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Title: Wings of Dawn 2
Post by: Spoon on November 01, 2010, 03:54:43 pm
Yes, work on a sequel has started.
At this point, it is mostly model and effects creation along with a rework of the tables. In other words, getting the basic framework/foundation ready.
Release is still a long long way off, but I'm sure the wait shall be worth it! There are some great ideas in the pipeline.
Or at least, so I would like to think

(http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/8743/72532023.png)
(http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/4361/84138608.png)
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Snail on November 01, 2010, 03:55:41 pm
AWESOME
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: -Norbert- on November 01, 2010, 04:25:37 pm
Is that a Fura'ngle bomber? Certainly has an odd kind of charm... but why is it fighting against LSF ships?
Traitors still loyal to the Hertak? Some diplomatic disaster? Or maybe just showcase  :P
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Snail on November 01, 2010, 04:36:57 pm
It might not be a chronological sequel, it could be happening concurrently with the events of WoD...
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: General Battuta on November 01, 2010, 04:41:55 pm
Spoon you are brilliant but those were about the two ****tiest screenshots you could've picked. Look at the composition! Half of them is empty space! Center your subjects, Junior Photographer Third Class!
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Jellyfish on November 01, 2010, 04:47:14 pm
That Fur'Angle ship looks really awesome, early texturing and all.
Are those LSF ships not reflective for some reason? I really liked that property of theirs, and thus hope you didn't remove it.
Also, of course  :jaw:

Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: General Battuta on November 01, 2010, 04:47:47 pm
Yeah they should be shinier.
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: NGTM-1R on November 01, 2010, 04:49:32 pm
I look forward to the CSA deploying a capital ship that makes Armageddons look pansy. :P
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Rodo on November 01, 2010, 04:56:24 pm
Oh YES, this is what I wanted to hear from you guys.

Good news, this makes my crappy day a better day  :yes: :yes:
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Dark Hunter on November 01, 2010, 06:02:57 pm
I look forward to the CSA deploying a capital ship that makes Armageddons look pansy. :P


And I look forward to these badass Zy capital ships that we've heard so much about.
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Spoon on November 01, 2010, 06:15:59 pm
Spoon you are brilliant but those were about the two ****tiest screenshots you could've picked. Look at the composition! Half of them is empty space! Center your subjects, Junior Photographer Third Class!
You are totally right Sir Tutta.
I apologize!

You'll just have to use your (http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/1911/1247321127719.jpg) to fill in the blank space!


Is that a Fura'ngle bomber? Certainly has an odd kind of charm...
After being liberated from the Hertak, the Fura'ngle once again had free reign to use their advanced technology to its fullest potential. The Diva is very heavy fighter that employs weapons that will make you poop your pants.

Are those LSF ships not reflective for some reason? I really liked that property of theirs, and thus hope you didn't remove it.
They are still reflective. It's just that the paint job on LSF ships that are not in the JGASF are darker and thus look a lot less reflective.

I look forward to the CSA deploying a capital ship that makes Armageddons look pansy. :P
And I look forward to these badass Zy capital ships that we've heard so much about.
On that note, Axem has already made some sweet progress on the first CSA capship. His modelling skillz beat mine by a long shot, so I'm very happy with his work  :nod:
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Ravenholme on November 01, 2010, 06:30:01 pm
Oh awesome! I'll get in the dev IRC soon, not as busy at uni this week :D
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Colonol Dekker on November 01, 2010, 06:32:44 pm
That is now my facebook profile picture.................


 :yes:




Also,  :yes: :yes: :yes: to the sequel. More hertak please :nod:
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Jellyfish on November 01, 2010, 07:55:26 pm
They are still reflective. It's just that the paint job on LSF ships that are not in the JGASF are darker and thus look a lot less reflective.

Ah, yes, like the Alligator and the ships in A Nordera Day. Different battle groups have different colors, right?
Also, does that mean we aren't going to play as the JGASF?
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Nuclear1 on November 01, 2010, 08:04:41 pm
Wings of Dawn 2:  Now 50% Dawnier!
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Ypoknons on November 02, 2010, 02:40:41 am
Darker the edgier sequel ;)
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: -Norbert- on November 02, 2010, 04:40:27 am
Quote
Also, does that mean we aren't going to play as the JGASF?
Or it might just mean that the JGASF is working together with the regular LSF military....
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Mobius on November 03, 2010, 11:58:49 am
Good news! Looking forward to WoD 2. :)
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Ravenholme on November 03, 2010, 06:53:13 pm
Hah, I just realised that I don't associate the 00 Gundam theme with Gundam, I associate it with WoD
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Dark Hunter on November 03, 2010, 08:25:23 pm
I've been having that issue with Decisive Battle. :doubt:
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Deadly in a Shadow on November 04, 2010, 12:59:26 pm

Why ask? WoD 2 is a great idea!

What about moar dakka?
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Dragon on November 04, 2010, 02:15:56 pm
If one of ideas I have for WoD goes in, you'll see a gatling autocannon with ROF that approaches real-life gatling guns.  :)
The only reason it doesn't go even further is that engine has difficulties with handling these levels of more dakka (of course, I made sure that it won't cause problems).  
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Thaeris on November 04, 2010, 07:49:16 pm
If one of ideas I have for WoD goes in, you'll see a gatling autocannon with ROF that approaches real-life gatling guns.  :)
The only reason it doesn't go even further is that engine has difficulties with handling these levels of more dakka (of course, I made sure that it won't cause problems).  

Did you play with the Feather 3 with the HiVel yet?

 :cool:
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: SpardaSon21 on November 04, 2010, 09:58:59 pm
If one of ideas I have for WoD goes in, you'll see a gatling autocannon with ROF that approaches real-life gatling guns.  :)
The only reason it doesn't go even further is that engine has difficulties with handling these levels of more dakka (of course, I made sure that it won't cause problems).  
By real-life Gatling guns, you wouldn't be referring to the M61 Vulcan?  The M61A2 has a rate of fire of 110 rounds per second, so is FSO capable of handling something that's even approaching that?  Although, considering we used a 55mm autocannon in WoD1, your weapon would probably be closer to the GAU-8 Avenger which fires at the sedate pace of seventy rounds per second.

Either way, it sounds freaking awesome.  Spoon, add Dragon's weapon!
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Snail on November 05, 2010, 11:37:06 am
Is this going to be a darker and edgier sequel?
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Spoon on November 05, 2010, 12:28:53 pm
Is this going to be a darker and edgier sequel?
Darker the edgier sequel ;)
Wings of Dusk
57% more angst
Three times more grimdark

Hah, I just realised that I don't associate the 00 Gundam theme with Gundam, I associate it with WoD
Hah, I just realised that I don't associate the 00 Gundam theme with Gundam, I associate it with WoD
  :D
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Jellyfish on November 05, 2010, 01:01:34 pm
Is this going to be a darker and edgier sequel?
Hopefully, no. There's already plenty of grim'n dark FS2 campaigns. No need to make one that isn't into one of those
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: -Norbert- on November 05, 2010, 01:20:13 pm
Take away Misuzu and Infi and even WoD 1 is pretty dark.
I mean most of the time your faction is losing terretory no matter how well they are doing.
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Dragon on November 05, 2010, 03:40:01 pm
If one of ideas I have for WoD goes in, you'll see a gatling autocannon with ROF that approaches real-life gatling guns.  :)
The only reason it doesn't go even further is that engine has difficulties with handling these levels of more dakka (of course, I made sure that it won't cause problems).  
By real-life Gatling guns, you wouldn't be referring to the M61 Vulcan?  The M61A2 has a rate of fire of 110 rounds per second, so is FSO capable of handling something that's even approaching that?  Although, considering we used a 55mm autocannon in WoD1, your weapon would probably be closer to the GAU-8 Avenger which fires at the sedate pace of seventy rounds per second.

Either way, it sounds freaking awesome.  Spoon, add Dragon's weapon!
The gatling autocannon currently fires at 2400 rpm, which translates to 40 rounds per second. This is about how fast GAU-8 Avenger used to fire when it still had toggleable ROF (it doesn't now) or an M134 Minigun on a low setting. Due to the type of shells it uses, it's vastly more powerfull than GAU-8. It is also capable of loading different shells for various purposes. I would have said more, but any other information regarding this weapon is classified level Omega.  :)
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: NGTM-1R on November 05, 2010, 04:22:22 pm
Is this going to be a darker and edgier sequel?

**** that. Light bubbly anime style~!

Or at least sufficient awesome.
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Snail on November 05, 2010, 04:44:21 pm
Hopefully, no. There's already plenty of grim'n dark FS2 campaigns. No need to make one that isn't into one of those

**** that. Light bubbly anime style~!

Or at least sufficient awesome.

I dunno, "darker and edgier" is the vibe I get from the screenshots. Also Spoon not denying Ypoknos' comments.
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Jellyfish on November 05, 2010, 05:13:35 pm
Well, since the JGASF doesn't appear in those screenshots, and they have the shiny white ships, without them, everything seems darker.
Or it may be Spoon's launcher flags, who knows.
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Dark Hunter on November 05, 2010, 06:34:26 pm
Is this going to be a darker and edgier sequel?

**** that. Light bubbly anime style~!

Or at least sufficient awesome.

QFT
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Pred the Penguin on November 06, 2010, 02:03:24 am
Will most of the old cast be reappearing.
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: -Norbert- on November 06, 2010, 01:35:07 pm
I guess Misuzu, Crystal and Dawn being in it is a given.
Apart from them aren't Kuonichi (or somthing like that - the shy one with the inferiority complex) and Justice the only other ones still in the JGASF, with Justice being instructor rather than pilots?
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Dark Hunter on November 06, 2010, 01:52:22 pm
Tempest and Milkshake are still there too.
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Nuclear1 on November 10, 2010, 10:36:09 am
WoD2:  Now with 85% more tentacle rape :p
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Rodo on November 10, 2010, 10:58:01 am
And also, the dreaded notebook containing unspeakable fan art is found floating around in space...truth always finds a way.
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: -Norbert- on November 10, 2010, 11:44:47 am
Now that you mention tentacles:
Will we be seeing that Cordi battleship type that the pilots talked about before Crystal rescued their queen?
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Spoon on November 10, 2010, 12:01:55 pm
WoD2:  Now with 85% more tentacle rape :p
And also, the dreaded notebook containing unspeakable fan art is found floating around in space...truth always finds a way.
 :lol:

Will most of the old cast be reappearing.
Actually, no.
WoD II will have a mostly new cast, looking at things from a slightly different perspective.

Well, since the JGASF doesn't appear in those screenshots, and they have the shiny white ships, without them, everything seems darker.
Or it may be Spoon's launcher flags, who knows.
And much to my embarrassment, I only recently realized that my launcher flags were indeed completely different from the ones I usually have.

Here's take 2, now with less empty space and slightly brighter lighting  :p
(http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/7285/36713842.png)
(http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/5514/25079647.png)

Now that you mention tentacles:
Will we be seeing that Cordi battleship type that the pilots talked about before Crystal rescued their queen?
There will be new ship designs for every race  :nod:
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Dark Hunter on November 10, 2010, 01:38:28 pm
@first pic: DO WANT!
                                :jaw:
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Jellyfish on November 10, 2010, 03:15:06 pm
That Fur'Angle ships looks awesome. Quite 'solid', too. It wouldn't look out of place in ASW, IMO.

Will you still be playing as a JGASF member?
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: -Norbert- on November 10, 2010, 03:55:34 pm
Oh my... I just imagined some green JGASF rookie saying "Misuzu-sensei"...  :lol:
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: NGTM-1R on November 10, 2010, 05:39:20 pm
Oh my... I just imagined some green JGASF rookie saying "Misuzu-sensei"...  :lol:

That sound you heard was Crystal's brain exploding.
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Jellyfish on November 10, 2010, 05:54:36 pm
There better be some more anime tropes in this new cast. The rich ***** with the OH HO HO HO laugh (wasn't Tempest rich or something?) and the tsundere for starters. We already have the shy girl (Kunoichi), the leader (Crystal), the angry warrior girl (Milkshake), the mysterious girl (Dawn, also doubling as the deadpan snarker) and the 'I'm awesome' girl (Misuzu)
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: NGTM-1R on November 10, 2010, 06:25:47 pm
What we really need is someone with glasses.
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Dark Hunter on November 10, 2010, 06:34:56 pm
No no no, we need a Head Ani (preferably whoever's in command) doing the Gendo Pose.

It worked for JAD, why not here?
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: NGTM-1R on November 10, 2010, 07:23:33 pm
No no no, we need a Head Ani (preferably whoever's in command) doing the Gendo Pose.

It worked for JAD, why not here?

Why not both? We can have normally nice commander girl with glasses abruptly bust out the Gendown'd and Just As Planned when the mission is going extra-well.

Or alternately in response to inter-crew dating.
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Jellyfish on November 10, 2010, 07:26:53 pm
What we really need is someone with glasses.
Usually the shy girl. We don't know if Kunoichi wears them.
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Spoon on November 10, 2010, 08:06:01 pm
Due to all the genetic engineering, bad eye sight is very rare among terrans these days.
Glasses are pretty much a thing of the past in WoD

Sorry  :p
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: NGTM-1R on November 10, 2010, 08:37:02 pm
Due to all the genetic engineering, bad eye sight is very rare among terrans these days.
Glasses are pretty much a thing of the past in WoD

Sorry  :p

I didn't say they needed glasses, just that they wear glasses. After all, The Glasses Come Off is a common anime trope too. (And if StrikerS can have a freaking Combat Cyborg wear glasses you don't need an excuse.)
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Spoon on November 10, 2010, 08:51:07 pm
Due to all the genetic engineering, bad eye sight is very rare among terrans these days.
Glasses are pretty much a thing of the past in WoD

Sorry  :p

I didn't say they needed glasses, just that they wear glasses. After all, The Glasses Come Off is a common anime trope too. (And if StrikerS can have a freaking Combat Cyborg wear glasses you don't need an excuse.)
Point taken  :p
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Jellyfish on November 10, 2010, 09:53:39 pm
Also a >:3 face, or a º3º one.
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Spoon on December 09, 2010, 07:42:38 am
"No sir, I swear I had nothing to do with this incident! There's no way I could have taken on 7 Excellion class fighters while flying that junk heap."
"So you keep saying pilot, but we have over 8 witness reports stating otherwise. And surely I don't have to remind you that this isn't the first incident involving you and LSF fighters."
"2 of those were obviously fabricated in an attempt to tarnish my good reputation!"
"And the other 3?"
"I, uh..."
"Enough. You are dismissed for now. This isn't the last you've heard about this."
"Yes sir..."

"Ugh, what a day...
Now... what was my room code again...?"
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Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Colonol Dekker on December 09, 2010, 07:52:23 am
File not found.

d('_')b
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: redsniper on December 09, 2010, 01:03:48 pm
WoD II will have a mostly new cast...

But I was just getting to know the old cast! :(
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: SpardaSon21 on December 09, 2010, 01:13:02 pm
At least Misuzu, Crystal, and Dawn are part of the 1st JGASF still.
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Spoon on December 09, 2010, 02:09:59 pm
File not found.

d('_')b
Spoiler:
it's a riddle
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Thaeris on December 09, 2010, 02:24:50 pm
 :lol:

Spoon, you're my hero.
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: SpardaSon21 on December 09, 2010, 02:33:25 pm
 :lol:
Spoon, you naughty bastard, you.
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Droid803 on December 09, 2010, 03:10:22 pm
plz maek sentimental shooting mod
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Rodo on December 09, 2010, 06:26:18 pm
Me interested, where can I get it?
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Dark Hunter on December 09, 2010, 09:09:52 pm
plz maek sentimental shooting mod

Oh noez...
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Jellyfish on December 09, 2010, 09:58:46 pm
Sentimental Shooting? I've heard of that.
It's Touhou with porn, right?
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: SpardaSon21 on December 09, 2010, 10:01:08 pm
If that's the case, it is time for some shipping then.
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Dark Hunter on December 10, 2010, 12:32:31 am
Sentimental Shooting? I've heard of that.
It's Touhou with porn, right?

It is nothing like Touhou, actually, except that they are in the same genre. But that's about where the similarity ends.
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: NGTM-1R on December 10, 2010, 02:41:40 pm
It's Touhou with porn, right?

I suspect this statement is redundant.

Sentimental Shooting is a Raiden clone with the "ground targets" being girls' clothes.
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Jellyfish on December 10, 2010, 02:58:34 pm
It's Touhou with porn, right?

I suspect this statement is redundant.

It isn't. At least in the games.
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: NGTM-1R on December 10, 2010, 03:06:01 pm
It isn't. At least in the games.

This is extremely arguable considering the rather serious fetishistic overtones Touhou loves to drop.
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Droid803 on December 10, 2010, 03:13:48 pm
There's no actual porn in the games.
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Thaeris on December 10, 2010, 03:32:09 pm
If porn is implied, is it porn?

If a tree falls in the forest, does it make a sound?

 :lol:
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Dark Hunter on December 10, 2010, 11:51:09 pm
It isn't even implied. There is no sexual content in the Touhou games. None whatsoever. I honestly have no idea what NGTM-1R is talking about with "fetishistic overtones", but I suspect it's some fan-derived thing not present in the games themselves (I'll grant you that the fans come up with huge amounts of Rule 34 with regard to the series, but then, fans do that with any series).

...

We're getting quite off-topic, aren't we? :nervous:
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Jellyfish on December 19, 2010, 03:50:32 am
Quick question: will you include music from the Raildex series again?
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Spoon on December 19, 2010, 06:37:54 am
probably not
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Mobius on December 19, 2010, 06:42:27 am
Q: Are you going to hire a music composer?

Q: (Probably redundant.) Are you going to use the fiction viewer for storytelling purposes? If so, will its use be heavy?
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Spoon on December 19, 2010, 07:30:30 am
No

and

Haven't decided yet but right now I'm leaning to no, because the command briefing has room for .ani's the fiction viewer (as far as I know) does not.
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Mobius on December 19, 2010, 07:56:55 am
Seems reasonable. :yes:

Q: How many new designs do you intend to create for WoD 2?
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Spoon on December 19, 2010, 11:42:34 am
As many as are deemed needed  :p
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Mobius on December 19, 2010, 02:03:33 pm
You most make estimates! ;)
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: -Norbert- on December 28, 2010, 07:04:51 pm
Are you going to expand the soundtrack for WoD2?
If yes I think Final mission - Quantum Burst (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9199GFql3A) from the Gundam 00 movie would be great if used in the right situation or more likely pieces of it. It does change around quite a bit, since it was compsed to fit the film and it's changing situation during the end fight and it's over 8 minutes long.
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: NGTM-1R on December 28, 2010, 08:32:33 pm
I'm waiting for him to drop Nanoha music in there.

You know you want to, Spoon...
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Dark Hunter on December 28, 2010, 10:14:44 pm
I can see it now:

Prometheus Frame, SET UP! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjD7Hht9nlk) :D


In all seriousness, certain Nanoha music could actually work well. Especially if it's from the movie.
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Jellyfish on December 29, 2010, 05:24:19 am
Or music from the My- series. I for one wouldn't mind more Raildex music
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Nabla on December 29, 2010, 09:07:10 am
After reading the few previous post, i was wandering what kind of music will be good for Wing of Dawn. I then listened the music of the space anim that i liked. I think that Nanoha music can work well. A found a site with some music of Outlaw star, the music styl is different of actual wing of dawn but maybe you can found in a little of contrast. http://www.angelfire.com/realm/of_olsmusic/ but i don't know if the quality is sufficent.

Personaly i'm a big fan of turrican II music, but it's not a manga music.

Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: -Norbert- on December 29, 2010, 10:44:13 am
Considering that manga are the japanese equivalent of comic books, as in writing and pictures only, there is no manga music :P
And neither is there really Anime music. Anime is as varied as movies with real actors, and thus their soundtracks can also be everything, from almost 8 bit midi like to the orchestral and big choirs and everything in between and beyond.
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Spoon on December 29, 2010, 07:28:28 pm
I can see it now:

Prometheus Frame, SET UP! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjD7Hht9nlk) :D


In all seriousness, certain Nanoha music could actually work well. Especially if it's from the movie.
epic :lol:
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Mobius on January 02, 2011, 06:15:33 pm
Q: Are we going to see more cutscenes (missions+ actual cutscenes)?
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Spoon on January 02, 2011, 06:24:06 pm
No cutscenes are planned at the moment
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Mobius on January 02, 2011, 06:32:08 pm
Not at all? Why?
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Spoon on January 02, 2011, 06:39:41 pm
Ingame cutscenes will happen at some point (just none are planned atm), out of game cutscenes are too much work, never going to do that again  :p
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Mobius on January 02, 2011, 08:19:13 pm
Really? I thought you found them easy to create, and therefore expected to see more in WoD2.
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: NGTM-1R on January 02, 2011, 08:48:32 pm
Ingame cutscenes will happen at some point (just none are planned atm), out of game cutscenes are too much work, never going to do that again  :p

Damnation, this means no more Aestival mecha sequences. :(
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Mobius on January 02, 2011, 09:35:31 pm
Exactly the kind of cutscene I would have loved to see in WoD2. :(
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Snail on January 03, 2011, 07:25:34 am
Ingame cutscenes will happen at some point (just none are planned atm), out of game cutscenes are too much work, never going to do that again  :p
Damnation, this means no more Aestival mecha sequences. :(
What about... In-game mecha sequences... :nervous:
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Mobius on January 03, 2011, 12:52:32 pm
Those are a completely different matter, and IMO would kill the awesome nature of WoD. Someone may still find them wonderful, though.
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Droid803 on January 03, 2011, 01:09:15 pm
Those are a completely different matter, and IMO would kill the awesome nature of WoD. Someone may still find them wonderful, though.
lol how would it do that.
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Jellyfish on January 03, 2011, 02:17:43 pm
Axem did one such sequence for Just Another Day. Why not use that?
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Mobius on January 03, 2011, 02:23:16 pm
The mechas were static in that one.
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: NGTM-1R on January 03, 2011, 06:48:35 pm
Getter and I talked about using turrets to simulate head an arms once...
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Snail on January 03, 2011, 08:03:50 pm
How would mechs ruin WoD it's just make it so much more awesome it'd implode from awesomeness singularities or something and there's a hole in the event horizon and spiral nemesis and lol its 2am
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: SpardaSon21 on January 03, 2011, 11:17:51 pm
How would mecha-Aestivals ruin WoD?  The only thing WoD is currently missing is giant robots.
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Jellyfish on January 03, 2011, 11:42:15 pm
Why would Aestivals need to transform into robots anyway? They are pretty overpowered as they are.
I wonder if newer Cyrvan strikecraft also transform into robots.
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Dark Hunter on January 03, 2011, 11:44:16 pm
Why would Aestivals need to transform into robots anyway?

For breaking alien bug queens out of needlessly massive Flagships, apparently. :p
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: SpardaSon21 on January 03, 2011, 11:46:50 pm
They aren't needlessly massive.  Hertak rulers have small penises.
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Spoon on January 04, 2011, 07:39:54 am
 :lol:
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: NGTM-1R on January 04, 2011, 08:00:23 am
Why would Aestivals need to transform into robots anyway?

BECAUSE IT'S ANIME DAMMIT.
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Jellyfish on January 04, 2011, 08:57:16 am
But robots in space isn't reali- ARGH!

*Jellyfish was never seen again*
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Quanto on January 05, 2011, 01:39:09 pm
While I am normaly against space mecha, WoD is the perfect game for them to exist, and I would absolutely love to see them in WoD. Like, I'd cream myself if I saw flying mecha ingame. Macross style!
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Ypoknons on January 10, 2011, 10:07:04 pm
Been loving mecha shows since I was a little kid. Will suspend disbelief for them any day.
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Flak on January 27, 2011, 11:02:32 pm
Mechas are fine, even just playing C&C Red Alert 3 you probably feel like everyone wants mechas these days.

Another thing, Is it just me, or anyone think that the Guardian Angel seems too small to be a carrier type ship. Don't need to be the size of an Orion, but I just think it needs to be somewhat bigger.
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: NGTM-1R on January 27, 2011, 11:19:13 pm
The Guardian Angel could easily support a fairly small fighter complement, 16 to 24. This is, admittedly, probably too small to make a good fleet carrier (which should be able to both mount a strike and still deploy a strong defense), but it's workable for an escort carrier.
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Spoon on January 28, 2011, 07:42:30 am
Well the Nimitz class carrier is 330m in length and it carries around 90 planes/heli's
The GA may not seem that big, but its actually 900m in length
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: SpardaSon21 on January 28, 2011, 10:03:46 am
How much of that 900m is landing/takeoff strip?
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Flak on January 28, 2011, 10:06:17 am
In term of firepower yes, I just think that the fighter bays feels a little crammed to carry all those fighters.
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Spoon on January 28, 2011, 11:34:00 am
How much of that 900m is landing/takeoff strip?
The two forward prongs are about half of it
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Dragon on January 28, 2011, 12:09:55 pm
GA is a medium assualt carrier, which is meant to carry fighters into battle and survive in it, but not for heavy direct combat or large scale operations.
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: NGTM-1R on January 28, 2011, 01:14:34 pm
The two forward prongs are about half of it

Plus ship systems and considering their fighters seem to be fairly large...maybe 36-40 fighters. That'd make it a light fleet or large escort carrier. Still not able to mount a real strike and defend itself at the same time, but more than suitable to provide cover and scouting/early warning to a battlegroup.
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: -Norbert- on January 28, 2011, 04:44:19 pm
So what kind of carrier was the LSF usining, or maybe is still using, before the GA was build? In the campaign you never see any carriers, but with that many fighters it's unlikely they have non.
Will we see them, or their successors, in WoD2?
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Spoon on January 28, 2011, 05:17:53 pm
(http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/3108/champj.png)
That would be the champion, it'll still be in service by the time of WoD2.  A large number of these ships have been build yet losses of this class has been few
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: SpardaSon21 on January 28, 2011, 07:26:06 pm
Does the LSF have a battleship to go with that carrier?
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: AndrewofDoom on January 28, 2011, 07:27:46 pm
Does the LSF have a battleship to go with that carrier?

The Knight. It's been mentioned in WoD1 already. =p
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: SpardaSon21 on January 28, 2011, 07:41:07 pm
Yeah.  I couldn't find where though, so I just took a blind stab at getting a picture from Spoon.  Looks like I rolled a one.
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Spoon on January 28, 2011, 08:11:07 pm
That would be the Crusader
(http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/8237/75147176.png)
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Rodo on February 10, 2011, 06:56:36 am
So how's that going?

Can we get some pics?, some new frikkin awesome function? (love that last video with the afterburner thingy).
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Spoon on February 10, 2011, 09:17:06 am
(http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/1212/gnmissiles.png)
weeeee
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: MatthTheGeek on February 10, 2011, 09:40:16 am
omg, it's full of particles.
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Rodo on February 10, 2011, 10:09:46 am
Nuke's particle stuff? , looks pretty :cool:
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Snail on February 10, 2011, 02:46:52 pm
That looks like fun.
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: NGTM-1R on February 10, 2011, 06:03:54 pm
I'm not sure it looks like fun, primarily because I think I'm look at some Space Elf's drive trails.
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Rodo on February 10, 2011, 08:25:56 pm
Wat? no, those are missile trails... I guess.
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Ravenholme on February 11, 2011, 12:41:38 am
(http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/1212/gnmissiles.png)
weeeee

So Macross/Galaxy Angel.

I love it :3
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: Flak on February 11, 2011, 03:02:31 am
or is it some weird space elf energy weapon
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2?
Post by: -Norbert- on February 11, 2011, 05:02:38 am
Considering how baffled they were about the Fura'ngles guided lasers I somehow doubt that, unless you mean missiles with energy-based warheads (like the ones the Cyrvan missiles had in WoD 1 already).
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2
Post by: Spoon on February 11, 2011, 04:33:40 pm
Blargh, I had a long post written but it got eaten by maintenance  :(
Unforunately dont feel like typing it all out again. (I raged when I hit back on the browser and it was all gone)

So here's a screenie
(http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/1436/woda.png)
Currently reconverting a lot of the wod1 ships, fixing collision errors, seams, smoothing and in some cases adding debris and lods.

and some pew pew
(http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/4194/pewpewphaserbeams.png)
(http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/7020/notenoughdakka.png)
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2
Post by: Jellyfish on February 11, 2011, 06:04:55 pm
Do I see a Cyrvan ship of some sort there? Aw yeah!
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2
Post by: guitarfan01 on February 11, 2011, 06:12:08 pm
This looks really cool!  I believe in your ability to tell an interesting story... just one question:

Is there any possible way there might be some Cowboy Bebop music in there? too good, too bad (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUTMw7rEsDk) or cats on mars (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97xfV6yXcrk)

Or maybe some of Yoko Kanno's music for Macross Plus (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QablnaV9p-4) and Macross Frontier (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzGX8pykamo)?  Or anything she's ever done, ever? (Vision of Escaflowne (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYf7NluE5D4), Wolf's Rain (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtY2WKS_od0), Ghost in the Shell: SAC (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nO4AGB6-O9), Brain Powerd (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qopVp43tSAg)

Anyway, I am a bit of a flaming Kanno fanboy.

(alright, it was two questions)

(another kickass Brain Powerd track, just cause...)  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qopVp43tSAg)
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2
Post by: Spoon on February 11, 2011, 06:44:32 pm
First off, welcome to HLP guitarfan01  :)

Cowboy music is pretty distinct/jazzy, its quite a bit different from the music used in WoD so far.
I do have a pretty much every track Yoko kanno made on my pc (just in a wierd .ape format, need to convert that) so I'm definitely going to be looking for tracks there  :nod:

Do I see a Cyrvan ship of some sort there? Aw yeah!
*gasp*
What gave it away?
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2
Post by: NGTM-1R on February 11, 2011, 08:13:05 pm
I think it was the ring. :p
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2
Post by: Jellyfish on February 11, 2011, 09:02:09 pm
I was about to call it a Cordi ship, actually. Or a Cyrvan/Cordi hybrid.

The green texture looks Cordi to me.
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2
Post by: Droid803 on February 11, 2011, 09:48:20 pm
Aestivals are green.

And noone notices that its not a Battleaxe getting carved up :P
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2
Post by: AndrewofDoom on February 11, 2011, 10:28:40 pm
I worked so hard on the Nordera Blacksmith too.  :(
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2
Post by: Jellyfish on February 11, 2011, 11:15:35 pm
'Blacksmith' I hear? A better version of the Battleaxe, I hope. Or one without the Hertak kill protocol.
Still, the parts of the image that weren't ambient_factor'd to oblivion look awesome.

Aestivals are green.

A light shade of green, and it was reflective. This is opaque dark green. Cordi green.
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2
Post by: Flak on February 12, 2011, 12:15:20 am
Any capital ships for the Zy?
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2
Post by: guitarfan01 on February 12, 2011, 01:42:10 am
First off, welcome to HLP guitarfan01  :)
  Thanks!  I've been lurking on the Diaspora board (and before that, BTRL ...on the other forum) for years, but I have just recently come to explore the rest of HLP and FSO.  I'm just starting to play the 3.6.12 version of the retail FS2 campaign now, thanks to GOG.  I played TIE Fighter, X-Wing, X-Wing Alliance, Descent, Wing Commanders 3-Prophecy all when they came out, but never FreeSpace until now.

Cowboy music is pretty distinct/jazzy, its quite a bit different from the music used in WoD so far.
I do have a pretty much every track Yoko kanno made on my pc (just in a wierd .ape format, need to convert that) so I'm definitely going to be looking for tracks there :nod:

Aha, good news indeed!  I don't believe I've ever heard of .ape format.
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2
Post by: MatthTheGeek on February 12, 2011, 06:06:55 am
inb4 r.ape
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2
Post by: ssmit132 on February 12, 2011, 06:10:03 am
And noone notices that its not a Battleaxe getting carved up :P
I worked so hard on the Nordera Blacksmith too.  :(
I noticed, I noticed! I just didn't say anything! :nervous:
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2
Post by: -Norbert- on February 12, 2011, 12:24:22 pm
Yoko Kanno really is a great composer. He (or she? I actually don't now) is for Anime what Jeremy Soule is for computer games.
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2
Post by: PsychoLandlord on February 12, 2011, 12:33:14 pm
Nice Job Spoon. Had a lot of fun with the first WoD, eagerly awaiting this one. :yes:
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2
Post by: NGTM-1R on February 12, 2011, 01:02:42 pm
And noone notices that its not a Battleaxe getting carved up :P

To be fair, it has nearly the same basic shape. We just thought it had bee massively prettified.
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2
Post by: Droid803 on February 12, 2011, 01:48:59 pm
True that.
The sidepods are on opposite sides though :P
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2
Post by: Dark Hunter on February 12, 2011, 03:11:20 pm
Yoko Kanno really is a great composer. He (or she? I actually don't now) is for Anime what Jeremy Soule is for computer games.

She.

More of a fan of Yuki Kajiura's work myself, but Yoko Kanno is nothing short of amazing.
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2
Post by: Jellyfish on February 12, 2011, 09:57:03 pm
I do know Yuki Kajiura (his/her work in Madoka and My-HiME were awesome) but Yoko Kanno goes right above my head.
What did she do?
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2
Post by: PsychoLandlord on February 12, 2011, 10:15:51 pm
The way I hear it,  Everything, but the only thing I know she was involved in was Cowboy Bebop. Oh, and Macross Plus.
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2
Post by: Zacam on February 12, 2011, 10:16:03 pm

First thought: Google it.

More Direct Answer: Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex and other utterly awesome stuff.

Another artist to potentially look up: MELL
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2
Post by: PsychoLandlord on February 12, 2011, 11:30:21 pm
Wow, she really has  done the music for everything. Or at least, everything I've bothered watching.

So Spoon, if it isn't revealing too much, how big are some of the battles in WoD2 going to get? You have a skill with throwing hordes of ships into a mission and not letting it turn into a BOE, which is awesome and I'm curious as to whether or not you were going to expand on that.
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2
Post by: -Norbert- on February 13, 2011, 03:21:43 am
More Direct Answer: Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex and other utterly awesome stuff.
Don't forget Vision of Escaflowne. You can think of the series what you will, but the soundtrack is really great.
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2
Post by: NGTM-1R on February 13, 2011, 12:17:45 pm
To be honest, I can't stand most of Kanno's work outside of her more well-known series. :P
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2
Post by: Spoon on February 13, 2011, 05:45:36 pm
Wow, she really has  done the music for everything. Or at least, everything I've bothered watching.

So Spoon, if it isn't revealing too much, how big are some of the battles in WoD2 going to get? You have a skill with throwing hordes of ships into a mission and not letting it turn into a BOE, which is awesome and I'm curious as to whether or not you were going to expand on that.
Some of the new capital ships produce a tremendous amount of firepower on their own, So much that I'm afraid that I'll hit the object limit  :p
It's likely that on average, WoD2 will have less ships on screen than WoD1 did
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2
Post by: PsychoLandlord on February 13, 2011, 06:16:45 pm
Aw. The BoE's (except good) were fun. But, you've already proven your abilities as a FREDer, so I'm sure that whatever you end up doing in WoD2 will be awesome.
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2
Post by: Spoon on February 13, 2011, 07:32:35 pm
Thanks  :)
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2
Post by: Dark Hunter on February 14, 2011, 10:19:04 pm
On the topic of music that would be epic...

I know you're probably aware of the the Precursors remixing project for Star Control II's music, Spoon, seeing as you used a couple of their themes in WoD 1.

But what about "Mortal Melee (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIacllJxAlk)"?

Would be a kickass battle theme, methinks. Imagine taking on a fighter swarm to that. ;7
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2
Post by: starlord on April 14, 2011, 04:24:47 am
wait, if the terrans already use the champion and crusader, then what would the knight be?
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2
Post by: Deadly in a Shadow on April 14, 2011, 07:25:36 am

Or the Templar?
Title: Re: Wings of Dawn 2
Post by: Thaeris on April 14, 2011, 11:10:48 am
Dragoon!