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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Nuclear1 on August 31, 2010, 07:07:37 pm
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...is over.
There's nothing that really needs to be said...it's over now.
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Good on you guys!
Now all that's left for you to do is go on and plant some trees, the new enemy is pollution.
Says my 22 degrees winter.
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...is over.
There's nothing that really needs to be said...it's over now.
About ****ing time.
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Now all that's left is the political wrangling to see who's "responsible" for the pull-out.
The end of a 7-year war should bring peace. Unfortunately there is no time to breathe easy. :nervous:
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my 22 degrees winter.
we wave won the war against ice!
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Now all that's left is the political wrangling to see who's "responsible" for the pull-out.
The end of a 7-year war should bring peace. Unfortunately there is no time to breathe easy. :nervous:
Fact: after AQI, HoL is the most dangerous faction in Iraq ;)
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Mission accomplished?
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Mission accomplished?
The very definition of famous last words... ;)
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Looking at past events, aren't those more like "famous middle words" or "famous starting words"?
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Now all we need to do is pull out of Afghanistan...
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Not going to happen for quite a while. Not with that trillion dollar mineral discovery anyway....
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and I can bet you we are going to keep a small base in Iraq forever.
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and I can bet you we are going to keep a small base in Iraq forever.
Which, to be fair, isn't a bad place to keep it from a strategic standpoint.
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Not going to happen for quite a while. Not with that trillion dollar mineral discovery anyway....
politicians think afghanistan is our natural, but really, it's that indefensible high-yield in the middle of the map
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Not going to happen for quite a while. Not with that trillion dollar mineral discovery anyway....
politicians think afghanistan is our natural, but really, it's that indefensible high-yield in the middle of the map
Being indefensible never stopped stopped lots of people from trying to go for it on multiplayer. Why should real life be any different?
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Yeah, the Russians tried to take over, but the Americans gave the mujahideen super 1337 h4x to stop them.
Then the Russians GG'd and left.
Oh and BEE TEE DUBS the new operation is called "New Dawn"...expect vampires and werewolves.
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Don't make it sound awesome by mentioning such things and then use that title dammit Nuclear!
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Don't make it sound awesome by mentioning such things and then use that title dammit Nuclear!
Hey, don't get mad cus I'm on Task Force Edward :p
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Hey, don't get mad cus I'm on Task Force Edward :p
Task Force Reneseme, you say?
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You couldn't have just made a Task Force Jacob joke could ya? :p
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The only task force I want to hear about in relation to either Edward or the other one is the one bombarding them into tiny tiny unrecognizable pieces.
On topic, I'm not convinced that we're in a position to do this in a way that would be safe for the Iraqi people, strategically speaking. All this has done, most likely, is give the enemies there and in other places the concept that we will only fight until we don't want to any more and all they have to do is hold up till it's politically inconvienet for who ever happens to be in office, not until we've won. You cannot fight a war and base the end condition on anything other than victory, if you let the politicians run it, then you get Vietnam over and over and over again.
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define victory in this context
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Operation Rolling Thunder :yes:
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Setting aside people's varying (and all legitimate) opinions on the legality of the war, managment afterwards and whatnot, i feel everyone can agree on one thing; the men and woman in the US and British Armed Forces fought a difficult war against an enemy that knows no conscience or humanity, and they never gave up even when the whole world (including their own countrymen) seemed against them. For all the hatred of the politicians who ordered them in, i hope people keep their respect for those who went out and gave all they could (some including their lives) for a cause they believed was good, whether it was or not.
Here's to them. May they go home proud and sleep well.
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Setting aside people's varying (and all legitimate) opinions on the legality of the war, managment afterwards and whatnot, i feel everyone can agree on one thing; the men and woman in the US and British Armed Forces fought a difficult war against an enemy that knows no conscience or humanity, and they never gave up even when the whole world (including their own countrymen) seemed against them. For all the hatred of the politicians who ordered them in, i hope people keep their respect for those who went out and gave all they could (some including their lives) for a cause they believed was good, whether it was or not.
Here's to them. May they go home proud and sleep well.
Well, except obviously all the innumerable bastards who actually killed or injured people and destroyed stuff unnecessarily. It'd be kinda silly to be proud of doing evil regardless of what you thought of it at the time, so I guess you weren't referring to those people anyway.
But sure, I too will tip my hat off to everyone who was ordered or otherwise under pressure to do evil but chose not to. :yes: Keep it up.
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Define evil in this context.
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Our servicemen did their job admirably, let's please just leave it at that.
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against an enemy that knows no conscience or humanity
I don't think we should pretend that our enemies are LE SATAN. I mean they say the same stuff about us.
I think their goals are very undesirable, but their methods aren't always that much different from ours. Though one striking comparison an Army field surgeon made was that 'we' would drag injured enemy combatants in for medical treatment, a courtesy I doubt they'd extend.
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Define evil in this context.
Umm, why? Everyone agrees that there was evil done by the US and British Armed Forces over there (pick your poison for example here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_casualties_of_the_War_in_Afghanistan_%282001%E2%80%93present%29#Major_casualties_and_accidental_strikes_by_coalition_forces)), so just use your own definition.
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Though one striking comparison an Army field surgeon made was that 'we' would drag injured enemy combatants in for medical treatment, a courtesy I doubt they'd extend.
i don't know, I think they've dragged their share of our people off for head amputations.
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Though one striking comparison an Army field surgeon made was that 'we' would drag injured enemy combatants in for medical treatment, a courtesy I doubt they'd extend.
i don't know, I think they've dragged their share of our people off for head amputations.
Since they have Dark Age attitudes about everything else why not have it for medicine as well? :P