db1da, IBX checksum: 0xd9214c8a -- "helios.pof" Loading model 'EMPulse2.pof' IBX: Found a good IBX/TSB to read for 'EMPulse2.pof'. IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0x5269eb44, IBX checksum: 0xb7bd5b3a -- "EMPulse2.pof" Loading model 'cmeasure01.pof' IBX: Found a good IBX/TSB to read for 'cmeasure01.pof'. IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0x39d1d2bf, IBX checksum: 0x23737dab -- "cmeasure01.pof" Loading model 'S_Rockeye.pof' IBX: Found a good IBX/TSB to read for 'S_Rockeye.pof'. IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0xa2927569, IBX checksum: 0xcd80e6f0 -- "S_Rockeye.pof" BMPMAN: Found EFF (smissile1-glow.eff) with 20 frames at 20 fps. Loading model 'S_Hornet.pof' IBX: Found a good IBX/TSB to read for 'S_Hornet.pof'. IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0xc71eb98d, IBX checksum: 0x209bce27 -- "S_Hornet.pof" Loading model 'S_Harpoon.pof' IBX: Found a good IBX/TSB to read for 'S_Harpoon.pof'. IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0xfbbc719d, IBX checksum: 0xdad1917b -- "S_Harpoon.pof" Loading model 'S_Trebuchet.pof' IBX: Found a good IBX/TSB to read for 'S_Trebuchet.pof'. IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0x843f2910, IBX checksum: 0x3d8ebd88 -- "S_Trebuchet.pof" Loading model 'ShivanCluster.pof' IBX: Found a good IBX/TSB to read for 'ShivanCluster.pof'. IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0x8307955d, IBX checksum: 0x1c84c70c -- "ShivanCluster.pof" Loading model 'hornet.pof' IBX: Found a good IBX/TSB to read for 'hornet.pof'. IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0x84f2378d, IBX checksum: 0x1203869f -- "hornet.pof" Loading model 'mx-50.pof' IBX: Found a good IBX/TSB to read for 'mx-50.pof'. IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0x80ed0ef6, IBX checksum: 0x79a2a4ec -- "mx-50.pof" Loading model 'debris01.pof' IBX: Found a good IBX/TSB to read for 'debris01.pof'. IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0x974f214b, IBX checksum: 0x368eb490 -- "debris01.pof" Loading model 'debris02.pof' IBX: Found a good IBX/TSB to read for 'debris02.pof'. IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0x8e0eed50, IBX checksum: 0x7b2a747e -- "debris02.pof" BMPMAN: Found EFF (Cmuzzle.eff) with 4 frames at 30 fps. Paging in mission messages Stopping model page in... ANI 2_radar1.ani with size 209x170 (33.6% wasted) ANI Lamprey_Impact.ani with size 80x80 (37.5% wasted) ANI 2_Loading.ani with size 824x43 (32.8% wasted) ANI 2_lock1.ani with size 56x53 (17.2% wasted) ANI 2_lead1.ani with size 26x26 (18.8% wasted) ANI 2_energy2.ani with size 86x96 (25.0% wasted) ANI toggle1.ani with size 57x20 (37.5% wasted) ANI weapons1.ani with size 126x20 (37.5% wasted) ANI 2_toparc1.ani with size 252x60 (6.3% wasted) ANI 2_toparc2.ani with size 35x24 (25.0% wasted) ANI 2_toparc3.ani with size 41x29 (9.4% wasted) ANI 2_leftarc.ani with size 103x252 (1.6% wasted) ANI 2_rightarc1.ani with size 103x252 (1.6% wasted) ANI 2_reticle1.ani with size 40x24 (25.0% wasted) ANI targhit1.ani with size 31x21 (34.4% wasted) ANI energy1.ani with size 12x41 (35.9% wasted) ANI targetview1.ani with size 137x156 (39.1% wasted) ANI targetview2.ani with size 4x96 (25.0% wasted) ANI targetview3.ani with size 7x20 (37.5% wasted) ANI damage1.ani with size 148x25 (21.9% wasted) ANI support1.ani with size 108x24 (25.0% wasted) ANI objective1.ani with size 149x21 (34.4% wasted) ANI wingman1.ani with size 71x53 (17.2% wasted) ANI wingman2.ani with size 35x53 (17.2% wasted) ANI wingman3.ani with size 14x53 (17.2% wasted) ANI netlag1.ani with size 29x30 (6.3% wasted) ANI head1.ani with size 164x132 (48.4% wasted) ANI time1.ani with size 47x23 (28.1% wasted) ANI debris01.ani with size 51x38 (40.6% wasted) ANI debris02.ani with size 26x19 (40.6% wasted) ANI debris04.ani with size 36x27 (15.6% wasted) ANI shield-f01.ani with size 112x93 (27.3% wasted) ANI shield-f10.ani with size 112x93 (27.3% wasted) ANI shield-f11.ani with size 112x93 (27.3% wasted) ANI shieldfs-01.ani with size 112x93 (27.3% wasted) ANI shieldfs-02.ani with size 112x93 (27.3% wasted) ANI shieldfs-03.ani with size 112x93 (27.3% wasted) ANI Kayser_Particle.ani with size 80x80 (37.5% wasted) ANI Lamprey_Particle.ani with size 92x86 (32.8% wasted) User bitmap 'TMP308x190+16' User bitmap 'TMP337x206+16' User bitmap 'TMP69x119+16' User bitmap 'TMP231x145+16' User bitmap 'TMP273x158+16' User bitmap 'TMP319x174+16' User bitmap 'TMP192x116+16' User bitmap 'TMP509x189+16' User bitmap 'TMP209x477+16' User bitmap 'TMP256x256+8' User bitmap 'TMP256x256+8' User bitmap 'TMP128x128+8' Bmpman: 2219/4750 bitmap slots in use. Ending level bitmap paging... =================== ENDING LOAD ================ Real count = 521, Estimated count = 425 ================================================ Received post for event GS_EVENT_START_BRIEFING during state transtition. Find Allender if you are unsure if this is bad. Got event GS_EVENT_START_BRIEFING (15) in state GS_STATE_START_GAME (52) ANI 2_BriefMap with size 918x400 (21.9% wasted) ANI iconwing01 with size 32x28 (12.5% wasted) Loading model 'fighter2t-02.pof' IBX: Found a good IBX/TSB to read for 'fighter2t-02.pof'. IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0xcdb3e195, IBX checksum: 0x3176ea32 -- "fighter2t-02.pof" Loading model 'fighter2t-04.pof' IBX: Found a good IBX/TSB to read for 'fighter2t-04.pof'. IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0xe611ce17, IBX checksum: 0x5dac9e8c -- "fighter2t-04.pof" Loading model 'fighter13.pof' IBX: Found a good IBX/TSB to read for 'fighter13.pof'. IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0x13fad0b4, IBX checksum: 0x793319e8 -- "fighter13.pof" Loading model 'fighter2t-03.pof' IBX: Found a good IBX/TSB to read for 'fighter2t-03.pof'. IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0xce1df975, IBX checksum: 0x37c93eb1 -- "fighter2t-03.pof" Loading model 'fighter2t-05.pof' IBX: Found a good IBX/TSB to read for 'fighter2t-05.pof'. IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0xc8b2f868, IBX checksum: 0x3dfad880 -- "fighter2t-05.pof" Loading model 'Bomber2T-03.pof' IBX: Found a good IBX/TSB to read for 'Bomber2T-03.pof'. IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0xf62d5e93, IBX checksum: 0x16ce7cf1 -- "Bomber2T-03.pof" Loading model 'bomber04.pof' IBX: Found a good IBX/TSB to read for 'bomber04.pof'. IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0x4fac00b7, IBX checksum: 0x7ae3cbd7 -- "bomber04.pof" Loading model 'bomber05.pof' IBX: Found a good IBX/TSB to read for 'bomber05.pof'. IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0x1e5f9164, IBX checksum: 0x5105ed07 -- "bomber05.pof" Loading model 'bomber09.pof' IBX: Found a good IBX/TSB to read for 'bomber09.pof'. IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0x053ba5a8, IBX checksum: 0xd1923c7f -- "bomber09.pof" Loading model 'bomber2t-01.pof' IBX: Found a good IBX/TSB to read for 'bomber2t-01.pof'. IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0xbbfa68bc, IBX checksum: 0x11e25089 -- "bomber2t-01.pof" ANI iconSD4 with size 56x24 (25.0% wasted) ANI iconScalpel with size 56x24 (25.0% wasted) ANI iconflail with size 56x24 (25.0% wasted) ANI iconPromR with size 56x24 (25.0% wasted) ANI iconPromS with size 56x24 (25.0% wasted) ANI iconNewton with size 56x24 (25.0% wasted) ANI iconKayser with size 56x24 (25.0% wasted) ANI iconCirce with size 56x24 (25.0% wasted) ANI iconLich with size 56x24 (25.0% wasted) ANI iconMX-64 with size 56x24 (25.0% wasted) ANI iconTempest with size 56x24 (25.0% wasted) ANI iconHornet with size 56x24 (25.0% wasted) ANI iconBombardier with size 56x24 (25.0% wasted) ANI iconCrossbow with size 56x24 (25.0% wasted) ANI iconTrebuchet with size 56x24 (25.0% wasted) ANI iconTagA with size 56x24 (25.0% wasted) ANI iconTagB with size 56x24 (25.0% wasted) ANI iconPiranha with size 56x24 (25.0% wasted) ANI iconStilettoII with size 56x24 (25.0% wasted) ANI iconInfyrno with size 56x24 (25.0% wasted) ANI iconbelial with size 56x24 (25.0% wasted) ANI iconHelios with size 56x24 (25.0% wasted) ANI iconEMPulse with size 56x24 (25.0% wasted) ANI icont-fightW with size 51x54 (15.6% wasted) ANI FadeiconT-FighterW with size 51x54 (15.6% wasted) ANI FadeiconT-FighterW.ani with size 51x54 (15.6% wasted) Frame 0 too long!!: frametime = 26.275 (26.275) ANI icont-fightW.ani with size 51x54 (15.6% wasted) Got event GS_EVENT_SHIP_SELECTION (13) in state GS_STATE_BRIEFING (10) Got event GS_EVENT_WEAPON_SELECTION (21) in state GS_STATE_SHIP_SELECT (11) ANI iconSD4.ani with size 56x24 (25.0% wasted) ANI iconScalpel.ani with size 56x24 (25.0% wasted) ANI iconflail.ani with size 56x24 (25.0% wasted) ANI iconPromR.ani with size 56x24 (25.0% wasted) ANI iconMX-64.ani with size 56x24 (25.0% wasted) ANI iconTempest.ani with size 56x24 (25.0% wasted) ANI iconHornet.ani with size 56x24 (25.0% wasted) ANI iconBombardier.ani with size 56x24 (25.0% wasted) ANI iconTrebuchet.ani with size 56x24 (25.0% wasted) ANI 2_SD4.ani with size 332x304 (40.6% wasted) Got event GS_EVENT_ENTER_GAME (2) in state GS_STATE_WEAPON_SELECT (16) Entering game at time = 49.785 ANI shieldft-02 with size 112x93 (27.3% wasted) ANI shieldft-02.ani with size 112x93 (27.3% wasted) ANI Head-TP1a.ani with size 160x120 (6.3% wasted) Got event GS_EVENT_END_GAME (4) in state GS_STATE_GAME_PLAY (2) Unloading in mission messages Got event GS_EVENT_QUIT_GAME (5) in state GS_STATE_MAIN_MENU (1) Freeing all existing models... ... Log closed, Sun Apr 11 23:43:26 2010
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Title: Re: Missile trails issue
Post by: Commander Zane on April 12, 2010, 06:53:44 am: Actually yours are normal, I just looked at his videos and his missile trails are grey, so he's the one with a problem, not you.

...You actually think the monochrome grey looks better?
Title: Re: Missile trails issue
Post by: Droid803 on April 12, 2010, 05:39:32 pm: The grey trails made it impossible to tell most missiles apart, so they kinda sucked.
Title: Re: Missile trails issue
Post by: Snail on April 12, 2010, 05:40:48 pm: Weren't they placeholders?
Title: Re: Missile trails issue
Post by: sigtau on April 12, 2010, 08:47:21 pm: I think it's time we worked on some new missile trails.
Title: Re: Missile trails issue
Post by: Commander Zane on April 12, 2010, 09:02:17 pm: I think missile models should be prioritized over trails.
Title: Re: Missile trails issue
Post by: sigtau on April 12, 2010, 09:44:10 pm: Modelers and photoshoppers can be two different parties altogether. Multitasking.
Title: Re: Missile trails issue
Post by: Thaeris on April 12, 2010, 10:17:03 pm: I actually like the grey tails - they're more realistic in a way. I have them due having the 3.6.10 MediaVPs before they were again updated - given some of the changes made with the "update," I'm quite happy with my current assets.
Title: Re: Missile trails issue
Post by: Maverick on April 12, 2010, 11:05:38 pm: Quote from: Commander Zane on April 12, 2010, 09:02:17 pm
I think missile models should be prioritized over trails.

Agreed, tired of looking at that terrible lo-res Tornadoes each time i pick them
Title: Re: Missile trails issue
Post by: Kolgena on April 12, 2010, 11:06:10 pm: Quote from: Commander Zane on April 12, 2010, 09:02:17 pm
I think missile models should be prioritized over trails.

D'accord. Our rockeyes need more than 20 polies >.>
Title: Re: Missile trails issue
Post by: Scourge of Ages on April 13, 2010, 12:58:57 am: Well, that makes me feel better. Though it's hard to tell, Lucika's looked a little more "effecty" and less "bitmappy." Sort of the same difference between engine glows now and engine glows in retail.
Title: Re: Missile trails issue
Post by: The E on April 13, 2010, 01:03:29 am: Quote from: Kolgena on April 12, 2010, 11:06:10 pm
D'accord. Our rockeyes need more than 20 polies >.>
Quote from: Maverick on April 12, 2010, 11:05:38 pm
Agreed, tired of looking at that terrible lo-res Tornadoes each time i pick them

No. Not really. While modern GPUs have rather generous polygon budgets, updating a model that is only on-screen for a few frames is just stupid.

That being said, updating the models displayed in the loadout screen when the "Use models for weapon selection" feature is on, that could be worthwhile.
Title: Re: Missile trails issue
Post by: Galemp on April 13, 2010, 01:04:56 am: bah, you should be using the pre-rendered interface art anyway. That's why I lobbied to have 3D Ship Selection and 3D Weapon Selection split, so you wouldn't have to look at those awful in-game models.
Title: Re: Missile trails issue
Post by: Commander Zane on April 13, 2010, 06:40:22 am: Quote from: The E on April 13, 2010, 01:03:29 am
Quote from: Kolgena on April 12, 2010, 11:06:10 pm
D'accord. Our rockeyes need more than 20 polies >.>
Quote from: Maverick on April 12, 2010, 11:05:38 pm
Agreed, tired of looking at that terrible lo-res Tornadoes each time i pick them

No. Not really. While modern GPUs have rather generous polygon budgets, updating a model that is only on-screen for a few frames is just stupid.

That being said, updating the models displayed in the loadout screen when the "Use models for weapon selection" feature is on, that could be worthwhile.
So you'd rather have high-poly missiles in the breifing room but not in-mission?
Title: Re: Missile trails issue
Post by: headdie on April 13, 2010, 07:23:49 am: Quote from: Commander Zane on April 13, 2010, 06:40:22 am
Quote from: The E on April 13, 2010, 01:03:29 am
Quote from: Kolgena on April 12, 2010, 11:06:10 pm
D'accord. Our rockeyes need more than 20 polies >.>
Quote from: Maverick on April 12, 2010, 11:05:38 pm
Agreed, tired of looking at that terrible lo-res Tornadoes each time i pick them

No. Not really. While modern GPUs have rather generous polygon budgets, updating a model that is only on-screen for a few frames is just stupid.

That being said, updating the models displayed in the loadout screen when the "Use models for weapon selection" feature is on, that could be worthwhile.
So you'd rather have high-poly missiles in the breifing room but not in-mission?

how much time do you spend actually looking at the missile model in mission??? i side with The E in that significant detail increases in mission on missiles would have little visual benefit. aside from something like a torpedo or trebuchet they are so small and fast that it quickly becomes pointless because you cant see the detail anyway due to distance or the trail, secondly apart from the missiles i have listed you don't normally have time to watch the missile model because you are in the middle of a dogfight and need to be using that concentration on where the enemy is.

now compared to the ship view in the techroom the missile models look terrible and would benefit from someone making techroom only views
Title: Re: Missile trails issue
Post by: Commander Zane on April 13, 2010, 07:35:48 am: I'm actually quite adept at spotting minute details even in the middle of intense dogfights without detriment to my flying. Besides, it might as well be done since others took the time to even make high-poly missiles in-mission in the first place, and even go as far as making secondaries for the Shivans.
Title: Re: Missile trails issue
Post by: MatthTheGeek on April 13, 2010, 08:08:13 am: It's not really minute detail here, but rather less-than-a-second detail... but yeah. You can believe me when I say higher-poly missiles won't make our FPS drop anyway, it's the man with an Intel Integrated 965 speaking here :)
Title: Re: Missile trails issue
Post by: Commander Zane on April 13, 2010, 08:20:01 am: If that's supposed to be a time joke, then :lol:.

But nonetheless, it is a minute detail, missiles like Tempests, Hornets, and Tornadoes (Which the former two are already high-poly) are very small, minute (Put emphasis on the 'i') is a term for small, perhaps you know that, the lesson is most likely unnecessary.

Plus I'm the type to make screenshots of ships as they're firing missiles, I have an Ares firing a Tornado salvo from a very close view, it's completely ruined by the Retail model of the missiles, it would be sheer awesomeness if they were high-poly. For this reason good looking missiles in-mission are hardly a waste.
Title: Re: Missile trails issue
Post by: Mongoose on April 13, 2010, 01:49:20 pm: I was going to say, don't several missiles already have new in-game models, with the rest eventually in the works? This post (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=53969.msg1091586#msg1091586) seems to make the entire argument moot. :p
Title: Re: Missile trails issue
Post by: Commander Zane on April 13, 2010, 02:07:36 pm: The Tempest has a high-poly model in-mission, not sure why FX is red for it.
Title: Re: Missile trails issue
Post by: Mongoose on April 13, 2010, 02:20:25 pm: Probably because that post hasn't been updated for a while.
Title: Re: Missile trails issue
Post by: Kolgena on April 14, 2010, 10:12:05 am: If I could, I'd take a hornet and reskin it green and yellow to sub in for the tornado.

But I'm illiterate, so I can't :(
Title: Re: Missile trails issue
Post by: Commander Zane on April 14, 2010, 10:39:44 am: It looks like the HTL missiles first started seeing use five years ago, I'm guessing from what I've seen looking around normal maps on FreeSpace are about five, six years old as well, and the Ursa, which was HTLed five years ago as well, still does not have normal maps.

Reskinning the Hornet would probably be a decent place holder for the time being...shouldn't be too difficult, I'll give it a try but I'm not expecting the real deal for some time still, it's interesting how some of the little things remain half-finished or untouched after so many years.

Edit: Actually...the only real difference is the shape of the missiles themselves (Fin number and bulk on the aft) the textures are rather the same...
On the tech .ani anyway.