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General FreeSpace => FreeSpace Discussion => Topic started by: Jeff Vader on September 19, 2010, 11:05:44 am
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I think GOG died (http://www.gog.com/).
Edit: In case of more server failures:
Dear GOG users,
We have recently had to give serious thought to whether we could really keep GOG.com the way it is. We've debated on it for quite some time and, unfortunately, we've decided that GOG.com simply cannot remain in its current form.
We're very grateful for all support we've received from all of you in the past two years. Working on GOG.com was a great adventure for all of us and an unforgettable journey to the past, through the long and wonderful history of PC gaming.
This doesn't mean the idea behind GOG.com is gone forever. We're closing down the service and putting this era behind us as new challenges await.
On a technical note, this week we'll put in place a solution to allow everyone to re-download their games. Stay tuned to this page and follow us on Twitter and Facebook for updates.
All the best,
GOG.com Team
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Good night... sweet prince...
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:(
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(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:XMnnZinF3ktNIM:http://static.funnyjunk.com/pictures/ffffuuuu_colored.jpg&t=1)
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! :(
RIP GOG.com 2008-2010
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Dammit, that was not ok.
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Looks like the server is down, that's all.
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Looks like the server is down, that's all.
The page has changed again, but previously there was a statement about GOG being unable to continue to exist in its current form and that they're shutting down.
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Looks like the server is down, that's all.
No, there was previously a long statement about how they were shutting down. It's now overloaded.
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Cached (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:nXBEMyx6lXkJ:www.gog.com&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us).
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Aye, and it's back up. Quoted:
Dear GOG users,
We have recently had to give serious thought to whether we could really keep GOG.com the way it is. We've debated on it for quite some time and, unfortunately, we've decided that GOG.com simply cannot remain in its current form.
We're very grateful for all support we've received from all of you in the past two years. Working on GOG.com was a great adventure for all of us and an unforgettable journey to the past, through the long and wonderful history of PC gaming.
This doesn't mean the idea behind GOG.com is gone forever. We're closing down the service and putting this era behind us as new challenges await.
On a technical note, this week we'll put in place a solution to allow everyone to re-download their games. Stay tuned to this page and follow us on Twitter and Facebook for updates.
All the best,
GOG.com Team
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That's a pity, better make sure I've got downloaded any games I've bought, since you never know how long the replacement system is going to last...
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They seemed to be doing well. This is very strange.
EDIT: Just looked at their twitter, and saw this.
Sometimes it's really hard being DRM-free... hard to keep things the way they are and keep management and publishers happy :(
So they probably had issues with the publishers.
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Problem is, a lot of companies these days won't admit when they are in trouble until the very last minute. Maybe the profit margin isn't high enough when you specialise in cheaper games, maybe the GoG format was designed to purely fund a further project and this was planned all along. Problem is, there's no real way to tell.
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So now where do we send people to buy FreeSpace? :shaking:
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Heads up everyone!
As of right now, the GOG.com main page has the following announcement in there:
Dear GOG users,
We have recently had to give serious thought to whether we could really keep GOG.com the way it is. We've debated on it for quite some time and, unfortunately, we've decided that GOG.com simply cannot remain in its current form.
We're very grateful for all support we've received from all of you in the past two years. Working on GOG.com was a great adventure for all of us and an unforgettable journey to the past, through the long and wonderful history of PC gaming.
This doesn't mean the idea behind GOG.com is gone forever. We're closing down the service and putting this era behind us as new challenges await.
On a technical note, this week we'll put in place a solution to allow everyone to re-download their games. Stay tuned to this page and follow us on Twitter and Facebook for updates.
All the best,
GOG.com Team
Time to start looking hard for solutions on how to provide the FS2 game files so new players can also enjoy FS Open.
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already posted here (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=71647.0).
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Damn. Well, didn't see that one. As far as I'm concerned, this thread can be deleted then so it won't clutter up the forum. Sorry...
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So now where do we send people to buy FreeSpace? :shaking:
The old methods are the best methods. ;7
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Just see that... :(
It's a pity, I talked about GOG to many of my friends (even the VERY-not-english-speakers), how wonderful their system was, DRM free, blah blah blah... ****.
The team who owns GOG is the same than the team who create the game The Witcher and his sequel. Hope it would have no consequence :shaking:
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I just get a strange feeling the servers are going to end up being used for some kind of MMO :( That'd be a pity, there's always a market for retro games, but MMOs fall by the wayside on a weekly basis...
EDIT: Apparently they have hinted on twitter that the reason behind it is they were under so much pressure from companies over the DRM situation on the games.
http://twitter.com/GOGcom/status/24772660481
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Damn. Well, didn't see that one. As far as I'm concerned, this thread can be deleted then so it won't clutter up the forum. Sorry...
I'm not sure about that. This has special relevance to FreeSpace players who might not see the other thread otherwise, especially given its ambiguous title.
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Topics merged
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Three minutes, thirty three seconds of worthy music to commemorate this sad occasion with. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_ck7CGY-ag&fmt=18)
:blah:
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:eek2:
(http://www.cyker.net/Smileys/toons/Noooo.jpg)
:( :shaking:
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[12:49] <redsniper> ****!
[12:49] <redsniper> Where am I going to get all my good old games now!
[12:50] <mura> internet
[12:50] <redsniper> well yes
[12:50] <@chief1983> just as illegitimately as always
[12:50] <redsniper> but it was nice to have a legit, working copy of something
[12:50] <dsockwell> quite
[12:51] <redsniper> now it's back to torrent sites and monkeying around with Dosbox...
[12:51] <@chief1983> yeah guess so
[12:51] <redsniper> ****, we just can't have nice things :(
[12:51] <@chief1983> yeah the man keeps ****ing it up
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God damn it.
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http://www.nooooooooooooooo.com (http://www.nooooooooooooooo.com)
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I just get a strange feeling the servers are going to end up being used for some kind of MMO :( That'd be a pity, there's always a market for retro games, but MMOs fall by the wayside on a weekly basis...
EDIT: Apparently they have hinted on twitter that the reason behind it is they were under so much pressure from companies over the DRM situation on the games.
http://twitter.com/GOGcom/status/24772660481
That doesn't make sense though. If the people don't like the no-DRM choice, they shouldn't allow their games to go up on GoG in the first place. Bunch of hosers.
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I wonder which publishers...
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Hmm. Well, I... hmm.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=23418875&postcount=240
People, relax. It's just a marketing stunt. Worse one ever. I don't know who at CDP thought this was a good idea to drop the beta and go final in such manner, but he's a moron.
And yes, it is a stunt, CEO warned financial forums couple days ago to ignore what will appear on Gog site soon. .t. It's a mess overall...23rd there was supposed to be full blown conference (like the one in Spring, when they've shown Witcher 2 for the first time), but it was just annouced it won't happen and there will be online conference instead.
Anyway, bassicaly GoG is simply ending it's beta phase and going final, that's all. Some speculate it will get a standalone client too.
???????
I don't know if that's at all true, but if it is, it's messed up. Also kind of clever. But mainly messed up.
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That'd make sense, people will start paying more and devs would be able to say "that's all we were able to give you" if anybody complained.
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We shall see.
It will be a shame if CDP act like THIS. A site like GOG.com is (or was ?) quite unique, and it's a pity if they fall in such commercial like this.
Don't hit me, I know, it's the terrible law of the market, blah blah blah. But the way they were selling their games made their... hem... good flavor.
If I had the choice between a free -but maybe crippled with viruses- game and the same game I can own for a symbolic price, my choice is quickly made.
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To quote a wise man. . .
WHAT THE ****?
How did I miss this? I back up all my download only purchases by default luckily. This still pisses me off though.
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Few more sites confirming that it's just a marketing ploy. :mad:
I'm relieved but annoyed at whoever thought such a stupid thing was a good idea. I was genuinely scared when I read that it had closed and then found that message on their site! :shaking:
They should have waited for April 1st! :lol:
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Well, if it is a marketting awareness thing, you have to admit, it did work...
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I'm not sure I'll buy from them again if this was a marketing ploy. It's pretty dirty.
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Ah balls.
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Here's a little bit of info from their PR guy:
GOG's PR man Tom Ohle has responded, saying, "As the message on the site says, this doesn't mean GOG is gone. We'll have more to share in the coming days. No need to jump to conclusions :)"
http://www.neoseeker.com/news/14926-digital-pc-classics-service-good-old-games-closes/
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My FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU still stands.
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Uh, if, hypothetically, they quit, would that mean that FS2 will be for free again, like it was before GOG?
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No, it wouldn't be "free", it'd be unobtainable. Everything is potentially "free" by the given definition.
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The whole thing does sound very fishy, especially since they had a few new game deals just about ready for release. Fingers crossed that this was all just an ill-advised PR stunt. There was a lot more stuff I wanted to buy on there. :(
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If it was, then I hope they stay DRM free.
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I'm a member of their facebook group and apparently there will be an official announcement tomorrow
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Add this to the [Gamers Bill of Rights]
Amendment #1: "No member(s) of the company will post misleading or outright false policy statements or actions designed to evoke a panic response as a 'marketing ploy' or a 'joke' (on company resources or acting in a official company member capacity while doing so) without serious administrative repercussions.
Some of such being: The identification of said individual(s), public apology by individual(s), and possibly even the termination of said individual for a gross misuse of authority and false representation of the company...
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Addendum to Amendment #1
1a: With the exception of April 1st.
Checks date. Nope 1a doesn't apply either.
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well that was unexpected.. :confused:
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Maybe they wanted to be pirates for a day?
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I'll have to read their original T.O.S. a little closer if I ever want to be able to play Aquanox.
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ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Don't panic. They might merge with Gamersgate or something...
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PR stunt. This annoucement fall just on their second birthday ? Fat chance. They announced they would go out of Beta and now this ? Fat chance.
PLus the number of double-entendre words in the annoucement :
Dear GOG users,
We have recently had to give serious thought to whether we could really keep GOG.com the way it is. We've debated on it for quite some time and, unfortunately, we've decided that GOG.com simply cannot remain in its current form.
We're very grateful for all support we've received from all of you in the past two years. Working on GOG.com was a great adventure for all of us and an unforgettable journey to the past, through the long and wonderful history of PC gaming.
This doesn't mean the idea behind GOG.com is gone forever. We're closing down the service and putting this era behind us as new challenges await.
On a technical note, this week we'll put in place a solution to allow everyone to re-download their games. Stay tuned to this page and follow us on Twitter and Facebook for updates.
All the best,
GOG.com Team
I believe they'll put the site back in a few days, and by the same occasion change some rules (the no-DRM rule ? the "two pricetags rule ?).
This really looks like a PR stunt, and a really stupid one :
- People become more aware that DD games are not as "safe" as retail games (since the service can be lost)
- People complaining with DRM often complains because they cannot download whenever they want. For the White Horse of DRM so far, shutting the service without prior notice is a bad move.
- Most (interested) gamers knew about GOG already - so they did not need (IMO) that move to get (much) better known. On the other hand, people are already talking about the alternative site to go to (www.dotemu.com), which was fairly unknown so far.
Note that those 3 arguments can be used to say that this is not A PR stunt after all.
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The way I see it, it can be either good news or bad news. More likely, both.
The Good
-FS2 will be f2p again, getting more people and hopefully multiplayer livelier
The Bad
-Drives away potential players as less likely people will 'discover' FS.
-Less $$ for the developers, even less chance of FS3.
I'm really torn on this one.
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Man, DotEmu have Another World! I'm so tempted to play that again!
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Only obtainable through illegal means isn't the same as free. People can download FS2 for free right now, and it's just as illegal as it would be if they couldn't buy it.
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If this is a joke, I will be seriously disappointed. This is not funny at all!!!
(Course, I'll probably still use the service. No other is quite as good)
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:eek2: Whaaaat?!?!?!? Hopefully this is just a publicity stunt... I suppose we'll find out soon enough. If not, tears will be shed.
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Is anyone at all able to get into GOGDownloader?
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Well, at least I want to know how many copies of FS2 have been sold from GoG...
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Well, at least I want to know how many copies of FS2 have been sold from GoG...
I believe it's consistently been in their Top 5.
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Yeah, I could notice that myself... but do we have accurate info on the subject?
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Ooh, an update:
UPDATE 20.09.2010
First of all, we apologize everyone for the whole situation and closing GOG.com. We do understand the timing for taking down the site caused confusion and many users didn't manage to download all their games. Unfortunately we had to close the service due to business and technical reasons.
At the same time we guarantee that every user who bought any game on GOG.com will be able to download all their games with bonus materials, DRM-free and as many times as they need starting this Thursday.
The official statement from GOG.com's management concerning the ongoing events is planned on Wednesday. If you want to receive further information about GOG.com, please send an email to [email protected] if you're a media representative or to [email protected] if you're a user without a GOG account.
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Clear as mud. I wish they'd just address the rumors of a publicity stunt directly. I'm really starting to freak out here...
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I wonder what they'll reply if we just asked about it on the adress they gave us.
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I almost wish it NOT to be a publicity stunt...I really liked GOG not only for what they had done but their INTEGRITY...and if its a stunt..that integrity is gone..... I want to remember gog as an idea that was great for games.
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Integrity my ass; They're a business first and foremost - We're just untapped capital to which they can sell obsolete games which cost them next to nothing. They're basically the gaming equivalent of used car salesmen.
But despite that, they're still the only major legal source of decent games which don't have DRM and I'd rather have them around than not, even if they are going to pull stupid stunts like this.
Like many ill-judged back-firing ideas, it probably sounded like a cool idea at the time (John Romero thought making you his ***** probably sounded like a cool tongue-in-cheek idea at the time too and we saw how that turned out! :P :lol:)
I think I'm more relieved than angry now that the initial shock is over!
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Question, whats " DRM free"?
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No protection (like Starforce), no Internet activation. Only a big file you can keep.
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Question, whats " DRM free"?
Which rock do you live under? Mine's basalt!
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Found this floating around the web. Says that they're just being bought out by Valve. Source (http://www.gram.pl/news_8QjrH,m6_GOG_wykupiony_przez_konkurencje.html)
I don't know which is worse, the company going under, or being bought out by Valve.
From gram.pl:
As we already know, GOG.com will continue to operate. It means that it's current users should not worry about their games. This whole mess is just a marketing stunt aimed to create buzz in the media before press conference scheduled for Wednesday.
That being said, we managed to contact our anonymous source close to the GOG staff. What we learned is that service is going to be bought by one of it's rivals - Steam, to be precise. Please keep in mind that it's not an official announcement and we advise you to take this information with a grain of salt.
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Don't be too quick to buy flour from the rumor mill.
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Can one hope?
Well, we'll see on Wednesday.
I'm going to go play the JAD deluxe now.
EDIT: Found this on the gog.com server. Its still there. What this means... I have no clue.
(http://www.gog.com/upload/images/2008/05/e1002e9268102206371e45b5bb625cf657b9187b_bb.jpg)
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It means...they haven't removed image files from their servers in the last few days? :p
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Hrm. If it were bought out by Valve I would not be wildly unhappy with that.
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While not ideal, it's not exactly the worst thing that could happen.
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Man, DotEmu have Another World! I'm so tempted to play that again!
Did you forget to take a loan of my copy at BBQ ?
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It's not so much the going-offline that bothers me, it's the lack of an announcement that "GOG.com will be going offline for the week of Sept 19-25 so get what you want now" that bothers me.
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This was just posted.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDRvuKjissQ
It doesn't really seem like a 'goodbye' sort of a video. Did I see Baldur's Gate in there?
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Yep.
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/me is wondering how people could have possibly caught that tiny flicker of the Baldur's Gate image. Unless they're obsessive enough to go through the video frame by frame. >.>
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/me is wondering how people could have possibly caught that tiny flicker of the Baldur's Gate image. Unless they're obsessive enough to go through the video frame by frame. >.>
Unless they read this article (http://www.neoseeker.com/news/14937-good-old-games-closure-is-site-relaunch-baldurs-gate-incoming/).
Says that not only was Baldur's Gate in that image, but so were "GOGmixes" which was apparently a promised feature when the site left beta.
This is looking more and more like an awful PR stunt, and frankly, if it weren't for the fact that the Freespace community owes [randomGuess]about half[/randomGuess] of their existence to the service, I'd never speak of it again.
Really, this is awful. I don't understand how else they thought people would interpret the phrase "We're closing down the service" (taken from THEIR ANNOUNCEMENT) other than "We're going away forever."
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Yeah, if they'd just said, "Hey, we're taking the site offline for a few days so that we can make some adjustments for the non-beta", everyone would have cheered.
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Meh, I don't see the point in getting all angsty about it. If it really was just a massively-stupid PR stunt, I'll gladly continue to buy games from them in the future. Granted, I'll probably make sure to back them up to DVD as soon as I buy them from here on out, but I'll be a happy customer regardless.
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at the end of the day if it all comes back online with the same products for the same price with the same lack of DRM what does it matter if they occasionally pull a stupid stunt like this????
has it affected your rights.???? no
so stop beating on them like some cold war communist attacking the capitalist system, if you have a beef with capitalism start a thread on it and take your hate there.
If you have a problem with the corporate culture start said thread about capitalism and rave on.
instead lets use this thread to keep everyone on hlp up to date with the latest on this situation
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at the end of the day if it all comes back online with the same products for the same price with the same lack of DRM what does it matter if they occasionally pull a stupid stunt like this????
has it affected your rights.???? no
so stop beating on them like some cold war communist attacking the capitalist system, if you have a beef with capitalism start a thread on it and take your hate there.
If you have a problem with the corporate culture start said thread about capitalism and rave on.
instead lets use this thread to keep everyone on hlp up to date with the latest on this situation.
And so we have no right to be angry about this as paying customers? This is not an innocent prank. If a PR stunt requires telling your investors not to panic (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://www.bankier.pl/forum/temat_re-info-od-cdp-male-podsumowanie-z-mojej-strony,8841141.html&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&twu=1) then you probably shouldn't do it. There are better ways to get publicity. They would have gotten just as much press if they had done what The E had said and announced the truth, and less angry customers.
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at the end of the day if it all comes back online with the same products for the same price with the same lack of DRM what does it matter if they occasionally pull a stupid stunt like this????
Yes. Customers were also getting peace of mind by buying from a company with integrity. If they can no longer do that, then they're only getting a game for their $6, which is less than what they got before.
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This was just posted.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDRvuKjissQ
It doesn't really seem like a 'goodbye' sort of a video. Did I see Baldur's Gate in there?
Looks like an ad.
at the end of the day if it all comes back online with the same products for the same price with the same lack of DRM what does it matter if they occasionally pull a stupid stunt like this????
Yes. Customers were also getting peace of mind by buying from a company with integrity. If they can no longer do that, then they're only getting a game for their $6, which is less than what they got before.
There's no such thing as bad publicity
I don't care about the company, I care about the game. Long as I get the goods I don't care who's selling it. If I did care the first thing I'd do is delete Steam from my computer, at least until those hosers at Valve make Episode 3.
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I'm stunned. If it wasn't for GOG I would never have re-discoverd FreeSpace or found HLP. While I'm not exactly wild about the possibility of GOG being bought by Steam. I'd rather they continue to exist in some form. Provided of course the DRM-free model is maintained. Somehow though, I don't see Steam leaving things as they are.
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Pretty sure it's not just a PR stunt, since it would be such a boneheaded move. Most likely there was some sort of legal/business problem that had to be dealt with NOW... although it looks like they're planning to get past it.
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For some reason I want to blame interplay...
I see their evil hand in it lol. Sad thing is i do want to yell at them for this.
On another note, I feel the integrity issue (whether or not it is ACTUALLY there) is that it felt as if they actually went that extra bit once in a while for their customers, and that to me is something (for ME at least) is not very common sometimes.
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For some reason I want to blame interplay...
I see their evil hand in it lol. Sad thing is i do want to yell at them for this.=
Interplay barely exists.
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Doesn't mean we can't blame them for everything from GOG's closing to the fact that they forgot the peanuts in my noodles this lunch time. :p
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For some reason I want to blame interplay...
I see their evil hand in it lol. Sad thing is i do want to yell at them for this.=
Interplay barely exists.
But they still do.
They shall always be a pain until they are gone or do something good. and there is only one deed that could make th elist.
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CONFIRMED AS HOAX (http://www.pcgamer.com/2010/09/22/gog-com-apologise-for-hoax-closure/)
They said that "As a small company we don’t have a huge marketing budget and this why we could not miss a chance to generate some buzz around an event as big as launching a brand new version of our website and even more important, bringing back Baldur’s Gate to life!"
They didn't know how much people loved them, I guess? Thats the most innocent response I can think of.
This goes WAY OVER THE LINE HERE.
Whatever. Mission accomplished. Return to base. :warp: *Freespace victory theme here*
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Wankers...
But yeah. I suppose the stunt being a hoax is a better option compared to them actually shutting down.
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Worst marketing ever? Worst marketing ever.
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Wankers...
But yeah. I suppose the stunt being a hoax is a better option compared to them actually shutting down.
I agree. I do hope whoever came up with this idea is fired. This has to be one of the bone headed marketing tactics I have ever seen. Maybe that was the point though. It certainly got our attention.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATNd4qbNTf8
Oh, I can't stay mad at you guys.
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Not watched the video.
But i'm glad they're still around and yes. I still love them like a nubile 19 year old.
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Really I think the video would inspire a lot more confidence if it didn't have a creepy dude breathing into the mic
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They are staying, that's enought I guess :yes:
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Well, I hadn't given them any money and now I'm never going to. Good job guys!
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Well, I hadn't given them any money and now I'm never going to. Good job guys!
D'you really think they care if you weren't a customer in the first place? :p
Anyways, good news. Now I can use my (hopefully-incoming-soon) moolah to buy all sorts of goodies from them again.
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Perhaps the thread title should be changed, so as not to continue rumors of mass panic.
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MASS PANIIIIIIIC!!!!!! :shaking: :hopping: :nervous: :lol:
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D'you really think they care if you weren't a customer in the first place? :p
In the current economy, they very likely do.
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Bah. They apologized but they could have handled this MUCH better. I didn't like the idea of purchasing stuff I would never receive.
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Well, it was a bit of a dick move but if they wanted more exposure, they got it.
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Big deal.
GOG still beats steam any day of the week and i'll still spend my dollars there.
Big hullabaloo by angry nerds over nothing.
People should be downloading their games as they buy them anyway
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Okay, having read the announcements, etc, why was everyone getting so damn upset about this?
They never said it was closing. People who read the article assumed that. Then people start condemning GoG on the basis of "saying it was closing is a stupid publicity stunt?"
Wat.
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Okay, having read the announcements, etc, why was everyone getting so damn upset about this?
They never said it was closing. People who read the article assumed that. Then people start condemning GoG on the basis of "saying it was closing is a stupid publicity stunt?"
Wat.
Dear Scotty,
After a great deal of struggle and thought, I've decided I just can't continue to live like this. It's really been hard for me, but I've decided I just can't carry on.
I really appreciate your friendship all these years. It's been really great.
This doesn't mean the values of Battuta are gone. But I'm putting this life behind me and moving on.
I've almost finished my will. Watch your inbox.
All the best,
Battuta
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(http://img2.moonbuggy.org/imgstore/orson-welles-clapping.gif)
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i agree with scotty. when i first read the original message, i immediately thought "site update" not "OMG ITS GOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNEEEEEEEEE!"
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Is it possible to upload the game in the internet??
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Wow, what a bunch of a-holes. Why would they pull crap like this? And here I was backing up my FS2 retail files onto an external hard drive...
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To be clear, I do think there's been a major overreaction to all of this, but Battuta's post deserved some classic applause. :p
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What appalls me about this entire situation now is why GOG.com chose to do it this way. When I saw the first message on the GOG website, I was led to believe that GOG.com was going to be gone for good. Then, a few days later, we find out that the site was took down momentarily because they were, in reality, going out of beta and re-launching.
This is a bad marketing stunt; you don't go out of beta by closing down without warning and saying "goodbye forever", you announce that you are going out of beta and you have to shut down the site for maintenance reasons. I can understand if they have initially decided to close it down forever, but pulling something like that without any kind of warning, or a hint that "it's not dead after all" is utter BS to me.
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Is it possible to upload the game in the internet??
Um, GoodOldGames is on the Internet.
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This is a bad marketing stunt; you don't go out of beta by closing down without warning and saying "goodbye forever",
Did you even read it? They never said "goodbye forever" or even some paraphrasing of that. Ever. People assumed that, and panicked about the sky falling down.
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This is a bad marketing stunt; you don't go out of beta by closing down without warning and saying "goodbye forever",
Did you even read it? They never said "goodbye forever" or even some paraphrasing of that. Ever. People assumed that, and panicked about the sky falling down.
Did you miss my last post?
Okay, I'll explain this with an even friendlier, simpler metaphor.
You run a business where you hold people's cars in your garage, as well as taking care of the keys. Your birthday's coming up. To celebrate, you decide to write a fake suicide note, leaving just enough room for interpretation that it's not technically 100%.
Then you go into hiding and pretend you're dead. Taking everyone's cars and car keys with you, denying them access to their property.
In order to get attention. Meanwhile everyone panics and mourns because your letter was phrased as a death note after you spent a while muttering on Twitter about how hard your life was.
Good one.
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The world still rages. :P
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Did you miss my last post?
Okay, I'll explain this with an even friendlier, simpler metaphor.
You forgot "inaccurate"
You run a business where you hold people's cars in your garage, as well as taking care of the keys. Your birthday's coming up. To celebrate, you decide to write a fake suicide note, leaving just enough room for interpretation that it's not technically 100%.
Then you go into hiding and pretend you're dead. Taking everyone's cars and car keys with you, denying them access to their property.
Howabout "you run a bookstore where people can buy books by phone and come down whenever they want to pick them up. Once a person buys a book, they can also come and get another copy of that same book any number of times free of charge. One day the shop is closed and posted on the door is a notice that sounds like you're closing up shop permanently. Suddenly, every idiot who bought a book and was too ****ing lazy to pick it up gets mad. But rather than get mad at themselves for being retarded, they get mad at you.
They get steaming mad despite the fact that the bottom of the notice says that any books purchased will be available by alternate means in a short amount of time."
So please, cut the melodramatics
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I see Akalabeth Angel doesn't think less of people if they try to act like drama queens just to get some attention.
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I see Akalabeth Angel doesn't think less of people if they try to act like drama queens just to get some attention.
It's just a business trying to build some publicity. So long as no one gets screwed out of any money who cares? The original notice stated CLEARLY that everyone would be able to get their games. No one was going to lose anything.
Who got hurt?
No one.
Like I said before, no such thing as bad publicity.
Everyone got in a huff about initially not getting free content for L4D when Valve was doing L4D2 instead, but months later every one of those nerds is probably still spending money on steam and still buying Valve products and waiting for Portal 2 and everything else valve craps out. And why? Because no one lost money, no one got hurt.
Same thing here.
People will still use GoG. Probably more people.
I'll still use it if I find a game I fancy.
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They get steaming mad
oooh i'm sensing some projection here
So please, cut the melodramatics
Let's set up a flow chart for you to follow!
1. You intend to address that to me. Go to Step 2!
2. You intent to address that request to GoodOldGames. You win!
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They get steaming mad
oooh i'm sensing some projection here
So please, cut the melodramatics
Let's set up a flow chart for you to follow!
1. You intend to address that to me. Go to Step 2!
2. You intent to address that request to GoodOldGames. You win!
Hmmn, no I'll pick.
3. I intend to address that to any "injured" and angry nerd who can't read a notice that clearly says they'll get their 5 dollar game regardless of how they interpret the preceeding paragraphs.
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3. I intend to address that to any "injured" and angry nerd who can't read a notice that clearly says they'll get their 5 dollar game regardless of how they interpret the preceeding paragraphs.
Where are all these injured angry nerds?
Meanwhile we can proceed with mocking GoG for pulling the equivalent of a seventh-grade 'I'M TRANSFERRING TO ANOTHER SCHOOL!' stunt.
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3. I intend to address that to any "injured" and angry nerd who can't read a notice that clearly says they'll get their 5 dollar game regardless of how they interpret the preceeding paragraphs.
Where are all these injured angry nerds?
Meanwhile we can proceed with mocking GoG for pulling the equivalent of a seventh-grade 'I'M TRANSFERRING TO ANOTHER SCHOOL!' stunt.
Everyone in this thread and on every other site who says 'oh, I can't trust their integrity. I'll never buy from them again.' I can't be bothered to quote them as I'm wasting time as it is.
Oh and btw, "mocking" is one thing, but "completely misrepresenting the reality of the situation by analogy" is something else.
And seventh grade or not. It worked.
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i'm going to again state that the original note never suggested to me that they were closing FOR GOOD. "cannot continue to exist in its CURRENT FORM." either nobody read that, or they were already raging by the end of reading the note.
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Ooh, I have another metaphor!
You have a girlfriend, and she's really great. She cooks sometimes, and she makes you little gifts that you trasure and keep in a shoebox under your bed. You know that she's making something for you that's really cool, and she promises you'll get it next week.
Then you find a note. "We can't go on this way. It just won't last. I'm sorry. Don't worry though, I'll leave your gift on your front door when it's done. See you."
You still have the memories, you still have the old things, you know you'll get the new gift. But the girl you thought would love you forever just wrote you a Dear John letter. You're hurt. And even when you find out she was just kidding, you still find it hard to get over the new distrust you have.
(The presents represent games)
EDIT: I don't really care, I just like making metaphors.
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Oh, honestly. They ****ed up. They know they ****ed up.
I think this is all a bit much.
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Ooh, I have another metaphor!
You have a girlfriend, and she's really great. She cooks sometimes, and she makes you little gifts that you trasure and keep in a shoebox under your bed. You know that she's making something for you that's really cool, and she promises you'll get it next week.
Then you find a note. "We can't go on this way. It just won't last. I'm sorry. Don't worry though, I'll leave your gift on your front door when it's done. See you."
You still have the memories, you still have the old things, you know you'll get the new gift. But the girl you thought would love you forever just wrote you a Dear John letter. You're hurt. And even when you find out she was just kidding, you still find it hard to get over the new distrust you have.
(The presents represent games)
EDIT: I don't really care, I just like making metaphors.
Well, if it turned out the present was *her* on the front door wearing, say, nothing but a gift wrapping ribbon, I'd totally forgive her ;7
But yeah, they're not going away, it is all a storm in a teacup.
What we have learned here is that gog are a bunch of prankers :lol:
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At first I was concerned that GOG was actually shutting down. Yes, the wording had holes in it, but SOME PEOPLE did get the impression that they were going to stop doing business. No, this is not a matter of who's right and who's wrong. Different people react and interpret in different ways.
Then, with the rumors, I was concerned that they were doing some major structural changes, like giving up on the "no DRM" policy. (What with them not being able to continue in their current form and all.)
All the time I was angry at them for closing the site without advanced warning. Not polite towards paying customers. Sort of like if you went to a store only to find out that the doors are locked and there's a note saying "Oh, sorry. We're closed now, you know. Because we can. **** you."
Is it possible to upload the game in the internet??
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Did you even read the thread? Or are you just generally inquiring if someone would be willing to upload "the game" (FS2?) on the internet?
As a side note, yes: it is possible to upload "the game" on the internet.
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Wait. People are defending their stunt?
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dont know about defending the decision but to be hones I couldn't care less, its happened, they are back in an hour and 3/4 according the clock on the site, big whoop we have all seen or heard of companies pull more stupid stunts and it not make a big impact on their public image. give it 3 months tops and it will just be a bad memory only occasionally thought of due to its long term insignificance
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3. I intend to address that to any "injured" and angry nerd who can't read a notice that clearly says they'll get their 5 dollar game regardless of how they interpret the preceeding paragraphs.
Where are all these injured angry nerds?
Meanwhile we can proceed with mocking GoG for pulling the equivalent of a seventh-grade 'I'M TRANSFERRING TO ANOTHER SCHOOL!' stunt.
Everyone in this thread and on every other site who says 'oh, I can't trust their integrity. I'll never buy from them again.' I can't be bothered to quote them as I'm wasting time as it is.
Oh and btw, "mocking" is one thing, but "completely misrepresenting the reality of the situation by analogy" is something else.
It sure is something else. Something that hasn't happened yet!
And seventh grade or not. It worked.
It's true, it worked!
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On a related note, the new site seems to be up and running.
Edit: Sort of. Too much stress from angry customers or something.
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Are you sure it's angry customers or because GoG has a lot of followers?
It could even be both, actually.
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Like I said before, no such thing as bad publicity.
This made me remember that Futurama show where Fry got some sneakers commercials on his dreams, and then I lol'd.
I agree with Akalabeth, there's no such thing as bad publicity, there's offended viewers...but not bad publicity, you can still choose not to care.
At least until I got some publicity implanted directly into my head, then I'll say that's BAD PUBLICITY.
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I kind of feel like locking this in a blatant display of mod abuse, because I'm kind of getting sick of reading it. :p
Oh, and if this (http://www.gog.com/en/news/the_launch_slightly_delayed/0) is any indication, it looks like any publicity really is good publicity.
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I kind of feel like locking this in a blatant display of mod abuse, because I'm kind of getting sick of reading it. :p
Oh, and if this (http://www.gog.com/en/news/the_launch_slightly_delayed/0) is any indication, it looks like any publicity really is good publicity.
in my homeland they say, birds of a feather lock together
(will unlock at first angry report)