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Title: FRED can perform subliminal messaging
Post by: General Battuta on April 14, 2010, 08:12:36 pm
Maybe you should put a warning on it!

Using show-subtitle-image you can deliver stimuli at durations below the liminal threshold. These can influence all manner of cognitive processes.

I know I'll be flashing 'awesome' and 'win' and 'money' for 10ms every second.
Title: Re: FRED can perform subliminal messaging
Post by: Angelus on April 14, 2010, 08:31:52 pm
That means, i can place a couple of ships in a mission, group them in waves, set the number of waves to something like 99.
Give them simple attackorders and make a random Warhol-esk background and let those ships send messages like "the pie is lie",
"we are under a tack", "don't cry for me Aquitaine", "lulz", "owned" and "i wuuuuv fishies".
Save this mission under 25 different names, add them to a campaignfile and everyone who plays this will say:

Bestest campaign evar!!!!1!

if i add those subliminal messages.  :P


Seriously, this might be useful in certain moments... :nervous:
Title: Re: FRED can perform subliminal messaging
Post by: Goober5000 on April 14, 2010, 09:10:13 pm
Like the fourth mission of DEM 1.5? :nervous:
Title: Re: FRED can perform subliminal messaging
Post by: Scourge of Ages on April 14, 2010, 09:14:53 pm
I forsee seizure bombs being created...
Title: Re: FRED can perform subliminal messaging
Post by: Shivan Hunter on April 14, 2010, 09:51:24 pm
Question is, can your PC render frames below the liminal threshold? Mine has trouble going over 45fps at times (granted, I usually have a bunch of crap running in the background, including Firefox and FRED).

An image flashing on the screen when frames are at 45-60fps would be very annoying, but not beneath the liminal threshold AFAIK. Of course, if you're hardcore and play without any mediavps or anything, the fps could get way up there... in fact, I feel like doing some benchmarking...
Title: Re: FRED can perform subliminal messaging
Post by: General Battuta on April 14, 2010, 09:54:44 pm
One frame at 60 fps is about 16 milliseconds (if I did the math right.) You probably can't actually get true subliminal stuff in here, but you could still prime people with stimuli too fast to consciously recognize.
Title: Re: FRED can perform subliminal messaging
Post by: Bob-san on April 14, 2010, 10:15:26 pm
One frame at 60 fps is about 16 milliseconds (if I did the math right.) You probably can't actually get true subliminal stuff in here, but you could still prime people with stimuli too fast to consciously recognize.
Which means a standard LCD will be skipping quite a few of these little messages. :P
Title: Re: FRED can perform subliminal messaging
Post by: redsniper on April 15, 2010, 03:35:11 pm
Maybe you should put a warning on it!

Using show-subtitle-image you can deliver stimuli at durations below the liminal threshold. These can influence all manner of cognitive processes.

I know I'll be flashing 'awesome' and 'win' and 'money' for 10ms every second.
Wait, for serious? Could you really influence the player with stuff like this? I am highly intrigued.

Could I instill a feeling of GAR righteous fury in the player??
Title: Re: FRED can perform subliminal messaging
Post by: QuantumDelta on April 15, 2010, 05:50:37 pm
makes mental note to install method into every campaign evar, to make people play multi...
Title: Re: FRED can perform subliminal messaging
Post by: General Battuta on April 15, 2010, 05:53:07 pm
One frame at 60 fps is about 16 milliseconds (if I did the math right.) You probably can't actually get true subliminal stuff in here, but you could still prime people with stimuli too fast to consciously recognize.
Which means a standard LCD will be skipping quite a few of these little messages. :P

Doesn't matter.
Title: Re: FRED can perform subliminal messaging
Post by: FUBAR-BDHR on April 15, 2010, 07:44:08 pm
I can see it now.  Someone will make a mission with that one Vasudian pic I dare not show flashing once every 60 frames until everyone goes blind. 
Title: Re: FRED can perform subliminal messaging
Post by: Mongoose on April 15, 2010, 08:08:57 pm
...that picture seriously still has some people wigged-out?  You need to explore more of the bowels of the Internet, my friends. :p