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General FreeSpace => FreeSpace Discussion => Topic started by: bahijal74 on September 12, 2010, 11:00:58 pm
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TO ANYONE..PLEASE READ AND TAKE SERIOUS PLEASE JUST HUMOR ME AND KNOW I MEAN NO INSULT OR ATTACK JUST GIVE THIS A CHANCE. JUST ONE AT LEAST.
So...I have been spending the last few hours trying to figure out WHERE I want this topic.
Now I am putting this here to ask and find out something. What I am bringing up may make no sense to some and may even be in the wrong place.
here I go though: (grammar nazi's eat your heart out)
My name is Matt, known as obviously Bahijal74, I came to Hard Light Productions a year maybe two ago when i Got the game of my childhood, the one I remember never being able to find for years, on GOG.com. I still have yet to figure out how many days i was still smiling. You know what came next. Finding This community only took an extra 2 days. I played DFS: TGW over and over again..sometimes cheating for the hell of it sometimes being an actual gamer.
I never loved any other game more. I remember begging my dad to get FS2 in best buy back in 2000. it was the last copy i still remember how sad i was. I knew that game was good i felt it in my BONES. I always looked for it looked at every back end game shop hoping to find a cd.for almost 8 years I searched often as I could. That was my search. Now i Have this game.almost 2-3 years now. Ive been a small time part of this community (i read more than I post..causes me less harm lol) but Love it all the same. If the world of gaming turned their eyes to some of us, they would find IMMENSE talent. but if they took that from us, would we still be able to thrive?
Until recently I thought you had to have good hardware the right software to be one of the respected. I am not a great flyer..hell I have trouble on normal in most games. I am an animator without his computer. I can't draw unless its with a lot of work. I can program but only if I know where to start. I only know that I am here and welcomed because I love a game that is absolutely brilliant.
No.
I love 3 games (if you count ST) that are BRILLIANT. and what I see now is talent..those who have it....and those who either do and can't use it...or who have no way they know o fto contribute to this place....I want to mod...but I can't fred i worked on it hard as i could..but I just can't get it down. I can animate but not draw..i cant make new models even if i could my computer can't handle high res....and so on.
Until today..until i saw the new project Journey to Hiigara..I was about to become the many who just wait for the new things....I want to be a part. I may have nothing i can do but damnit.this community is about an OPEN SOURCE a PUBLIC game code. maybe its not enough to just put guides...
I see often now..and sadly see....how we take criticism soemtimes..myself included usually bout my grammar and spelling. Maybe we need that maybe we should...I don't know..but the community for this great game has lessened somehow....Your welcome to yell at me..I want you to.
I want to be shown this community AS A WHOLE not just one or two or 50 veterans.
I want to be proven wrong by the COMMUNITY.
What wasyour search..waht made you love this game...before..during and after...and why are you a part of this community still...tell the world why your here what brought you here..
We are all a part of HLP.... Maybe it's time we introduced why and if we can't if YOU can't figure it out...maybe that should tell you something. We need to be more...no more waiting on dead projects or for someoen else to do it..but instead set something up just...more this place is dying.and i know many may disagree after all im a lowly guy..i have no obvious post count no special name..nothing fantastic..but I love thisplace..I love this game...And sometimes its the outsiders who have the best view of the inside.
NOW ON ANOTHER NOTE!
please for the community..no matter who you are let it be known...please:
I am a lowly gamer no post count barely enough skill to mod yet.
I went through all that for this game...My friend RIP MIKE brought up th eidea we could do something with it using the SCP. Until now I have been complacent about the promise to mod. We wanted to mod this game together and I intend to make something now.
This i smyy motivation for staying for doing this. I am an idiot about this stuff but yeah.
So 1.
What did you go through to get these games? Did it influence your life?
If it did how?
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What brought you too HLP. What was This place to you then?
and 3.
What do you see HLP as now? does it have apart in your life or Do you just stay for the mods? or ANYTHING?
Please.....I make this to hope I can help some see what i see..
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Go to the Forum Stats page.
Look at the member join rate and topic post rate. We had more new members join last month than we have had since 2006. This is probably in no small part because of the release of three excellent campaigns.
Explain why you think it's dying again?
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Man, we're gonna ration your ellipses starting right now.
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Because How many people of all that are contributing to the experience o these games yes they are joining yes they are communicating but how many of them are like i seem. just around waiting and hey may as well join while I'm at. The feel of dying is from how until recently its been so...its hard to explain I'm sorry my vocabulary doesn't do it just..its...like..hmm maybe decaying would be better. I ran across a post by fury at one point..he brought up the fact that yes talent i s here....that you kusanagi an dother you are doing a lot to introduce people..it just seems like..there isn't enough of that. besides I'm curious to see why people are still here..why they feel like staying with HLP..is it the mods..the people or maybe they have forgotten. Tell me Battuta..before I am ABSOLUTELY murdered for this post and the entire HLP community.
Why do you stay. Spare no detail.. please let us all know whatever you can.
As you said partially, it isn't the only reason but its a major one if i am understanding "because of Three Excellent Campaigns."
Man, we're gonna ration your ellipses starting right now.
call me an idiot but that went STRAIGHT over my head.....
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I agree, this place is all sorts of awesome. I'm amazed by the sheer volume of creativeness in every corner.
Even the dead, dying, or comatose projects had a great deal in concepts at least.
The community in general is friendly and has a great sense of humor.
I keep hanging around to see what comes up next, or laugh at the next hilarious thread, and as inspiration to do some things of my own.
PS. I'm a self-proclaimed grammar nazi, but I've learned to forgive almost everything I see on the internet.
I do think your posts could benefit a great deal if you just slowed down when you type, or take a minute to read and redistribute spaces before hitting "post."
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I agree, this place is all sorts of awesome. I'm amazed by the sheer volume of creativeness in every corner.
Even the dead, dying, or comatose projects had a great deal in concepts at least.
The community in general is friendly and has a great sense of humor.
I keep hanging around to see what comes up next, or laugh at the next hilarious thread, and as inspiration to do some things of my own.
PS. I'm a self-proclaimed grammar nazi, but I've learned to forgive almost everything I see on the internet.
I do think your posts could benefit a great deal if you just slowed down when you type, or take a minute to read and redistribute spaces before hitting "post."
True...but think about this.....if people do come to defend this place..if all came that could...what will that do for the community..would it make it stronger or weaker? I know this post will get me slaughtered...also..you missed the end questions i think...it also would be nice to know why do people join..why do they stay with this community over all this time. and what brought them here...i explained what happened with me didn't i?
also I did say I love HLP i really do I loev almost every person involved with this community that i have met. I dislike not one person. I just..thought this might be important..and i care enough to see if this is an actual problem. so far i see 3 people who care about the community to great degree
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I explained above that I believe the spike in joins in August was due to War in Heaven, Wings of Dawn and Vassago's Dirge.
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Dude, use commas. Or some other form of punctuation than ellipses (...).
Also, what Batts said.
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Naturally, I think that would make it stronger, I'm sure. Things this big only die when nobody is interested any more. More people=more interest by definition.
As to the other question... I was drawn here initally by the Fate of the Galaxy project, and then coaxed out into the open by Blue Planet. I can't speak for anyone else.
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I explained above that I believe the spike in joins in August was due to War in Heaven, Wings of Dawn and Vassago's Dirge.
Exactly. I had a friend who sadly has passed who mentioned dthis place for its community though..for the chance to work with a great game that i love and learn to mod to do somehing cool. i have many reasons i'm still here.it isn't just the mods. so far though im glad to see your defending the place.It's a goo dthing to have.
lol i use ellipses whenever i stop thinking.
Naturally, I think that would make it stronger, I'm sure. Things this big only die when nobody is interested any more. More people=more interest by definition.
As to the other question... I was drawn here initally by the Fate of the Galaxy project, and then coaxed out into the open by Blue Planet. I can't speak for anyone else.
make any sense now? i won't point anything out until more people react to all of this.
lol thank you...so what made you decide to find freespace2 and did you just buy it form the shelf or did you have to wiat like me?
ok 5 people..
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I don't think the community is dying. If anything it's growing. We added 3 hosted projects this month alone and they aren't going to be the only additions this year I suspect.
From looking in the internals I can see that there are several of the big projects which are getting close to release. That's especially good when they are TCs as that draws people into the community who aren't FS fans yet (people like Scourge of Ages).
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I don't think the community is dying. If anything it's growing. We added 3 hosted projects this month alone and they aren't going to be the only additions this year I suspect.
From looking in the internals I can see that there are several of the big projects which are getting close to release. That's especially good when they are TCs as that draws people into the community who aren't FS fans yet (people like Scourge of Ages).
good.
Now..i kidna also wnated to have it so people can explain a lot of things too.im gonan edit this up make it readable and also explain the other purpose of this post in about half an hour ok?)
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lol thank you...so what made you decide to find freespace2 and did you just buy it form the shelf or did you have to wiat like me?
ok 5 people..
Oh, I think I see what you're getting at... I don't know where I got FS1+ST originally, I think my dad got it for me. I played it and enjoyed it, because I was already an X-Wing fan, then I forgot about it. Much later I heard there was an FS2, and I got that on eBay, played it a few times and forgot about it. THEN I found FotG (and SoL), and by extension FSO. Played FS a few more times with MVPs and forgot about it again.
THEN I decided that I needed to try some of those mods that Turey's downloaded for me, and at the top of the list was BP. The version I was using was old and didn't work, so I was forced to come to the forum proper to hunt down updated everything, and I decided to stay.
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lol thank you...so what made you decide to find freespace2 and did you just buy it form the shelf or did you have to wiat like me?
ok 5 people..
Oh, I think I see what you're getting at... I don't know where I got FS1+ST originally, I think my dad got it for me. I played it and enjoyed it, because I was already an X-Wing fan, then I forgot about it. Much later I heard there was an FS2, and I got that on eBay, played it a few times and forgot about it. THEN I found FotG (and SoL), and by extension FSO. Played FS a few more times with MVPs and forgot about it again.
THEN I decided that I needed to try some of those mods that Turey's downloaded for me, and at the top of the list was BP. The version I was using was old and didn't work, so I was forced to come to the forum proper to hunt down updated everything, and I decided to stay.
much better... And did it effect your life at all has it influenced you as a person.?
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much better... And did it effect your life at all has it influenced you as a person.?
In general, seeing what's been done and what's possible, it's boosted my creativity to a new high.
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much better... And did it effect your life at all has it influenced you as a person.?
In general, seeing what's been done and what's possible, it's boosted my creativity to a new high.
I edite dmy post hope it helps people get a better sense of both purposes here.
ok and what was differant from how you thought about HLP then to how you think of it now?
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In response to the original topic (the topic seems to have rambled a bit).
Back in 2003 or 2004, or sometime around that, I got FS2 (having been a long-time player and horrible n00b FREDder of FS1). I started lurking at HLP, which added to the moderately long list of communities I lurked at. On the whole, HLP was one of the few that I continually came back to, because it was a modding community rather than just a gaming community. I've always admired how the community operates, as it generally seems to be more mature than the other communities I've visited (yes, even in the flamewars. Well, parts of them anyway).
I started making missions (and when I say missions, I mean half-formed, badly FREDded nonsense filled with ignorant technobabble and drivel). I suffered from classic noob syndrome, and I didn't actually start posting for a long time because I was convinced I was going to make an epic campaign and show up just like Blaise Russel did. I had this epic plan for a 60-mission campaign with new ships and an answer to all of FS2's unanswered questions. I never got past the third mission, but it did serve to show me some great ship mods to use.
I downloaded Truespace 3.2 near the beginning and stumbled through some of the older tutorials from Volition Watch and Karajorma's FAQ. I never really made it past the GTC Great Big Cube until recently, when I made a crappy turreted cargo container thing that's on FSMods, and a few other models I haven't finished. I'm planning on getting more into texturing than modeling, however.
As I was FREDding one of my failed projects, I logged on to HLP IRC to ask a question, and after getting to know a few people there, I posted in a SCP thread about the new sound code, and I've been posting ever since. I still need to make a campaign that I feel is good enough to release to the community, which, given my perfectionist/pseudo-OCD tendencies, might not be for a while.
Overall, HLP and its earlier contributions (I'll never forget the first time I played Derelict) is what inspired me to be interested in game modding in the first place.
Also, FS1 > FS2 trolololololololol
[EDIT] On the "community is dying" discussion in IRC that seems to be linked to this topic, I have only one thing to say: New releases.
3.6.12 (FSO and MVPs), Wings of Dawn (the first original universe TC created entirely by one MODder- a true milestone), War in Heaven (an extremely immersive storytelling experience unparalleled by any other fan-made campaign, and in some respects the originals themselves), and Vassago's Dirge (a unique minicampaign with a compelling story and interesting gameplay aspects by a FREDding veteran).
If that's not progress, I don't know what is.
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EXACTLY!
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I searched "Free Space Game" on Google and found a "FreeSpace 2" page on the ubuntu french doc wiki
So i downloaded it (thinking it was complete free, as i was only looking at this wiki :s) along with FSPort and STR. Then played em in the right order. Of course it was great.
At the end of the page, it kindda said "Moar on hard-light.net !" so obviously i clicked.... and there i am.
I don't quite recall what it looked when i joined, even though that's just 10 months ago. Something like a bunch of veteran talking on modding forums with crazy coders at the next door.
As for why i'm still here...... well there's coolz stuff, and i just can't get to stop playing FS, and i found out that replaying missions in a loop on Insane is a good way to improve your piloting skills >_>
Plus, that's several months i'm waiting for Wings & Diaspora :cool:
And now for a sequel to Blueplanet and WoD too >_< damn you HLP!
Now about the 3rd question... i don't think i'm personally tied much to the HLP Board itself, i don't quite like forums actually. But no matter what happen to HLP, i'll stay onto the IRC channels - as i always was and will be some kind of IRC maniac >_>
Finally about influencing life i guess uh.....
i spent hours of retrying stuff, hours of reading posts, hours of trying to understand partial stuff in the source code (made me understand better how much complicated games and all the events and 'realtimes' check they involve too), hours of spitting nonsense on the forum and IRC, and finally, days of reading tvtropes because of The E.
Not to mention how i rose from a total-uber-noob (Dying on Very Easy FTW) to what i guess is medium-good player (Succeeding on some missions on Insane)
On a side note, you might have seen that i now make ultra extensive use of the D: smiley - which i discovered on HLP's IRC Channel too XD
So i guess FS kindda influenced me a lot >_>
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I searched "Free Space Game" on Google and found a "FreeSpace 2" page on the ubuntu french doc wiki
So i downloaded it (thinking it was complete free, as i was only looking at this wiki :s) along with FSPort and STR. Then played em in the right order. Of course it was great.
At the end of the page, it kindda said "Moar on hard-light.net !" so obviously i clicked.... and there i am.
I don't quite recall what it looked when i joined, even though that's just 10 months ago. Something like a bunch of veteran talking on modding forums with crazy coders at the next door.
As for why i'm still here...... well there's coolz stuff, and i just can't get to stop playing FS, and i found out that replaying missions in a loop on Insane is a good way to improve your piloting skills >_>
Plus, that's several months i'm waiting for Wings & Diaspora :cool:
And now for a sequel to Blueplanet and WoD too >_< damn you HLP!
Now about the 3rd question... i don't think i'm personally tied much to the HLP Board itself, i don't quite like forums actually. But no matter what happen to HLP, i'll stay onto the IRC channels - as i always was and will be some kind of IRC maniac >_>
Finally about influencing life i guess uh.....
i spent hours of retrying stuff, hours of reading posts, hours of trying to understand partial stuff in the source code (made me understand better how much complicated games and all the events and 'realtimes' check they involve too), hours of spitting nonsense on the forum and IRC, and finally, days of reading tvtropes because of The E.
Not to mention how i rose from a total-uber-noob (Dying on Very Easy FTW) to what i guess is medium-good player (Succeeding on some missions on Insane)
On a side note, you might have seen that i now make ultra extensive use of the D: smiley - which i discovered on HLP's IRC Channel too XD
So i guess FS kindda influenced me a lot >_>
i still die on very easy....and ive been playing 2-3 years
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To answer to your questions:
1. When I came visit my older cousin, I watched him play to his computer on X wing, then on Tie Fighter. I was amazed (I was 7 or 8, don't really remember). My very first PC video game was Mechwarrior 2 & X Wing vs Tie Fighter. I was 12 years old or 13. And since I love all subject related to space and futuristic content. Well, it was just simple for me. Freespace is a space sim shooter, so I could only love it. :) However, finding Freespace 1 and 2, in France ans specifically in Paris and his suburbs, was very challenging on day one. There wasn't enought copy in the surrounding retailers. However, I got one. :)
2. I found HLP because of Google. I was searching some news contents for Freespace 2. Like new campaigns, or new ships or whatever. At first, I discovered Sector Game then later HLP.
3. There's a great communty here. But I'm more interested about mods and how to enhanced the actual gameplay/visuals (fredding, and so on). :)
Now, I'm still talking about Freespace 2 when people search some space sim shooter with some modern visual, on several french forum. Plus, some friends and me, we've just opened a dedicated website for all kind of sci-fi video games (PC, X360, PS3 and so on).
If you can understand French, here the website I'm talking about: http://www.spaceanomaly.com .
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Because How many people of all that are contributing to the experience o these games yes they are joining yes they are communicating but how many of them are like i seem. just around waiting and hey may as well join while I'm at. The feel of dying is from how until recently its been so...its hard to explain I'm sorry my vocabulary doesn't do it just..its...like..hmm maybe decaying would be better. I ran across a post by fury at one point..he brought up the fact that yes talent i s here....that you kusanagi an dother you are doing a lot to introduce people..it just seems like..there isn't enough of that. besides I'm curious to see why people are still here..why they feel like staying with HLP..is it the mods..the people or maybe they have forgotten. Tell me Battuta..before I am ABSOLUTELY murdered for this post and the entire HLP community.
Why do you stay. Spare no detail.. please let us all know whatever you can.
As you said partially, it isn't the only reason but its a major one if i am understanding "because of Three Excellent Campaigns."
Man, we're gonna ration your ellipses starting right now.
call me an idiot but that went STRAIGHT over my head.....
:lol: :yes:
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I doubt it's dying. Actually, since this site, community and everyone here that are dedicated to keeping it alive started. It's just going back up.
All the ones that had the Original game from their childhood, would probably wanna try it out again, probably finds this page.
Well at least I did, because i KNEW there were a lot more fans of this game then me, and someone must have made some graphics improvement and mods. Voila, welcome to Hard Light Productions.
Actually Blue Planet campaigns acts like Freespace 3, which is awesome. Though Freespace 2 was clearly showing it had ended after you completed Freespace 2 Campaign and they wouldn't be making a Freespace 3.
Big credits to the creators and producers of Blue Planet. It's an awesome Campaign.
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There are many, many campaigns that pick up the story threads left from FS2's ending. BP, while one of the better ones, can not and does not make the claim to be FS3.
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having said that BP does start at a logical point for a FS3 if it was ever to be made to have started especially with the closing cutscenes from FS2 mentioning the Knossos research
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A little over a month ago I was digging around an old box of disks and came across my F2. "Oh yeah, this was a lot of fun. I wonder if it will work with Vista." A google search later I found this place and all those awesome upgrades and campaigns. It was a real piece of kismet finding those disks right when so many releases were happening. Now I'm learning how to 3d model. Who would have guessed?
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I like all claims about the community not dying, and in fact there's plenty of proof showing that it's alive and well, but it's somehow... different than before. Threads in General FreeSpace Discussion used to be focused on the Universe and the games, but things have changed a bit. There are so many new members, but they don't seem to be contributing to forum activity by creating discussions related to the FreeSpace Universe. Either those newcomers don't want to share their views on the Universe or they come here, play the latest campaigns and simply vanish. It's a bit sad, IMHO.
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The BP forums at least are thriving with universe-related activity, most of it driven by newcomers.
I, for one, have been talking about this stuff for ten years. After a point you realize that it's up to you to decide what to think, and the discussions are so calcified that they usually devolve into spouting dogma. I don't think any portions of our little sky are falling.
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I like all claims about the community not dying, and in fact there's plenty of proof showing that it's alive and well, but it's somehow... different than before. Threads in General FreeSpace Discussion used to be focused on the Universe and the games, but things have changed a bit. There are so many new members, but they don't seem to be contributing to forum activity by creating discussions related to the FreeSpace Universe. Either those newcomers don't want to share their views on the Universe or they come here, play the latest campaigns and simply vanish. It's a bit sad, IMHO.
thats kinda what i think....
im still afraid the e is gonna shoot me.
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There are many, many campaigns that pick up the story threads left from FS2's ending. BP, while one of the better ones, can not and does not make the claim to be FS3.
I didn't mean it should or claims to be a sequel to Freespace 2. But it Acts like one.
Right after you complete it, they say that we have defeated the shivans, probably forever. And when you destroy the knossos portal they say we have the req info to rebuild it.
BP starts at such a great point after that. The build one knosses of their own to finally return to earth.
And "probably" we had defeated the shivans forever was just his guessing. When they destroy the Star you see some juggernauts jumping out, and there were probably shivans still in the sol system or anyone connected to it after the ending of Freespace 1.
So, BP is the best and most professionally-like made to be a sequel to FS2. (Named FS3.)
I have seen many other campaigns that shows up after FS2 yes, but its just a saying. BP is the best one yet. And its only part one. War in Heaven is excellent to as part 2.
I like all claims about the community not dying, and in fact there's plenty of proof showing that it's alive and well, but it's somehow... different than before. Threads in General FreeSpace Discussion used to be focused on the Universe and the games, but things have changed a bit. There are so many new members, but they don't seem to be contributing to forum activity by creating discussions related to the FreeSpace Universe. Either those newcomers don't want to share their views on the Universe or they come here, play the latest campaigns and simply vanish. It's a bit sad, IMHO.
Threads in General FreeSpace Discussion, is just General.
And I think when it was not "diffrent" maybe a couple years ago, was because you didn't have to many new members, and most members this community had was very experienced in the game and many probably used FRED at least if not more.
Now it's really flourishing. So many new members, and most of those members are probably just FS2 Gamers because this is really beginning to show it self to many more ppl, and result in just more minor related topics to the Freespace Universe :P
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I like all claims about the community not dying, and in fact there's plenty of proof showing that it's alive and well, but it's somehow... different than before. Threads in General FreeSpace Discussion used to be focused on the Universe and the games, but things have changed a bit. There are so many new members, but they don't seem to be contributing to forum activity by creating discussions related to the FreeSpace Universe. Either those newcomers don't want to share their views on the Universe or they come here, play the latest campaigns and simply vanish. It's a bit sad, IMHO.
Mobius, if you don't like the fact that new members do not act like old members, and that communities tend to change over time, get used to it. Also, have you read this thread? It's all about one persons' "views on the Universe".
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:rolleyes:
People discussing the universe and/or games show a lot of interest over the whole series and give a real boost to campaign concepts and other things. I remember learning quite a lot from said discussions and also got a chance to realize that pretty much everyone here has his own Shivan/Ancient/NTF theory, which is definitely worth sharing.
Forum veterans no longer partecipate to such discussions because there's nothing more for them to discuss, so the "problem" here is that newcomers don't seem interested on sharing their views. Under that point of view, the community's frozen and I hope things will change in the future, perhaps with a flood of new theories about previously unexplained matters. :)
Just an opinion.
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Did I hear FS3?
*makes dramatic entrance: standing on a mountain waving a Derek Smrt flag with a epic look on my face*
Im still here guys. Just lurking lately. Anyone miss me?
As to the origional post,
wow that looked like my first post here.. mine was worse :drevil:
I am surprised that he received no flames. So quit saying 'im gonna get murdered' etc... no one made a move.
This forum is not dying, it has a great community.
Note one of his comments was not that most members dont post enough but that 'what if all the community learnrd a useful skill such as moding or freding etc'. I do intend on learning MODing or FREDing one day. I am learning Visual Basic now and it is programming... so I assume Ill be able to pick up FRED much easier.
EDIT: Why the edit?
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What's with all those people talking with funny colors ?
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It appears that Battuta is working on it.
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I am learning Visual Basic now and it is programming... so I assume Ill be able to pick up FRED much easier.
You will.
FREDding and coding are reasonably distant from each other and experience in one isn't that much help directly for the other but what a course in programming will teach you is how to think "If A has happened I want B to happen unless C is true" which is pretty much the majority of what you are doing when making events with SEXPs.
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Did I hear FS3?
*makes dramatic entrance: standing on a mountain waving a Derek Smrt flag with a epic look on my face*
Im still here guys. Just lurking lately. Anyone miss me?
As to the origional post,
wow that looked like my first post here.. mine was worse :drevil:
I am surprised that he received no flames. So quit saying 'im gonna get murdered' etc... no one made a move.
This forum is not dying, it has a great community.
Note one of his comments was not that most members dont post enough but that 'what if all the community learnrd a useful skill such as moding or freding etc'. I do intend on learning MODing or FREDing one day. I am learning Visual Basic now and it is programming... so I assume Ill be able to pick up FRED much easier.
Same here The E actually and others have helped me start learning ..well relearning then learning it again. I am slowly seeing I am wrong. Exactly what i wnat. and also AGAIN want to have new members see teh experiances this game has brought us and HLP and more NOT just that!
so again...I am glad not to be flamed. newcomers who see this will probbaly feel a lot more welcome due to this.
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What's with all those people talking with funny colors ?
So my post gets color-removed and the two others on this page dont? Why?
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I like the irony of Matth's being the only one. :nervous:
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So anyone else among the millions have any stories?
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im still afraid the e is gonna shoot me.
He should... This was a thinly disguised 'dying' thread.
There's certainly been enough of those to last a lifetime!
The next new person to post one should be auto-banned for a week IMHO.
Anyway, I stay cause it's WORTH staying. The day it's not worth it to me, I'm gone.
It's that simple.
FS2 is always improving in increments despite it's limitations.
Also the creative energy for such an old game is just as high as any community around for newer ones.
Seriously, does anyone have the balls to say to any modder here that their efforts are wasted?
Haters will always hate and the clueless will always judge before trying something out for themselves.
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And if you're good, you *might* get a visit from Carl!
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im still afraid the e is gonna shoot me.
He should... This was a thinly disguised 'dying' thread.
There's certainly been enough of those to last a lifetime!
The next new person to post one should be auto-banned for a week IMHO.
Anyway, I stay cause it's WORTH staying. The day it's not worth it to me, I'm gone.
It's that simple.
FS2 is always improving in increments despite it's limitations.
Also the creative energy for such an old game is just as high as any community around for newer ones.
Seriously, does anyone have the balls to say to any modder here that their efforts are wasted?
Haters will always hate and the clueless will always judge before trying something out for themselves.
well I have the balls...but if I said it it would be a very obvious lie. I don't like lying.
so far I've been proven wrong no?
heh.
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Errr...you don't have to be masochistic. How the hell are we supposed to "murder" you by simply correcting your grammar errors? :lol:
1. This forum isn't dying. And I don't think it will until we all die, and perhaps beyond that.
2. FreeSpace isn't a well-known game, so the community surrounding it is small, however isn't easily thrown away just like that.
3. What you're stating now isn't a problem. Not at all. Considering how great FreeSpace is for me, and for the rest of us, I don't think HLP (and FreeSpace, of course) will ever die down.
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Errr...you don't have to be masochistic. How the hell are we supposed to "murder" you by simply correcting your grammar errors? :lol:
1. This forum isn't dying. And I don't think it will until we all die, and perhaps beyond that.
2. FreeSpace isn't a well-known game, so the community surrounding it is small, however isn't easily thrown away just like that.
3. What you're stating now isn't a problem. Not at all. Considering how great FreeSpace is for me, and for the rest of us, I don't think HLP (and FreeSpace, of course) will ever die down.
IF THIS BIT LOOKS TOO LONG AND BORING MY BASIC POINT IS AT THE END.
Then good. I am gla dto be proven very wrong so far. I stand by the fact i THINK we could be a bit more of.. eh I can't think of a good word yet. still.
I do love HLP. I checked as best i could to make sure i never ever even seemed ot be saying otherwise.
to me I thought if i was wrong then A MASSIVE amount of people would hopefully come to prove me otherwise. and a good bit did. but to me its still only so many.
on top of that I really wasn't lying in my first post. I really had amassive change in my life partially thanks to fs2 and hlp. to me i would be mor ethan happy to share that with anyone who needs proof how amazing this game and what hlp an dothers have done with it and. well its a long list.
DOWN HERE!!!!!!!!!
I love HLP, I love that so far every person to post has defended the site.
I still wish more would post and say the same. I also wish more than that to know if I and a few so far are the only ones to know what all this meant to them. Those questions ARE NOT just to cover ass. They, to me, have a major importance themselves. i would go on but. i think that is strong enough i hope.
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Heh.
You should have been around for the ... oh, I forget the name now, but it was basically any thread that was deemed flamebait was tossed into this category called something like "looney bin"... a LOT of people got mad about that. And hollered. And raged. And life went on. That scared me; I thought the community was going to tear itself to shreds. But it didn't.
Ah... after some searching - it was called the "Padded Cell" :lol:
http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=46128.0
http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=46124.0
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Heh.
You should have been around for the ... oh, I forget the name now, but it was basically any thread that was deemed flamebait was tossed into this category called something like "looney bin"... a LOT of people got mad about that. And hollered. And raged. And life went on. That scared me; I thought the community was going to tear itself to shreds. But it didn't.
Ah... after some searching - it was called the "Padded Cell" :lol:
if im not mistaken both those are about setupds though. plus i am aksign abotu how HLP and FS2 has effected (is that the rigth one?) peoples lives