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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: AlienTermite on September 01, 2010, 12:11:59 am
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Hey everyone,
I have a quick graphics card question. I'm getting a new computer soon, and I'm thinking about getting either an ATI Radeon HD 5670 1GB or the 5870 1 GB. Is FSO compatable with these cards? I know there have been a lot of issues with some ATI cards and drivers and whatnot... so I just wanted to see. If not I'll look into a similar Nvidia card. I'd hate to get a new PC and not be able to play Freespace!
Thanks!
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Is FSO compatable with these cards?
Yes
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Cool! Thanks!
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out of curiosity, why those two particular models? there is a HUGE difference between the two.
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Actually what I meant to say was the HD 5770 or the 5870. Its a money issue more than anything else. The 5870 is definitely what I want but it might be a little overpriced for what I need... the 5770 is cheaper and still a great card. If I knew the 5870 was worth the money over the 5770 then I would go with it no question.
Any opinions on those two cards?
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Got a 5870 Vapor-X - I regret absolutely nothing.
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Love my 5850, but I gotta tell ya, it's not a huge leap over the much cheaper 4870.
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ok that makes more sense. the 5770 is basically a 4870 with the newer shaders and directX and whatnot. FSO ran perfectly on my 4850 with 3.6.10, and only has minor problems with stuff like Blue Planet with 3.6.12
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Actually what I meant to say was the HD 5770 or the 5870. Its a money issue more than anything else. The 5870 is definitely what I want but it might be a little overpriced for what I need... the 5770 is cheaper and still a great card. If I knew the 5870 was worth the money over the 5770 then I would go with it no question.
Any opinions on those two cards?
If this is your dilemma, I'd recommend you get an nVidia Geforce 460 1gb.
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ok that makes more sense. the 5770 is basically a 4870 with the newer shaders and directX and whatnot. FSO ran perfectly on my 4850 with 3.6.10, and only has minor problems with stuff like Blue Planet with 3.6.12
if a 4850 has problems for you with BP, i pity ATI.
Vuws his XFX GTX260 XXX
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Why did you buy an overclocked 9800?
When the 260/280 cards came out, they were better then the 4850/4870 (........sort of) respectively, however; the 280 was ~5-30% better than the 4870, the 4870 was 30% cheaper than the 280. The 260 cost the same as the 4870, the 4870 creamed the 260, and the 260 beat the 4850 by a small margin in some games and a big one in others, for price vs performance the cards were once again about equal.
But ehh... the 260 is just an overclocked 9800 :I
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i will just say that in this regard that you are an uneducated idiot. GTX260 is based on the GT200 chip, while the 9800 is based on the OLDER evolution of the G80, and the whole GF9xxx series is based on chips from the G92a/b, G94a/b, G96a/b, G98 iterations of the basic G80 chip which premiered with the first 8800 cards.
the card that you are thinking of is the GTS250, which is based on the G92b chip (the one most often used in 9800 series cards) and is just a matter of clever marketing on nvidia's side.
and overall, all of this doesnt even matter at all, since i got it extra cheap used, warranty less, etc. which was a bonus, since the card has horrid heat problems with default fan speeds etc.
also, i doubt that your precious 4870's "creamed" my gpu as hard as you say. they are in the comparable performance area and, if i remeber correctly, 275's and 285's ate and spit out your precious 4870's all over.
(also, note i'm a nvidia fanboy, and at the time of getting this card i wasnt actually paying anything for it. if i were buying i likely would have gone ati, since the prices are extra inflated here in croatia..)
anywho, flamewar on?
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So... I bought a 260GTX like a year ago... Everyone says I should have bought an ATI counterpart?
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Cause I like my game performace so far for the price I paid.
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screw what everyone says, the 260's are damn good cards, as are ati's counterparts. the difference is mostly in fanboy amounts at the time, the amount of inflated benchmark tests and price.
and as far as i'm concerned, having 10 fps more in games where fps is already over 40 is irrelevant.
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The fact that a ton of people reported problems with ATI cards running FS made me just a little nervous, then after coming across a ton of reviews and probably useless data on the web I went for this one.
I don't regret it, this is the first GPU I bought "just for playing", and it works better than anything I had before so I'm kinda in love here :p
(probably because all I had before was crap, but... :D )
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The only cards that ATI put out that don't work well with FS were the x1000 seres afaik...
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The fact that a ton of people reported problems with ATI cards running FS made me just a little nervous, then after coming across a ton of reviews and probably useless data on the web I went for this one.
I don't regret it, this is the first GPU I bought "just for playing", and it works better than anything I had before so I'm kinda in love here :p
(probably because all I had before was crap, but... :D )
You overpaid for what you got.
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So... I bought a 260GTX like a year ago... Everyone says I should have bought an ATI counterpart?
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Cause I like my game performace so far for the price I paid.
You probably should have gone with a Radeon counterpart, but a 260 is a very decent card, and it has its own benefits over the Radeon brand.
It is a midrange card that should last you for quite some time as well, at the very least until the next consoles come out, which is probably two to three years from now.
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i will just say that in this regard that you are an uneducated idiot.
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anywho, flamewar on?
And why, pray tell, do you desire to start a flamewar? :wtf:
Anyhow, knock it off. Attack the argument, not the person. This is a warning.
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This thread isn't even about FS anymore, so I'm booting it to GD.
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Well, I decided to go with the Radeon 5870. Ordered my new PC yesterday, its a Dell XPS 7100 with an AMD Phenom II X6 1055T processor (6 cores), 8gb RAM, Radeon 5870 for the GPU, and a 1tb HDD. Got a good Labor Day weekend sale on it. Now I just have to wait a couple weeks for it to be delivered lol
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*wants a 1090T*
*sniffles*
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Well, I decided to go with the Radeon 5870. Ordered my new PC yesterday, its a Dell XPS 7100 with an AMD Phenom II X6 1055T processor (6 cores), 8gb RAM, Radeon 5870 for the GPU, and a 1tb HDD. Got a good Labor Day weekend sale on it. Now I just have to wait a couple weeks for it to be delivered lol
You may need to OC the CPU to get totally smooth framerates in WiH in missions with karunas, but on the whole sounds like a nice buy.
I probably would have tried to get an i7 rather than a Phenom II X6, but it's still a very good core.
Also, it might be worth you picking up an SSD if you've bought a system like this, and use it for windows + your main game
i will just say that in this regard that you are an uneducated idiot.
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anywho, flamewar on?
And why, pray tell, do you desire to start a flamewar? :wtf:
Anyhow, knock it off. Attack the argument, not the person. This is a warning.
We settled it on irc I think (I was kinda playing SC2 at the same time), it was pretty civil, I hadn't clarified my meaning on the forum well enough for how it should have been taken.
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it was a joke, if i wanted to put a real flamewar i would be a lot less subtle and a lot more name calling would go on.
and it was pretty much just a debate over which brand is better and those always end up nowhere :p
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I probably would have tried to get an i7 rather than a Phenom II X6
Unfortunately the i7 wasn't an option with the rig I ordered, otherwise I probably would have gone with it.
*wants a 1090T*
Me too! But really, I'm fine with the 1055T. It will do what I need it to.
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I probably would have tried to get an i7 rather than a Phenom II X6
Unfortunately the i7 wasn't an option with the rig I ordered, otherwise I probably would have gone with it.
*wants a 1090T*
Me too! But really, I'm fine with the 1055T. It will do what I need it to.
I'd actually prefer the 1055T. The extra $100 can be spent on another 4GB RAM or more HDD space or a faster GPU. Once overclocked, the difference between the two is slimmer. The real low-bins are going to Dell/HP/Acer for use in their X6-1035T systems.