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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Thorn on April 21, 2002, 11:28:40 am
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An early version of a render someone I know is having me make for a B5 Homeworld mod called "Conflict of Interests"
Not too happy with it right now, but thought I would post it, get some input...
Bout the only thing I'm happy with right now is the Vorlon Dreadnought exploding...
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/tap/renders/conflict.jpg)
Vorlon Dreadnought, Vorlon Planet Killer - Fabio Passaro
Victory - Thomas Banner
Warlock - Chris Sapiano
Starfury - by Mark Kane
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2 vicotys can take outa dreadnaught yet two dreadnaughts cant take out a warlock somethign wrong there the vorlons own those shipa and the star fury piltsoi are ****ting themselves
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A Victory can take out a Drahk carrier, which is kinda organic Shadow stuff, with a single shot. A Vorlon dreadnaught is the joint second most powerful ship in space (aside from planet-killers and 3rd-space ships) and can down just about anything in one of two shots. The Victory's would be dead in space with 2 shots. The Warlock (or is it a Hyperion?) would be down with maybe 3 or 4 shots. A dreadnaught would be damaged by two Victory blasts but not destroyed. A fleet would be accompanying the PK. There would be far more Starfuries and Vorlon fighters. There is only one Victory.
Thus is my analysis of the pic.
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Considering that a Vorlon Dreadnought could at full power blow right through B5 and crater the planet below it, I'd say it would leave nothing but space wreckage of any YR ship, even the Victory.
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Looks pretty though - well done :)
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The cross-glows for the Dreadnought's lightning cannons look a bit overexposed, but generally I'd say it's pretty close to B5 effects.
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The Victory's would be dead in space with 2 shots. The Warlock (or is it a Hyperion?) would be down with maybe 3 or 4 shots.
Victory class is far more resiliant than a Warlock...despite the Warlock being quite good.
Both ships may sustain perhaps two hits before crumbling up into a little ball of dust. It'd take a MUCH larger fleet to even damage the Vorlon PK...nevermind take on some of the Vorlon cruisers which could properly shoot back.
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Alright, say the VCDs got lucky. The Warlock is doomed, and the VCDs will fall to the same fate a minute or two later....
The PK is basically just scenery...
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I'm quite impressed by this actually, Thorn. The image quality is going up, which is fantastic; also, like Shrike, I think those energy crosses on the top-left Vorlon attack vessels are a tad overexposed, but could be a lot worse; overall, yes, a pretty faithful representation of the original B5 effects. :) Your explosions are particularly good - the light emanations from both the dreadnought going down and also the Warlock being hit are very, very nice. Well done. :):yes:
Also, your gallery has been updated. ;)
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Rah, rendering a higher detail one now...
Radiosity si teh winnar...
Bah.. 8 hours later...
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Originally posted by Setekh
I'm quite impressed by this actually, Thorn. The image quality is going up, which is fantastic; also, like Shrike, I think those energy crosses on the top-left Vorlon attack vessels are a tad overexposed, but could be a lot worse; overall, yes, a pretty faithful representation of the original B5 effects. :) Your explosions are particularly good - the light emanations from both the dreadnought going down and also the Warlock being hit are very, very nice. Well done. :):yes:
Also, your gallery has been updated. ;)
He also uses lensflares like me for explosions:)
it looks nice, try to add some particles, whit the particel emitter and hypervoxels.:)
other wise good job :yes:
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I did use a particle emitter, I just wanted a bright flash, like the reactor going critical. Put a whole lot of particles in it with a huge lens flare in the middle, that way, most of the light hits the particles, doesnt fill the whole screen.
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Treu...lensflares make the particles not good visible. only when close up view. Or my eye's are pure crap.
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Originally posted by darkage
He also uses lensflares like me for explosions:)
it looks nice, try to add some particles, whit the particel emitter and hypervoxels.:)
I know... :) I do too, often... that's why I think it's good. ;)
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I just think it needs more work on the lighting and perspective adjustment... it just doesn't pass the idea of the true size of those ships.
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Updated...
Its still not done, I want to render a wireframe version (minus a few ships and effects) and stick it on the radar display.
(http://dynamic4.gamespy.com/~freespace/hosted/tap/Thorn/Renders/coi_1024.jpg)
Thanks to Setekh for the input...
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Way better! Still needs some work, but it improved a lot!
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Another update, I added the ships to the radar display.
Next task, make a HUD, anyone have any pictures of a 'Fury's HUD?
(http://dynamic4.gamespy.com/~freespace/hosted/tap/Thorn/Renders/coi_1024_hud.jpg)
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The beams still look funny and the Vorlon ( :mad: ) ships wouldn't gang up on one Warlock. No point.
Other than that: Ooooooh. Purdy.
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an0n, thats not going to change, this is what I was asked to do....
As for the beams, I'm working on it..
Here is the latest one, linking it because its huge...
1280x1024 version (http://dynamic4.gamespy.com/~freespace/hosted/tap/Thorn/Renders/coi_1280_hud.jpg)
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Nice, nice. :yes: You're welcome on the input.
Originally posted by Thorn
Next task, make a HUD, anyone have any pictures of a 'Fury's HUD?
Even just doing up that cockpit with some better (ie. existent) material effects on the fixtures around the place would be a good improvement. :nod:
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Originally posted by Thorn
an0n, thats not going to change, this is what I was asked to do....
As for the beams, I'm working on it..
Here is the latest one, linking it because its huge...
1280x1024 version (http://dynamic4.gamespy.com/~freespace/hosted/tap/Thorn/Renders/coi_1280_hud.jpg)
My new wallpaper. Good work. I like the overexposed beam junction, myself. Steak's right about the material effects on the cockpit. Now TEACH ME you bastard. ;) If only just for the time we spent together in prison... ;)
*cuing up that Tool song* :D
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Eh?
Teach you something?
After what you did to me in there?
Yeah, ok...
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:ha:
http://dynamic4.gamespy.com/~freespace/art/?gallery=20