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General FreeSpace => FreeSpace Discussion => Topic started by: AlienTermite on September 29, 2010, 03:25:50 pm
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Article here (http://pc.ign.com/articles/101/1011624p6.html).
Not much, but it's cool to see the game get some recognition.
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cool, nice to know the critics still vouch for the game
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I just saw this and figured someone would have beaten me to it. Regardless its awesome that it still has such respect
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Cool. But they always forget the SCP :hopping:
But nice that ppl recognize the original game :)
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The place that a OMGWTF*Explosion*-game deserves, but rank 21 is to low I think.
BTW really nice that they remember this game.
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Well, the fact that it's still considered "Modern" is pretty cool :P
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Well, the fact that it's still considered "Modern" is pretty cool :P
Especially since it didn't make 2009's list.
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Well, the fact that it's still considered "Modern" is pretty cool :P
Seconded
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Well, the fact that it's still considered "Modern" is pretty cool :P
Seconded
Likely because nothing decent has come from the space genre in a long time since FS2.
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Cool. But they always forget the SCP :hopping:
On the other hand, when someone googles "Freespace 2" the first hit is the retail games Wikipedia page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeSpace_2) which has a link to the SCP wikipage. Second is the SCP Wikipedia page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeSpace_2_Source_Code_Project). Third is the SCP home page (http://scp.indiegames.us/). Forth is Hard Light's Freespace wiki (http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page). Fifth is a Youtube video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HFEmGcJcWA) that links gog.com's Freespace 2 page; the video's description also pimps FS2Open 3.6.9 and the SCP.
Personally, I think we are covered. Though it would have been nice if they gave a shout out to the modding community.
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Well, the fact that it's still considered "Modern" is pretty cool :P
Especially since it didn't make 2009's list.
It would have fit in better on the 2009 list though:
#25 Falcon 4.0
#24 Diablo
#23 Doom
#22 Unreal Tournament
#21 Deus Ex
#20 Grim Fandango
#19 Fallout
#18 System Shock 2
#17 Crysis
#16 StarCraft
#15 Command & Conquer
#14 Company of Heroes
#13 The Sims
#12 World of Warcraft
#11 SimCity
#10 Call of Duty
#9 MechWarrior 2
#8 Rome: Total War
#7 Sid Meier's Pirates!
#6 Half-Life
#5 Battlefield 1942
#4 Baldur's Gate II
#3 Civilization IV
#2 Star Wars TIE Fighter
#1 X-COM: UFO Defense
XD
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I was thinking, if steam starts selling the game and offers SCP as a free upgrade, it may bring new life to Freespace 2.
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I can see them selling the game. SCP as free upgrade? I wish. Does GoG offer it as a free upgrade? Nope. :ick: I think it boils down to support. But they should still put something saying "Can't get enough FreeSpace? Go here (http://about:blank)!
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I can see them selling the game. SCP as free upgrade? I wish. Does GoG offer it as a free upgrade? Nope. :ick: I think it boils down to support. But they should still put something saying "Can't get enough FreeSpace? Go here (http://about:blank)!
That has different reasons. Note that they DO advertise us in a few places.
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I'm not sure the SCP can ever be used in a way that constitutes earning money, given the conditions of the source code release. I may be overinterpreting the strictures, though.
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Its the sort of thing that it is best to be on the side of caution
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I'm not sure the SCP can ever be used in a way that constitutes earning money, given the conditions of the source code release. I may be overinterpreting the strictures, though.
No, that's entirely correct. GOG or Steam can't bundle FSO with FS2, since if they would do that, it could be construed as making profit off of the FSO source, which would violate the FSO Source license.
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Then they would have to make SCP it's own "game"? And link to it from the FS2 page? Two separate downloads... one might influence how many people buy the other, but still, I don't think that'd technically be "making money" from it.
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the problem is some lawyer 'might' find an idiotic way to say that it does mean they are making money from it and because of that I'ts a risk not in the interest of GOG or any other organisation as it might cost them more than they will ever see from sales of the game
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No really, yeah they cant buncle FSO with FS2, BUT, they could sell FS2 and have a separate "game" called FSO "expancion" pack for free, they already do that with some games, just ist free.
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You know what some people are like - they'd find a way, somehow, despite the bounds of your denial...as stated by "i dont use punctuation lol" guy ;) It'd be good for the whole SCP/HLP community if they could do that without a highish risk. Are they allowed to say, link to HLP SCP page as "free community content", or same issue?
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As far as I understand it, they would do that if HLP was an "official affiliate" of GoG. As it is, the fact that they have a nice editorial where they talk about us, the fact that said editorial is linked to on the FS2 page, and the fact that their FS forum is full with links to HLP should be enough.
Now, the obvious next question would be, "Why aren't we an affiliate?"
Okay, I do not know the full story here, so a truckload of salt should be taken, but IIRC, the affiliate agreements HLP would have to sign were unpalatable. Someone even mumbled about a "All your code are belong to us" clause in there.
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Forget GoG, its nothing like Steam...
I already own a copy of Freespace 2 in a Box, that i brought back in 1999... ill more than happily buy FS2 again if it were on steam...
Just imagine FS2 on steam, with FSO as a free community expancion pack, with steam archivements for medals and some other crazy stuff that it could be added... it will requiere a lot of work(mostly on pilot stats sid, and the whole game needs to be intregrated with steam), but it will be impressive.
I dont see why not, even if the full game were free, they will be happy to have a new free game, its a good way to catch customers, personally i first installed steam to play a free game called "Alien Swarm" with some friends, now i own another 5 games on steam...
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ShivanSpS the issue with that, and really, I think the ultimate reason that HLP is not a gog.com partner (the real reason(s) I am not privy to either) has to do with this:
/*
* Copyright (C) Volition, Inc. 1999. All rights reserved.
*
* All source code herein is the property of Volition, Inc. You may not sell
* or otherwise commercially exploit the source or things you created based on the
* source.
*
*/
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According to that, the source code (including everything the SCP have done with it) belongs to :v:. AFAIK that means they can sell it and commercially exploit it all they like.
I have no idea what kind of royalties :v: make from FS2 but even if they don't make a penny they might still want to FSO bundled with the GoG download just for the extra publicity it would get them.
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So WE should partner with :v:
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So WE should partner with :v:
The only problem is that Interplay still owns the distribution rights for the Freespace brand.
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G4 should include Freespace and FSO in their "Games for Cheap Bastards" segment. I'm amazed that they haven't already. They don't even have the box art for Freespace's listing on their site. I think I have an angry email to send. :mad:
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So WE should partner with :v:
Members of :v: used to post on this forum in the past. If an affiliation with them was that easy, they would have brought it up back then.