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Modding, Mission Design, and Coding => FS2 Open Coding - The Source Code Project (SCP) => Topic started by: Skullar on July 28, 2010, 12:02:06 pm

Title: Light maps ins fred ?
Post by: Skullar on July 28, 2010, 12:02:06 pm

Are not shown, right ?

Title: Re: Light maps ins fred ?
Post by: The E on July 28, 2010, 12:02:48 pm

wat

I mean, wat?

Also, consider joining the #hard-light channel, where these quick, off-the cuff questions like this can be answered quickly.

Also, have you tried the "Lighting from suns" option?

Title: Re: Light maps ins fred ?
Post by: Galemp on July 28, 2010, 03:26:37 pm

I think he means glowmaps... and no, I don't believe they are. Then again, it's only FRED; I always use it with wireframe models and Media VPs turned off anyway.

Title: Re: Light maps ins fred ?
Post by: Fury on July 28, 2010, 03:45:47 pm

Quote from: Galemp on July 28, 2010, 03:26:37 pm

I always use it with wireframe models

I wonder how you're able to? For me fred2_open becomes extremely slow and unresponsive whenever wireframe is used

Title: Re: Light maps ins fred ?
Post by: General Battuta on July 28, 2010, 04:00:00 pm

Quote from: Fury on July 28, 2010, 03:45:47 pm

Quote from: Galemp on July 28, 2010, 03:26:37 pm

I always use it with wireframe models

I wonder how you're able to? For me fred2_open becomes extremely slow and unresponsive whenever wireframe is used

Me too. Wireframes cause incredible lag and I'm on a very high-end rig.

Title: Re: Light maps ins fred ?
Post by: sigtau on July 28, 2010, 04:01:25 pm

Quote from: General Battuta on July 28, 2010, 04:00:00 pm

Quote from: Fury on July 28, 2010, 03:45:47 pm

Quote from: Galemp on July 28, 2010, 03:26:37 pm

I always use it with wireframe models

I wonder how you're able to? For me fred2_open becomes extremely slow and unresponsive whenever wireframe is used

Me too. Wireframes cause incredible lag and I'm on a very high-end rig.

Same.

Title: Re: Light maps ins fred ?
Post by: The E on July 28, 2010, 04:26:17 pm

That's because wireframe mode is also known as "Software rendering mode". If you're using it, it means that your shiny GPU goes unused.

Title: Re: Light maps ins fred ?
Post by: Skullar on July 28, 2010, 04:55:06 pm

Same thing in stores. The "light" products which miss all the tasty ingredients are even more expensive.

Title: Re: Light maps ins fred ?
Post by: FUBAR-BDHR on July 28, 2010, 05:48:33 pm

It's not just in FRED and it's not wireframe that causes the slowdown.  It's any wireframe that is IFF colored.  Seems replacing the base color with the IFF on the draws is what slows it down to a crawl.  Even a simple 3d wireframe used as a jumpnode will drop FPS through the floor ingame. 

Title: Re: Light maps ins fred ?
Post by: Galemp on July 28, 2010, 09:05:04 pm

Hm! Has anyone sent this to Mantis?

Title: Re: Light maps ins fred ?
Post by: Aardwolf on July 28, 2010, 10:36:10 pm

Quote from: Galemp on July 28, 2010, 03:26:37 pm

I think he means glowmaps... and no, I don't believe they are. Then again, it's only FRED; I always use it with wireframe models and Media VPs turned off anyway.

Huh? Glowmaps can be enabled! Just add -glow to the command line.

Title: Re: Light maps ins fred ?
Post by: sigtau on July 28, 2010, 11:11:44 pm

...but they aren't animated, are they?  I mean, if you have MV_Advanced and it works for you in FSO, it still won't animate in FRED.

Title: Re: Light maps ins fred ?
Post by: Zacam on July 29, 2010, 12:20:32 am

Why would you want it to? Srsly? Choke up even MORE system resources?

It's not like _seeing_ the Animated glow maps is really going to affect layout or anything. Other than taking longer to load things in.

Title: Re: Light maps ins fred ?
Post by: Skullar on July 29, 2010, 03:56:18 am

On occasions, I played with lightning, ambient light setup, etc.....
You are absolutely right, for normal mission design this is useless, but I sometimes had to balance out these details for ingame cutscenes, and I always had to load the mission over and over to control if everything was as I wanted it to be.

Terrible grammar .....