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Modding, Mission Design, and Coding => The Modding Workshop => Topic started by: Hades on September 07, 2010, 03:12:32 pm
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~ Not Blue Planet-related ~
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Click the picture to see dem ships at a much larger resolution.
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Confused about the ship in the centre. Guess it's centred to draw attention so I'd ask? Or am I being really dense and should I have run into in WiH?
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Holy Buckets, Batman!
I'm not sure Sara..Logistics ship? (Agincourt type maybe?)
I want to see the Dante put up next to the Colossus..Better yet, I want a mission where the Colossus and Dante duke it out.
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That ship in the middle is Esarai's newest ship, a frigate.
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New comparison pic up in the first post.
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Everytime someone says Colussus I'm tempted to FRED a what-if scenario about what'd happen if the GTVA'd send a refit Colussus-type into Sol to finish business. :P Hearing of the Colussus gives some good Freespace 2 retail memories. It's like Eidos' "Deus Ex", every time someone mentions it, someone will replay it. :P
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Ahh the Hades..funny story with that. The first time I played ST, every person on my team got killed in the Hades mission and I piddled away at it for 2 hours with my Herc before i made it go boom.
Also its odd that the Sactuary's middle part is longer than a normal Orion. Desired or accidental?
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I just made that new ship my Desktop. Now excuse me while I change my pants.
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Oh jesus NOT IN THE LIVING ROOM
Anyway, new comparison picture in the first post.
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The preserver is about 17 Orion's nose to end. I figure it would take about 10 minutes to fly the length. :eek:
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I just now notice the Raynor is as big as the Lucifer, and the Solaris is even bigger. Can we call them superdestroyers?
Also, is the Preserver bigger than the Gigas?
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No, "Superdestroyer" is reserved for ships that display some sort of massively powerful ability that no other ships in the "Destroyer" range has. Titans, Raynors and Solarii are just scaled up from normal DDs, they don't have absolutely game-changing technologies like the Lucy's planet-toasting weapons, or the Hades' beams.
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New comparison shot with 'medium' ships aka, transports to frigates.
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New shot for installation comparisons up, first post as always.
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Since this turns into something of a generalized thingie, I've moved it out of BP and to FSModding. If someone wants to post other size comparisons, go ahead.
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So funny how the Raynor (one of my favorite-in-design ships) look so tiny & cute on the 3rd pic :lol:
Nice idea, BTW :yes:
EDIT : and it's with stuff like this that you realize how rich the FreeSpace universe has become during only a few years !
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New picture with strikecraft uploaded. It also has ships of similar size but different class in there too because I had too much spare space.
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The thing I've always liked about Steve-O's fighters is that he paid attention to scale. It always kind of bugged me in FS2 how a Herc II, which is much more heavily armored and can carry far more missiles, isn't actually any larger than a Perseus. Now, if we could just get lods for Steve-O's ships, they would be perfect. :drevil:
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Well, most of his ships also need resmoothing, a uvmap instead of a tile texture, and model optimizations.
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Well, most of his ships also need resmoothing, a uvmap instead of a tile texture, and model optimizations.
They don't need resmoothing anymore.
I fixed em all. You just don't have them! :D
Correct on the other accounts though.
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Wow nice work Hades - that's pretty comprehensive. Stuff like the rayanor is a lot bigger than I remember, and far out how massive would a seraphim in real life look. o_o
And lol @ the hecate that looks like it's being eaten by a preying-sathantis. :D
(And OW MY EYES we need a new boadicea)
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Thanks. :)
I started this at first out of boredom, but I actually did more and more because it's a useful resource for all kinds of modders- modelers and FREDders especially. A modeler can look at it and go 'Oooh I want my ship to be similar in size to that one!' or when they want to make a ship which is, say, a frigate or super destroyer which have ill-defined sizes. A FREDder can look at it and go 'I need a ship more this size instead of that.'
I still need to do the industrial (freighter, transport, etc) comparison and then the BP one is done. Not to mention I feel it's not comprehensive enough, I want to do as many ships from both games (fan and canon) as possible and have a list of size of meters.
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At least include the original Apocalypse (http://mt.hard-light.net/mods/tfdxapocalypse01beta.zip).
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I had used the reskined Blue Planet version because I had originally done these for BP, hence why it was moved from their forum. I wouldn't mind doing it with the original, I just need to make a TBM out of its table.
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what
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http://filesmelt.com/dl/dembigjugs.png (http://filesmelt.com/dl/dembigjugs.png)
Who made that ship in the middle that looks like a Human Siege Driver DN from Sword of the Stars?
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Vengence made it back in 2007, I believe. The name is 'GTVA Titan' and you can find it on FSMods.
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New shot up. Never realized Axem's Creth was so small.
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The Garm looks rather large, but that's because it looks like a Fenris/Leviathan.
The Lilith also seems tiny there! I mean, I knew it was a cruiser and so wasn't very big, but seeing it compared to the other cruisers makes it all the more threatening, what with that huge beam cannon.
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What's the blue ship in the center of that last shot?
The Lilith also seems tiny there!
That's always sorta bugged me about the Lilith. I mean, if they can fit an LRed and an adequate power supply into a Lilith, their destroyers could have dozens of the things. The same thing applies to the Mjolnir, though. If Mjolnir beams are that small, the GTVA should rip out every beam cannon it has and replace them with Mjolnirs.
Back on topic, does anyone know if Esarai's frigate and this other new ship are being used in any mods?
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Back on topic, does anyone know if Esarai's frigate and this other new ship are being used in any mods?
Yes.
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The blue ship in the center is the Emperor, also made by Esarai.
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http://filesmelt.com/dl/dembigjugs.png (http://filesmelt.com/dl/dembigjugs.png)
Who made that ship in the middle that looks like a Human Siege Driver DN from Sword of the Stars?
Oh neat! I didn't know that ship still circulated around hehe! Yeah it is a Siege Driver DN, I bought SOTS recently, and boy was my scale way off.... by a magnitude of 10x. In any case its a resource now, go nuts.
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I think it was uploaded to Hades Combine back in the day, even. >_>
Several people do use it in their mods, too.
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http://filesmelt.com/dl/dembigjugs.png (http://filesmelt.com/dl/dembigjugs.png)
Who made that ship in the middle that looks like a Human Siege Driver DN from Sword of the Stars?
Oh neat! I didn't know that ship still circulated around hehe! Yeah it is a Siege Driver DN, I bought SOTS recently, and boy was my scale way off.... by a magnitude of 10x. In any case its a resource now, go nuts.
By scale being off you mean a SotS DN only being as large as a FS cruiser? :D
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I heard 600-800 meters. Still, in a way, it easily outclasses a modern aircraft carrier soooo.... yeah >_>. When I was modeling it it wasn't because of the siege cannon but a small additional idea where the front of the craft is made of modular weapon bits where it can afford to be ripped off and replaced with ease. Admitably I should have done a better job at making this more original XD, but that was years ago. I am a lot better now.
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No, around 270m actually. A SotS destroyer is only 30m long give or take (around the size of a Boanerges or Medusa), with cruisers being 3x that at 90m (a little smaller than a Satis), and dreadnoughts being 3x cruisers at 270m approximately, which is the size of an Aeolus.
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Or an Iowa BB. Interesting.
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Hey what's that blue striped ship in the centre of the last screenshot?
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The blue ship in the center is the Emperor, also made by Esarai.
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What is the fighter in top left corner, second one from the top (below Wraith)? It looks like a part of Federal fighter pack, but I'm quite sure that this fighter wasn't in that pack.
BTW I see no Federal fighter pack Thor fighter.
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No, around 270m actually. A SotS destroyer is only 30m long give or take (around the size of a Boanerges or Medusa), with cruisers being 3x that at 90m (a little smaller than a Satis), and dreadnoughts being 3x cruisers at 270m approximately, which is the size of an Aeolus.
Haha thanks for the correction! I forgot that bit. How the heck do they stuff 20 people into those destroyers? They say in SOTSII the new Leviathans are 3x larger than the DNs too, making them 810m? Close but no cigar! An Orion is still much bigger.
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What is the fighter in top left corner, second one from the top (below Wraith)? It looks like a part of Federal fighter pack, but I'm quite sure that this fighter wasn't in that pack.
BTW I see no Federal fighter pack Thor fighter.
War in Heaven includes a couple fighters that were made by Steve-O but not included in the FFP, the Izra'il/Banshee and Vajradhra/Hellraiser. Similarly, since these shots were originally BP-themed, the Thor is not included as it was not used in War in Heaven.
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No, around 270m actually. A SotS destroyer is only 30m long give or take (around the size of a Boanerges or Medusa), with cruisers being 3x that at 90m (a little smaller than a Satis), and dreadnoughts being 3x cruisers at 270m approximately, which is the size of an Aeolus.
How the heck do they stuff 20 people into those destroyers?
Very tightly.
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If you want all the Steve-O stuff with their own textures: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/126554/FS2/steve-o.7z
Note that these are NOT the optimized/smoothfixed ones. So...use at your own risk!
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The blue ship in the center is the Emperor, also made by Esarai.
so... is it up for download somewhere (along with the other red one), or have they been snatched up by a project like BP?
[EDIT] And the Horizon, for that matter. None of them are on FSMods or anywhere else from what I can tell.
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The blue ship in the center is the Emperor, also made by Esarai.
so... is it up for download somewhere (along with the other red one), or have they been snatched up by a project like BP?
BP makes a concerted effort not to keep any exclusive models. As far as I know all of our complete assets during R1 development were shared or open.
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Well, the ones I mentioned aren't on FSMods or the user-made ships Wiki page (although I know the Horizon is/was up for download- it's just the insanely high-poly one with all the substructure). I looked through the forum search, but honestly I don't expect that to turn up anything. Anyone know where I can get these?
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Well, the ones I mentioned aren't on FSMods or the user-made ships Wiki page (although I know the Horizon is/was up for download- it's just the insanely high-poly one with all the substructure). I looked through the forum search, but honestly I don't expect that to turn up anything. Anyone know where I can get these?
You can't yet.
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Shocked by how big the Aten still is, always thought it to be much smaller.
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Decided to bump this with a cleaner layout for retail-only ships. You may notice something new or two ;)
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The Amazon is... rather large. And when I first saw them, I noticed that almost all the Vasudan strikecraft are about the same length, but that seems to be common to all three species' strikecraft. At least the fighters, anyway.
Mephisto, Ma'at, Bes and Poseidon are also very similar in length. And so are most of the destroyers. :p
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High-Poly Hades & Colossus!
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High-Poly Hades & Colossus!
Yes! At last.
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It just goes to show how skewed a persons sense of scale can get with no fixed reference points, for example I knew the Ursa and Seraphim were huge but I didn't realise they compared to the FS1 freighters like that.
The size difference between the transports is quite remarkable as well
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It just made me realize how tiny the Lucifer, boss ship of FS1, mighty invulnerable Shivan mothership, is compared to the Vishnan Preserver. :shaking:
Hmm...anyone care to upload Inferno ships? Lots of huge ships there, Vinaashak, Gigas, Icanus (both bigger than the Preserver, just about as long, but obviously wider), perhaps even the long-awaited Gargant, notorious for its utter invincibility. Oh, and I forgot to mention the Pyrgos. Is it to be released in ASW? (the Pyrgos apparently is in the mainhall).
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I always thought the hades was about the same size as an Orion, but its actually a fair bit larger
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figure i might as well post all nukemod ships with some retail ships for reference.
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i left out the dante because it managed to make the original post. needless the say the above image could fit snugly between its arms.
this is certainly a good way to debug scale, i see at least four ships there that are either too big or too small.
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Oh, and I forgot to mention the Pyrgos. Is it to be released in ASW? (the Pyrgos apparently is in the mainhall).
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High-Poly Hades & Colossus!
I spy the Taurvi, Seraphim, and Artemis in there as well.
Also noticed that the retail Hippocrates is missing
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It just made me realize how tiny the Lucifer, boss ship of FS1, mighty invulnerable Shivan mothership, is compared to the Vishnan Preserver. :shaking:
Hmm...anyone care to upload Inferno ships? Lots of huge ships there, Vinaashak, Gigas, Icanus (both bigger than the Preserver, just about as long, but obviously wider), perhaps even the long-awaited Gargant, notorious for its utter invincibility. Oh, and I forgot to mention the Pyrgos. Is it to be released in ASW? (the Pyrgos apparently is in the mainhall).
Seconded
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It just made me realize how tiny the Lucifer, boss ship of FS1, mighty invulnerable Shivan mothership, is compared to the Vishnan Preserver. :shaking:
Size doesn't automatically determine power, it's silly to think otherwise.
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I knew the behemoth was big but i didnt realise it was THAT big!
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I'm actually more suprised at how huge the midway is
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Can anyone point out what the two ships are, on the first page, on the very first post, directly behind the Ashema, Manticore, and Horus?
Also, are these ships high-res/high-poly? And if so, where can I download them at?
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That would be the GTF Nyx, GTF Draco, and GTF Atalanta from Blue Planet.
The originals were the GTF Ezekial, the GTF Draco, and the TF Kvasir
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WTF the TC-TRI/SAC-1 is bigger than a Fenris?
wow....
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sometimes you need to move big parts for big ships.