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Title: I'MA FIRIN MAH LAZOR
Post by: Dilmah G on June 06, 2010, 07:08:14 am
Or rather, you blokes over the pond are.  (http://www.news.com.au/technology/us-brings-drone-down-with-laws-raygun/story-e6frfro0-1225874886708)


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THE US Navy has a raygun - and it's a big one.

In a red-letter week for the US military, its Naval Sea Systems command "successfully tracked, engaged, and destroyed” several unmanned aircraft with its Laser Weapon System, otherwise known as LaWS.

On the ground, iRobot unveiled its gift to the Pentagon - the 710 Warrior designed to clear an entire 45 square metre minefield in one blow.

But first, the raygun.

According to The Register, "it represents the first Detect-Thru-Engage laser shoot-down of a threat representative target in an over-the-water, combat representative scenario".

LaWS is fitted to the Navy's "R2-D2" robotic gun turret and looks every bit like what you'd expect a raygun to look like.



In normal operations, R2-D2 would support the Navy's Phalanx 20mm cannon, which automatically locks onto incoming missiles and blasts them out of the sky.

Unfortunately for anyone in the impact zone, that ususally results in a shower of shrapnel or the 20mm shell itself if it fails to explode.

The LaWS system simply vapourises the target.

Naval spokesman Captain David Kiel said the success test "validates the military utility of (rayguns) in a maritime environment".

"Further development and integration of increasingly more powerful lasers into Surface Navy LaWS will increase both the engagement range and target sets that can be successfully engaged and destroyed," he said.

As for iRobot's Warrior, an extremely convincing video shows how it can roll into a minefield and deploy a set of grenades to clear a large chunk of turf.

iRobot co-founder had previously told Wired that his company wasn't in the business of making weaponised robots, and it's probably sticking to its guns, so to speak.

But obviously iRobot can't tell the US military how to use its devastating metal marine...
Title: Re: I'MA FIRIN MAH LAZOR
Post by: Snail on June 06, 2010, 09:33:14 am
Didn't they have something like this already?
Title: Re: I'MA FIRIN MAH LAZOR
Post by: iamzack on June 06, 2010, 09:37:36 am
shut up man, be cool
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Post by: FreeSpaceFreak on June 06, 2010, 10:51:07 am
ZAPPP!
Title: Re: I'MA FIRIN MAH LAZOR
Post by: Snail on June 06, 2010, 01:12:11 pm
shut up man, be cool
Ok. Sorry. :(
Title: Re: I'MA FIRIN MAH LAZOR
Post by: mxlm on June 06, 2010, 02:47:09 pm
I'm too lazy to research, and by research I mean read the article.

So what happens to the LAZOR in bad weather?
Title: Re: I'MA FIRIN MAH LAZOR
Post by: Nuclear1 on June 06, 2010, 02:55:25 pm
I can already see the "I AM THE LaW" unit patches.
Title: Re: I'MA FIRIN MAH LAZOR
Post by: SpardaSon21 on June 06, 2010, 03:08:23 pm
That would be awesome.
Title: Re: I'MA FIRIN MAH LAZOR
Post by: Wanderer on June 06, 2010, 03:10:01 pm
Heh - apart from the lazors... iRobot Warrior is pretty much reinvented Bangalore torpedo... Takes some balls to call it a 'new' invention :P
Title: Re: I'MA FIRIN MAH LAZOR
Post by: Nuke on June 06, 2010, 07:36:01 pm
what? no sharks?
Title: Re: I'MA FIRIN MAH LAZOR
Post by: Thaeris on June 06, 2010, 08:56:36 pm
what? no sharks?

Indeed - Screw the lasers!

...I want SEAL teams to ride into battle on the backs of minigun-wielding dolphins!

(think of the end of that "Machete" movie trailer when reading this.)
Title: Re: I'MA FIRIN MAH LAZOR
Post by: IceFire on June 06, 2010, 09:37:38 pm
I'm too lazy to research, and by research I mean read the article.

So what happens to the LAZOR in bad weather?
I could be wrong but this one has enough power to burn through bad weather at short distances.  And given that it's supposed to be a point defense weapon it doesn't matter too much.  The Phalanx 20mm is meant as a last ditch effort.  If the laser can do it better, then... literally fire away :D
Title: Re: I'MA FIRIN MAH LAZOR
Post by: Klaustrophobia on June 06, 2010, 10:25:09 pm
the mine thing looks to me like just a really long string of detcord
Title: Re: I'MA FIRIN MAH LAZOR
Post by: FUBAR-BDHR on June 06, 2010, 10:29:59 pm
We've had this for quite awhile.  The big problem was making it small enough to fit on things like airplanes and tanks.  Ships have plenty of room.  No when they get it down to where they can fit it on an airborne platform then I'll be impressed (assuming we don't have it already and just aren't telling anyone). 
Title: Re: I'MA FIRIN MAH LAZOR
Post by: Klaustrophobia on June 06, 2010, 10:50:24 pm
they've had a 747-mounted one for a while now haven't they?
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Post by: SpardaSon21 on June 06, 2010, 11:18:50 pm
That one is for ICBM's.
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Post by: Klaustrophobia on June 06, 2010, 11:31:55 pm
ok so they point it at something different, but still pretty much the same technology.
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Post by: Kosh on June 07, 2010, 12:46:37 am
And ir was canned.
Title: Re: I'MA FIRIN MAH LAZOR
Post by: General Battuta on June 07, 2010, 12:50:31 am
ok so they point it at something different, but still pretty much the same technology.

Actually I imagine this is a different sort of laser, though I could be wrong. The ABL was a big chemical laser; I can't see how anything this small could be a chemical laser. It's probably some kind of solid state thing? Anyone have info?
Title: Re: I'MA FIRIN MAH LAZOR
Post by: Bobboau on June 07, 2010, 01:29:07 am
I would imagine that the programming for the two systems could have some substantial overlap.
Title: Re: I'MA FIRIN MAH LAZOR
Post by: FUBAR-BDHR on June 07, 2010, 10:46:37 pm
they've had a 747-mounted one for a while now haven't they?

Last I heard they had a prototype but it didn't fit in the plane yet.  Of course would they say that that had them even if they had a 24 cap around North Korea, and Iran?  What would be the advantage it the enemy knowing their missiles were useless and their payload dropped right back on the launch site?  They would just work on some other tech then instead of putting all their effort into long range nukes.
Title: Re: I'MA FIRIN MAH LAZOR
Post by: Nuke on June 07, 2010, 11:55:39 pm
ok so they point it at something different, but still pretty much the same technology.

Actually I imagine this is a different sort of laser, though I could be wrong. The ABL was a big chemical laser; I can't see how anything this small could be a chemical laser. It's probably some kind of solid state thing? Anyone have info?

i think the newer lasers are solid state arrays. of course its probably a lame guess with no basis in reality.
Title: Re: I'MA FIRIN MAH LAZOR
Post by: Nuclear1 on June 08, 2010, 11:10:29 am
they've had a 747-mounted one for a while now haven't they?

Last I heard they had a prototype but it didn't fit in the plane yet.

The prototype worked--it shot down two or three test missiles out at Vandenberg.  Air Force Chief of Staff simply ordered development stopped, saying something like "unfeasible".
Title: Re: I'MA FIRIN MAH LAZOR
Post by: Flipside on June 08, 2010, 11:17:00 am
they've had a 747-mounted one for a while now haven't they?

Last I heard they had a prototype but it didn't fit in the plane yet.

The prototype worked--it shot down two or three test missiles out at Vandenberg.  Air Force Chief of Staff simply ordered development stopped, saying something like "unfeasible".

Why do I get the feeling that's a rough translation of 'It reduces the number of pilots needed, and that will affect our budget'?
Title: Re: I'MA FIRIN MAH LAZOR
Post by: Nuclear1 on June 08, 2010, 11:38:51 am
they've had a 747-mounted one for a while now haven't they?

Last I heard they had a prototype but it didn't fit in the plane yet.

The prototype worked--it shot down two or three test missiles out at Vandenberg.  Air Force Chief of Staff simply ordered development stopped, saying something like "unfeasible".

Why do I get the feeling that's a rough translation of 'It reduces the number of pilots needed, and that will affect our budget'?

Yeah, that's usually how it goes. 

Besides, we need pilots to fly the F-35 so we can fight the Al Qaeda Air Force.
Title: Re: I'MA FIRIN MAH LAZOR
Post by: Dilmah G on June 08, 2010, 11:26:32 pm
F-35, argh. Did I mention waste of time and money sucker?
Title: Re: I'MA FIRIN MAH LAZOR
Post by: FUBAR-BDHR on June 08, 2010, 11:34:07 pm
You know it's always possible they have it down to fighter size already.  Either that or the 747 version was just a test bed and there are now several satellites in geosynchronous obit over problem areas armed with this weapon.
Title: Re: I'MA FIRIN MAH LAZOR
Post by: Scourge of Ages on June 09, 2010, 12:39:05 am
heh, http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=1694
Title: Re: I'MA FIRIN MAH LAZOR
Post by: Wobble73 on June 09, 2010, 06:50:59 am
So....how long till I can sharks with frickin laser beams on there heads?  :drevil: