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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Roanoke on April 12, 2010, 05:14:58 pm
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No doubt "old" etc but I just luv this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Dr2ZB36p9Y&feature=player_embedded
Top10 Flybys.
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Merlin FTW (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrDWYOlLA-w&feature=related)
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So how many safety regs were shattered during those clips? :p
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you think the dude standing on the runway shat himself?
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Yes, the one holding the camera!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezOmUwJz8ws&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Td8tM1Hl_w
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-JUOlPN-5g
FJ's, mo'****er. Best in the damn world. ;)
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F18s, as far as im concerned, one of the best looking jets in the world.
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Indeed, (even though the 24 newer F/A-18Fs are quite unsuited to what Australia needs, it still looks damn cool!)
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On an unrelated note, this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTOd4qrPBzw&feature=related is a lot of trucks.
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Indeed, (even though the 24 newer F/A-18Fs are quite unsuited to what Australia needs, it still looks damn cool!)
Speaking of Hornets, this might be relevant to your interests:
http://www.graphsim.com/games-fa18-oif.html
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Hm, doesn't look like the Flight Model's a point of focus in that game. :P
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???
Hornet is actually quite good. It can't quite compare with Falcon 4.0 or the like, but it is a rather viable simulator. Don't forget that this sim has been evolving since the early 90's, so there's a long history of improvment to the flight dynamics.
Operation of the weapon systems is quite comprehensive as well - the sim comes with a manual, and you'll definately need it. I don't personally own OIF, but I've had every Hornet since 1.0 up to Korea Gold - this is a good sim. Though, looking at it, you can see it's a bit dated in appearance.
*EDIT
Found you the demo:
http://download.cnet.com/F-A-18-Operation-Iraqi-Freedom-demo/3000-7544_4-10229988.html
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Ah right :)
I see, I'll try it out sometime tomorrow hopefully.
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Merlin FTW (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrDWYOlLA-w&feature=related)
I find this video a better one. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACmzdA3PE04&fmt=22)
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Meh.... Everyone's seen the small, agile, fast little buggers...
Here's some heavy metal:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Kgusd1rN6E&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVdqRSqvkIk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNVnqC0IsPk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMwm9BJYh2I&feature=related
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F18s, as far as im concerned, one of the best looking jets in the world.
I've always preferred the F-16 myself. The thing just looks fast. Plus it's louder, too. :D
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SU-37 looks at american planes with content
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we british seem to have saner pilots than america, but hey, have some british stuff:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-7zHlOi4T4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-7zHlOi4T4)
I think the real question from that video is: Why are there some F-15s in Wales?!
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we british seem to have saner pilots than america, but hey, have some british stuff:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-7zHlOi4T4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-7zHlOi4T4)
I think the real question from that video is: Why are there some F-15s in Wales?!
CAD West Mach loop is used by both its a low level training run
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Yank jets have akways operated in the UK and most of Westen Europe.
Harriers sound much better than I had expected.
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And on BBC News, somthing a little new. Again, no low fly-bys, however, some J-10's from a country thats not been in this thread yet.:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8617993.stm
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Ha.
Let's keep the counterfeit "ooh, I can rip off the F-16 and the IAI Lavi too!" crap out of the thread, plox. There are so many things I can rip into in that video, it's not even funny.
(If you haven't guessed already, I have a real chip on my shoulder about these things.)
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Ha.
Let's keep the counterfeit "ooh, I can rip off the F-16 and the IAI Lavi too!" crap out of the thread, plox. There are so many things I can rip into in that video, it's not even funny.
(If you haven't guessed already, I have a real chip on my shoulder about these things.)
Ya I was thinking the same thing... :ick:
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Ha.
Let's keep the counterfeit "ooh, I can rip off the F-16 and the IAI Lavi too!" crap out of the thread, plox. There are so many things I can rip into in that video, it's not even funny.
(If you haven't guessed already, I have a real chip on my shoulder about these things.)
(http://www.all-about-reptiles.com/images/convergent-evolution.gif) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convergent_evolution)
Have you considered that with same information available, similar solutions - both functionally and visually - simply emerge from independent developement?
Besides, Dilmah, I would have thought you knew better than to judge an aircraft from its looks. It most likely has a lot of differences from the planes you mentioned.
One could, with good reason, also claim that the whole history of aviation developement is "ripping off" other good designs at the time.
Don't have enough tech to make a single wing strong and large enough to provide lift for the aircraft? Use two wings tied together so they structurally enforce each other. (examples: Almmost all WWI biplanes and consequent developement up to Hawker Hurricane pretty much)
Need more lift? Add a third wing. (Sopwith Triplane - Fokker Dr.I)
Parasol wing? Nice, we now have enogh engine power and structural strength that we can go fast enough to provide enough lift with a single wing, so let's just remove the lower wing. (P.11, others)
High/Low/Middle cantilever wing monoplane? A wing that joins directly to fuselage and there's no external struts? Cool, we can get rid of all that drag from the cables and stuff. (Junkers F.13, Ford Tri-Motor, Hawker Hurricane etc.)
All-metal stressed-skin monocoque fuselage? Wow that's cool let's use it everywhere now that we have enough technology and alloys to make it light enough. (Heinkel He-70, Douglas DC-2, Messerschmitt Bf-109, Supermarine Spitfire, North American Aviation P-51 Mustang, pretty much anything...)
Jet engine? MOAR SPEED
Swept wing? Nice, now our jets can fly faster. (Messerschmitt Me-262 to some extent, Focke-Wulf Ta-183, MiG-15, MiG-17, North American F-86/100 Sabre and Super Sabre...)
Oh, we need more wing area? Let's make it a delta wing.
Even more lift? Hmm... Leading edge extensions, lightened structure, advanced composite materials, blended-wing fuselage...
So, where am I going with this? I'm trying to point out that most contemporary aircraft have a LOT in common with regards to their general design. It doesn't automatically mean "ripping off" from existing airplanes.
This affects commercial airplanes even more, to the extent that pretty much all airplanes since Boeing 707 look essentially the same to casual observer. There are minor changes like engine positions, elevator mounting, size, length, hull width etc, but all the planes have swept wing for trans-sonic flight, tube-shaped pressurized hull, cockpit windows that look almost the same, and so forth. Even the more unique Boeing 747 and Airbus A-380 are more or less just supersized versions of the "basic design".
But if you look beneath the surface, these planes usually have high degree of individual features and solutions. That's why type training is required when transitioning to other airplane type - you can't just barge into cockpit and expect to know everything you should about the plane's behaviour and systems.
Ergo, calling J-10 a "rip-off" of F-16 and Lavi just based on their looks is not something I can endorse. :p
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Hmmm. (http://www.google.com/search?aq=1&oq=china+steal&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=china+stealing+technology)
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Oh, come on. The J-10 looks like a cross between the Eurofighter and the F16 to me.
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Oh, come on. The J-10 looks like a cross between the Eurofighter and the F16 to me.
:nod:
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Of course it does, but I wouldn't be too keen on making a "rip-off" judgement with that argument alone.
It's very likely that they ARE in fact stealing technological solutions, but the visual appearance of fighter airplanes tend to share similar characteristics at any given time, so it's not exactly a surprise that the J-10 looks somewhat similar to existing designs.
I would be more interested in how much they share in common with western designs in avionics, radar, weapons systems, powerplant and actual structural designs beyond the outward appearance. Also, how much they're getting from Russians.
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Well I guess the fact the reporter spewed out everything the Chinese blokes told him ("All pilots have a College degree." Great. A)The US have been doing that for years, and B) How's that going to help in a dogfight? They had a joke about degrees in "Underwater Basket Weaving" when people talked about degree qualified pilots) and spoke it as if it was groundbreaking did annoy me.
But as far as I heard, the aircraft's avionics were strikingly similar to the Lavi's, which is what prompted me to call it a rip-off. Read on another forum that info transferred from Israeli companies, or something or rather.
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China is expected to steal and reverse engineer its military hardware due to the fact that this is what they've been doing since the Cultural Murder... um, Revolution. Seeing as everything and anything gets shipped off to China for manufacturing now-a-days, getting a hold of advanced technology is no problem, either. With maybe an exception or two here and there, I've really not seen ANY Chinese aircraft that wasn't a development of an existing design or was the product of some form of reverse engineering. Needless to say, I don't think the J-10 is one of those exceptions...
Regardless, did you try Hornet, Dilmah? In its current form, it is a bit dated, but it's still a good sim.
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Heh,
OH****.
Will do once my internet gets back up to speed on the 16th. :) Could help me memorize some very valuable facts and figures about the Hornet for an assessment day interview + Officer selection board too.
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On the topic of the video, that Blue Angels F-18 pull up over the water was ****ing AWESOME. :D
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The Blue Angels seen in person are
****ing AWESOME.
I think they totally pwn the Thunderbirds, and are almost as fun to see as the Raptor.