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Title: Bye bye ATI......
Post by: Kosh on August 30, 2010, 10:36:24 am
 RIP :( (http://www.hardocp.com/news/2010/08/30/ati_brand_discontinued)


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Best of all, AMD has redesigned the stickers for its chips, and there are actually two sets. One drops all mention of even the AMD name, replacing it with the word "graphics" so when its discrete graphics cards ship in Intel boxes, the names won’t clash. So goes the complex corporate maze that lies behind those ugly stickers found on all PCs.
Title: Re: Bye bye ATI......
Post by: The E on August 30, 2010, 10:38:13 am
Meh, not that big a deal. In fact, I kinda wonder why it took AMD so long.
Title: Re: Bye bye ATI......
Post by: Satellight on August 30, 2010, 10:39:00 am
A page of business history is turned...

EDIT : Fixed  :)
Title: Re: Bye bye ATI......
Post by: The E on August 30, 2010, 10:40:11 am
It's not history, it's business.
Title: Re: Bye bye ATI......
Post by: Nuke on August 30, 2010, 11:39:47 am
i dont care, i use nvidia
Title: Re: Bye bye ATI......
Post by: Commander Zane on August 30, 2010, 12:03:29 pm
I could care less, I'm still peeved that the only laptop I could find that had the most desired features only had options for ATI cards, but oh well.
Title: Re: Bye bye ATI......
Post by: General Battuta on August 30, 2010, 12:12:03 pm
It's just the end of ATI stickers. Nothing has changed about the cards, thank goodness.
Title: Re: Bye bye ATI......
Post by: Nuke on August 30, 2010, 12:13:32 pm
I could care less, I'm still peeved that the only laptop I could find that had the most desired features only had options for ATI cards, but oh well.

i have an asus laptop with an ati graphics chipset (3650/3200 dual setup, fast gpu and energy efficient gpu which can be switched as needed), but the gpu is practically useless because you cant update the drivers. the generic graphics drivers break the capability to switch gpus and only support the lower end gpu, and the ones asus put out are a year old and they refuse to update them. you can play older games fine, but starcraft 2 had trouble running on it.
Title: Re: Bye bye ATI......
Post by: Fury on August 30, 2010, 12:35:44 pm
That's standard OEM manufacturer policy. They don't update drivers until they really have to. They don't give a **** about games any further than marketing and ripping off your money. So it is pretty much pointless to buy mobile devices such as laptops for the purpose of running games. Unless of course you do your research and ascertain that generic drivers work on it, which doesn't seem to be the case here. Whether the GPU is ATI or NVIDIA doesn't make the slightest difference, it's a ripoff.
Title: Re: Bye bye ATI......
Post by: Nuke on August 30, 2010, 12:46:37 pm
aye. the machine was pretty powerful when i bought it, and can still run crysis fairly well. i only bought it because i needed a computer in a hurry. i did do some research about the computer, but not to the point where i checked for future driver availability. asus did update drivers for a year or so. the biggest ripoff is that the laptop only has drivers for windows vista. which kinda sucks, i tried upgrading to 7, but driver issues prevented that from working, downgrading to xp had issues as well, so its stuck running one of the crappiest versions of windows ever. it only is used for games because its the second most powerful computer in the house and i use it for lan games with my brother in law. i hate proprietary computers, laptops included.
Title: Re: Bye bye ATI......
Post by: Mongoose on August 30, 2010, 02:06:23 pm
Sweet, my card's box still has "ATI" on it.  Maybe it'll be worth something now. :p
Title: Re: Bye bye ATI......
Post by: Liberator on August 30, 2010, 06:43:38 pm
I suppose this is good business tho I can't understand why you would retire such a venerable product name.  I liken this to Chevy just deciding to rename the Covette something else entirely, like say Sports Car.
Title: Re: Bye bye ATI......
Post by: S-99 on August 30, 2010, 07:36:51 pm
So check out an environment where updating the drivers isn't a problem.....linux. After all, if you can't depend on the OEM, **** them.

In this case i wish that if it's possible that the people who head off the opensource driver projects would also compile them to work on windows.
Title: Re: Bye bye ATI......
Post by: The E on August 30, 2010, 07:45:52 pm
In this case i wish that if it's possible that the people who head off the opensource driver projects would also compile them to work on windows.

Which isn't possible, due to the massive differences in driver architecture between Linux and Windows.
Title: Re: Bye bye ATI......
Post by: Nuke on August 30, 2010, 08:29:17 pm
So check out an environment where updating the drivers isn't a problem.....linux. After all, if you can't depend on the OEM, **** them.

In this case i wish that if it's possible that the people who head off the opensource driver projects would also compile them to work on windows.

that may be possible when and if they ever finish reactos. i kinda dont like the linux way of doing things, there are some things i like, gcc for example. programming on linux is awesome. but i would never want to do general stuff on it. having an open windows  now (what reactos aims to do), that would be totally awesome.
Title: Re: Bye bye ATI......
Post by: Glowhyena on September 02, 2010, 09:28:14 pm
Hah, I prefer the green video cards.  :P
Title: Re: Bye bye ATI......
Post by: S-99 on September 02, 2010, 11:09:57 pm
ATI is now the doctor who of video cards.
Title: Re: Bye bye ATI......
Post by: Glowhyena on September 02, 2010, 11:18:11 pm
Ha ha. I love that show. xD
Title: Re: Bye bye ATI......
Post by: Kosh on September 03, 2010, 12:18:56 am
ATI is now the doctor who of video cards.

Not too far from the truth. It was a very old brand, going back 25 years. Back in the DOSian era, started up during the mass extinction in '85 when a big slowdown hit silicon valley and wiped out many then venerable brands like Osbourne. Then it survived into the Windowsiferous period and the transition to 3Daceous, which lead to the decline of many other video card makers like Trident.