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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Dr.Zer0 on April 29, 2002, 02:53:30 pm
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I just heard more about that tornado that struck here in maryland, it was an F4 and 3 ppl died, it seems this place cant even be safe for climate :sigh:
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Tornades always spell bad things.
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I'm from Oklahoma, the place with the most tornadoes in the world. And I'm not exaggerating. Whee.
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Hm, Tornadoes suck. Luck we don't have that kind of thing around here... :)
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You get used to it. Just May 1999 my cousins' friends houses were completely blown away (literally). Luckily, that's about the only thing you have to deal with in Oklahoma - besides crazed ex-Marines.
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Hm, getting my house blown away is not something I'd get used to that easily... Isn't there a way to build houses so they can whitstand the tornadoes?
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it struck a few miles east of where I live, that cloud was dark, and moved fast.. the hail was huge, channel 9 showed it... :eek:
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Originally posted by Styxx
Hm, getting my house blown away is not something I'd get used to that easily... Isn't there a way to build houses so they can withstand the tornadoes?
Not really..It's not like hurricanes. Hurricanes usually cause more damage, money-wise, because they're spread over a wide area. However, they're not nearly as powerful as tornadoes, which can rip the house off its foundations and fling it a couple miles..not cool.
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Originally posted by Alikchi
You get used to it. Just May 1999 my cousins' friends houses were completely blown away (literally). Luckily, that's about the only thing you have to deal with in Oklahoma - besides crazed ex-Marines.
that sounds like Spaceballs...Said by Dark Helmet
Before you die, know this: I am your mother's father's uncle's cousin's brother's best friend's former roommate!
:D
Sux about the tornados. Although, New England isn't supposed to have earthquakes (no fault line nearby) and we had one that was 5.0 on the Richter scale a few days ago!
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Damn. I guess making the houses strong enough to resist them would be too expensive...
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Too expensive indeed. You have to live with it or not there at all.
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I dunno...
I think earthquakes are worse...
Ever feel one?
Its the most unsetteling thing you'll ever experience. The ground literally turns into a trampoline...
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Originally posted by Styxx
Hm, Tornadoes suck. Luck we don't have that kind of thing around here... :)
that why I posted it, tornados hardly happen here, and when they do they never relly touch down, and as this one being an F4 and lasting about a half hour...
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Meh. I live right near where it hit, close enough that it gets a spot in the local paper, and we get tornadoes all the time. Only way to actually get killed by one is either to be asleep or terminally stupid, they're pretty easy to see and make one ***** of a noisy mess when they hit something... Your house taken down, that's another issue. But tornadoes don't exactly come out of nowhere right on top of you...
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houses that can withstand tornadoes: concrete bunker in the shape of a semi flat dome with walls 2 feet thick and a foundation 10 feet deep, if not more.
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Yeah, just hope the tornado hasnt picked up any metal objects, like a shovel. It could easily drive it through that concrete wall...
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Originally posted by LtNarol
houses that can withstand tornadoes: concrete bunker in the shape of a semi flat dome with walls 2 feet thick and a foundation 10 feet deep, if not more.
nah, that'd do for a small F2 maybe, but you'd need to just build a deep hole in the ground to save you :)
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Ways to avoid a tornado: See it before it's directly on top of you, run.
Hear the damned thing as it hits your house/whatever, run AWAY, not TOWARDS, sound of house getting demolished.
See it coming towards you in car- if can drive away, do. Otherwise, run.
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Originally posted by Stryke 9
Ways to avoid a tornado: See it before it's directly on top of you, run.
Hear the damned thing as it hits your house/whatever, run AWAY, not TOWARDS, sound of house getting demolished.
See it coming towards you in car- if can drive away, do. Otherwise, run.
In all seriousness, don't get in the car, tornadoes travel at about 60 miles per hour.
AND DON'T HIDE UNDER AN OVERPASS EITHER! That's VERY bad.
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If it's a choice of getting hit by one or hiding under and underpass, I'd have thought the underpass would be a better bet than just standing in the open?
And driving seems better than running if it can travel that fast, at least you can try and flank and move around and out of its way...
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They also move pretty much at random, so the farther you get away fast the less likely you are to get sent to Oz.
Besides, picture ths scenario: You're in a car. Suddenly, a tree flies past your window, and you look to the side. Big, ugly tornado coming in on you. You're about to floor it, when suddenly you see a sign saying "SPEED LIMIT 55MPH". The tornado's doing 60. Time to worry about those traffic tickets, eh?
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Well thats just it - if it's a case of tree flinging tornados or getting a ticket I think I'd risk the ticket...
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Originally posted by Thunder
If it's a choice of getting hit by one or hiding under and underpass, I'd have thought the underpass would be a better bet than just standing in the open?
That's what the common philosophy was, until 99. Mostly it had been reinforced by a tape of some people hiding under an overpass during a really low power tornadoe, an F2 or something. They came out unscathed. A bunch of people about 20 miles from here did the same thing..the tornado was a LOT more powerful and shot debris under there..about 20 people died if I remember correctly, out of a 60-something total. Bad stuff.
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Ah, I see where your coming from... but surely it's just as fatal to stay in the open? Perhaps finding some meter high bank or something to hide behind where debris can't hit you is better?
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If I remember correctly, it's best to find a ditch or a riverbed or something and just lie down flat if there's no cover. :nod: If you're in a house, hide in a small room in the center of the house (like a closet or a bathroom) or better yet a basement or cellar. :)
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Makes sense, but then I live in England and have only ever seen one real tornado (and that was a minor one) so I doubt this advice will prove readily useful... how to survive excessive rain however ;)
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Originally posted by Alikchi
In all seriousness, don't get in the car, tornadoes travel at about 60 miles per hour.
dont get it, cars can travel atleast a good 100 mph
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I think this is a slightly distorted version of the real piece of advice, which is: When trying to outrun a tornado, get out of your golf cart.
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From the FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) site:
Go at once to a windowless, interior room; storm cellar; basement; or lowest level of the building.
If there is no basement, go to an inner hallway or a smaller inner room without windows, such as a bathroom or closet.
Get away from the windows.
Go to the center of the room. Stay away from corners because they tend to attract debris.
Get under a piece of sturdy furniture such as a workbench or heavy table or desk and hold on to it.
Use arms to protect head and neck.
If in a mobile home, get out and find shelter elsewhere.
If at work or school:
Go to the basement or to an inside hallway at the lowest level.
Avoid places with wide-span roofs such as auditoriums, cafeterias, large hallways, or shopping malls.
Get under a piece of sturdy furniture such as a workbench or heavy table or desk and hold on to it.
Use arms to protect head and neck.
If outdoors:
If possible, get inside a building.
If shelter is not available or there is no time to get indoors, lie in a ditch or low-lying area or crouch near a strong building. Be aware of the potential for flooding.
Use arms to protect head and neck.
If in a car:
Never try to outdrive a tornado in a car or truck. Tornadoes can change direction quickly and can lift up a car or truck and toss it through the air.
Get out of the car immediately and take shelter in a nearby building.
If there is no time to get indoors, get out of the car and lie in a ditch or low-lying area away from the vehicle. Be aware of the potential for flooding.
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From me: The FEMA is full of ****. I wouldn't listen to what a bureaucracy had to say on their own toes, much less what to do in an emergency no FEMA expert has likely ever even come close to experiencing. I see a good-sized natural disaster coming right at me at 60mph., screw them, I'm running. Or doing the fastest equivalent.
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Good luck. :p
But really, those are good rules - time tested, too. You can't run.
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Originally posted by Alikchi
Good luck. :p
But really, those are good rules - time tested, too. You can't run.
bah, just hit your sub space drives :D
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Originally posted by Corsair
Sux about the tornados. Although, New England isn't supposed to have earthquakes (no fault line nearby) and we had one that was 5.0 on the Richter scale a few days ago!
And I slept right through it :p
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Originally posted by Grey Wolf 2009
And I slept right through it :p
must... not... say... stupid... comentary... now
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Originally posted by Thunder
Makes sense, but then I live in England and have only ever seen one real tornado (and that was a minor one) so I doubt this advice will prove readily useful... how to survive excessive rain however ;)
so tell me, how do you survive london fog while driving on the wrong side of the road
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Originally posted by Corsair
that sounds like Spaceballs...
:D
Sux about the tornados. Although, New England isn't supposed to have earthquakes (no fault line nearby) and we had one that was 5.0 on the Richter scale a few days ago!
You live in New England?! Where? I'm in New Hampshire!
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i still say get in a car and floor it, going in a direction at a 90 degree angle from that of the tornado. Not much will stop and F5 from picking you out of a ditch. And while those things do jump, they do move rather predictably for the most part, just make sure you can keep your eyes on the base of the vortex at all times and watch when it jumps.
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Originally posted by delta_7890
You live in New England?! Where? I'm in New Hampshire!
Connecticut...in fact, right outside NYC. But I go to camp in NH every summer. Do you live anywhere near Laconia, Meredith, or Center Harbor? (Lake Winnipasaukee or however you spell it).
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I think it's been a while since the last tornado around here; come to think of it, I can't even remember when the last one took place in this area...
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It was the worst tornado in that part of Maryland since 1924 was it?
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Originally posted by Dr.Zer0
must... not... say... stupid... comentary... now
Don't say something stupid because it was early in the morning on a weekend. I slept right through it too. Any normal person who sleeps past 7 would have. :p
:ha:
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I'm from Reston, VA, for any of ya who know the area.
Lot of suburban Washington DC folks round here! It's just like home :)
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Trying to outrun a tornado in a car is STUPID and will only kill you and whomever is stupid enough to go with you. Tornadoes are highly unpredictable and could easily blow you off the road if you're lucky enough to survive the flying debris. Your best bet is to find shelter.
Tornadoes have been clocked at well over 200MPH. Yeah, that automobile is really going to save you. :rolleyes: By the time you see it coming at you, you're dead. You have NO time to get out of the way.
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well if you're dead by the time you see it coming, how are you going to have time getting to shelter? Also, nothing short of an underground bunker will shelter you from an F5, even F4s can pretty much take most things to the foundations. You're better off putting as much angle and distance between you and the tornado as you can. While some tornatdoes have been clocked at 200mph, most dont move that fast. The average speed is something like 30mph; and most of them travel roughly in one general directoin with a shifting base.
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Originally posted by PhReAk
so tell me, how do you survive london fog while driving on the wrong side of the road
:p
I live on the south coast of england in a little seaside town called Worthing, it's about 3/4 of the way along from the west. It rains. Alot.