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Title: Vote For The Good Guys (And Axem)
Post by: General Battuta on November 17, 2010, 10:20:30 am: Gentlemen, you know your duty. Victory is beyond us. But let it not be said that the men, woman, and iamzack of Hard Light Productions did not have the testicular fortitude to scream into the storm.

The Tripartite New Alliance of Recent Mods needs your click in 2010's Mod of the Year awards. You have all the votes you need. Use them.

Vote for Wings of Dawn (http://www.moddb.com/mods/wings-of-dawn)

War in Heaven (http://www.moddb.com/mods/blue-planet-war-in-heaven)

and Vassago's Dirge. (http://www.moddb.com/mods/vassagos-dirge)

We all hang out together on IRC, sharing our skillz. Now it's your turn to pool some resources. 3-NARM is counting on you.

FRAK. Feel free to vote for Diaspora (http://www.moddb.com/games/diaspora) as Indie of the Year as well.
Title: Re: Vote For The Good Guys (And Axem)
Post by: Rodo on November 17, 2010, 10:42:51 am: +1 Vote for all mods... and some others as well.
Title: Re: Vote For The Good Guys (And Axem)
Post by: Angelus on November 17, 2010, 11:10:41 am: Diaspora and VD FTW!!!
Title: Re: Vote For The Good Guys (And Axem)
Post by: General Battuta on November 17, 2010, 11:14:19 am: Quote from: Angelus on November 17, 2010, 11:10:41 am
Diaspora and VD FTW!!!

You're not limited to one vote per category (mod and indie), just FYI.
Title: Re: Vote For The Good Guys (And Axem)
Post by: Angelus on November 17, 2010, 11:29:30 am: Ah, thx for the info. Voted!
Title: Re: Vote For The Good Guys (And Axem)
Post by: Aurora Paradox on November 17, 2010, 12:31:55 pm: I already voted for WIH and just finished voting for the other mods listed. Could we get this highlighted per chance? I know its not a mod release but I would love to see one of these mods make the top 100.
Title: Re: Vote For The Good Guys (And Axem)
Post by: General Battuta on November 17, 2010, 12:35:16 pm: Quote from: Aurora Paradox on November 17, 2010, 12:31:55 pm
I already voted for WIH and just finished voting for the other mods listed. Could we get this highlighted per chance? I know its not a mod release but I would love to see one of these mods make the top 100.

Not likely to happen with our numbers, and I dunno, I'm reluctant to highlight something with these three specifically. For example although it hasn't released anything I think Inferno is also up in contention; same with Earth Defense. I personally will only be voting for things that have released this year, and, uh, Diaspora.
Title: Re: Vote For The Good Guys (And Axem)
Post by: Pred the Penguin on November 17, 2010, 08:11:19 pm: If I could I would vote a hundred times over for those mods.
Maybe they're not the best out of all mods on ModDB, but they're definitely better than most and FS deserves more attention.
Title: Re: Vote For The Good Guys (And Axem)
Post by: TrashMan on November 21, 2010, 03:41:34 am: Now why haven't I put up my mod on ModDB? :blah:

Stupid, stupid brain....
Title: Re: Vote For The Good Guys (And Axem)
Post by: Polpolion on November 21, 2010, 01:25:52 pm: Quote from: Pred the Penguin on November 17, 2010, 08:11:19 pm
Maybe they're not the best out of all mods on ModDB

Name 5 non-freespace mods that are better than VD.
Title: Re: Vote For The Good Guys (And Axem)
Post by: Mobius on November 21, 2010, 01:49:45 pm: Just voted all suggested mods, plus Diaspora. :)
Title: Re: Vote For The Good Guys (And Axem)
Post by: General Battuta on November 21, 2010, 01:52:40 pm: Quote from: Mobius on November 21, 2010, 01:49:45 pm
Just voted all suggested mods, plus Diaspora. :)

We could add Inferno and ED as well. I know they both have ModDB pages even if they're not released yet.
Title: Re: Vote For The Good Guys (And Axem)
Post by: Colonol Dekker on November 21, 2010, 02:19:36 pm: Quote from: Angelus on November 17, 2010, 11:10:41 am
VD FTW!!!

My clinic disagrees :(

votes cast for every mod i liked. so my votes counted for naught in hindsight X(
Title: Re: Vote For The Good Guys (And Axem)
Post by: Mobius on November 21, 2010, 02:33:41 pm: Quote from: General Battuta on November 21, 2010, 01:52:40 pm
We could add Inferno and ED as well. I know they both have ModDB pages even if they're not released yet.

Shouldn't we suggest people to vote released mods, only?
Title: Re: Vote For The Good Guys (And Axem)
Post by: General Battuta on November 21, 2010, 02:42:42 pm: Well, that was why I didn't link them originally, yeah.
Title: Re: Vote For The Good Guys (And Axem)
Post by: Mobius on November 21, 2010, 03:01:29 pm: That's it. :nod:
Title: Re: Vote For The Good Guys (And Axem)
Post by: redsniper on November 21, 2010, 09:01:59 pm: Quote from: General Battuta on November 17, 2010, 10:20:30 am
Gentlemen, you know your duty. Victory is beyond us. But let it not be said that the men, woman, and iamzack of Hard Light Productions did not have the testicular fortitude to scream into the storm.
I just want to say that I greatly appreciate the style of this speech and the attitude evinced. Votes have been cast. Though we have no hope of winning, we will not go quietly into the night, but face defeat with our heads held high.

Spoiler:
I also like that iamzack is a category unto itself O_o
Title: Re: Vote For The Good Guys (And Axem)
Post by: karajorma on November 22, 2010, 02:29:11 am: Quote from: redsniper on November 21, 2010, 09:01:59 pm
Though we have no hope of winning, we will not go quietly into the night, but face defeat with our heads held high.

Ummmm. BtRL won a few years back you know. :p
Title: Re: Vote For The Good Guys (And Axem)
Post by: Spoon on November 22, 2010, 06:58:32 am: Because the popularity of battlestar galactica is comparable to a 11 year old game that didn't sold well amirite?
Title: Re: Vote For The Good Guys (And Axem)
Post by: Darklord42 on November 22, 2010, 07:14:33 am: Quote from: karajorma on November 22, 2010, 02:29:11 am
Ummmm. BtRL won a few years back you know. :p
Yah well one word, Minecraft...
Title: Re: Vote For The Good Guys (And Axem)
Post by: S-99 on November 22, 2010, 10:23:31 am: Wonder if inferno will win?
Title: Re: Vote For The Good Guys (And Axem)
Post by: General Battuta on November 22, 2010, 10:30:22 am: Quote from: S-99 on November 22, 2010, 10:23:31 am
Wonder if inferno will win?

No non-Diaspora FreeSpace mod will win. Of the non-Diaspora FreeSpace mods on ModDB, Diaspora, Blue Planet and Inferno have the biggest presences. Only one of those is released.
Title: Re: Vote For The Good Guys (And Axem)
Post by: S-99 on November 22, 2010, 11:03:47 am: Well then you forgot something on the list :lol: I'm just joking of course.
Title: Re: Vote For The Good Guys (And Axem)
Post by: Xelion on November 22, 2010, 11:13:54 am: Quote from: karajorma on November 22, 2010, 02:29:11 am
Ummmm. BtRL won a few years back you know. :p

If I'm not mistaken, in 2007 under indie games - http://www.moddb.com/events/2007-mod-of-the-year-awards/top100 (http://www.moddb.com/events/2007-mod-of-the-year-awards/top100)

I'm probably gonna get a lot of flak for this :p but looking at all the mods that have been in all the categories for previous ModDB MOTYs and the quality of those mods... has been to a pretty high standard and that many Freespace2 mods just don't have that level of quality :(. Having said that, what I can say is that certain aspects of all those Freespace2 mods I've seen and played do have some qualities that are at the top of their game :D. I'd just love to see a mod that pools those great qualities together that could one day crap on 1st person shooter mods :lol: ....no seriously :yes:
Title: Re: Vote For The Good Guys (And Axem)
Post by: General Battuta on November 22, 2010, 11:41:52 am: I would back Vassago's Dirge or, heck, War in Heaven against any of those mods, though. I think the recent batch of FreeSpace campaign releases does more, as a single player story experience, than most commercial or mod products these days.
Title: Re: Vote For The Good Guys (And Axem)
Post by: Mobius on November 22, 2010, 11:52:36 am: I remember a discussion on ModDB where people claimed they now tend to prefer 100% original mods/indies over those based on popular universes. They may be exceptions, though.
Title: Re: Vote For The Good Guys (And Axem)
Post by: Xelion on November 22, 2010, 04:07:34 pm: Battuta I'm all for the story, thats why I love Freespace2 so much... and Vassago's Dirge has got me excited :nod: I live for storylines :D
Title: Re: Vote For The Good Guys (And Axem)
Post by: General Battuta on November 22, 2010, 04:08:52 pm: Quote from: Xelion on November 22, 2010, 04:07:34 pm
Battuta I'm all for the story, thats why I love Freespace2 so much... and Vassago's Dirge has got me excited :nod: I live for storylines :D

All three of the recent big releases are very story-focused and have a lot of experimental gameplay as well. I don't think you'll be disappointed.
Title: Re: Vote For The Good Guys (And Axem)
Post by: Scotty on November 22, 2010, 04:49:00 pm: Quote from: General Battuta on November 22, 2010, 10:30:22 am
Quote from: S-99 on November 22, 2010, 10:23:31 am
Wonder if inferno will win?

No non-Diaspora FreeSpace mod will win. Of the non-Diaspora FreeSpace mods on ModDB, Diaspora, Blue Planet and Inferno have the biggest presences. Only one of those is released.

:P
Title: Re: Vote For The Good Guys (And Axem)
Post by: General Battuta on November 22, 2010, 04:50:50 pm: You're very clever, spotting typographical errors. Should read Earth Defense.
Title: Re: Vote For The Good Guys (And Axem)
Post by: karajorma on November 23, 2010, 07:29:04 am: Quote from: Spoon on November 22, 2010, 06:58:32 am
Because the popularity of battlestar galactica is comparable to a 11 year old game that didn't sold well amirite?

You mean Diaspora isn't about Battlestar Galactica?

WHY DIDN'T SOMEONE TELL ME! :hopping:
Title: Re: Vote For The Good Guys (And Axem)
Post by: Spoon on November 23, 2010, 09:55:43 am: Euuuh... okay?
Title: Re: Vote For The Good Guys (And Axem)
Post by: FUBAR-BDHR on November 23, 2010, 08:04:53 pm: Don't forget that other released TC out there: http://www.moddb.com/games/the-babylon-project
Title: Re: Vote For The Good Guys (And Axem)
Post by: Quanto on November 24, 2010, 04:14:53 pm: No love for us? (http://www.indiedb.com/games/stellar-assault-fso) :(
Title: Re: Vote For The Good Guys (And Axem)
Post by: General Battuta on November 24, 2010, 04:25:28 pm: Quote from: Quanto on November 24, 2010, 04:14:53 pm
No love for us? (http://www.indiedb.com/games/stellar-assault-fso) :(

I've only posted links to released content here. And Diaspora, because it's Diaspora and has such enormous breakout appeal.
Title: Re: Vote For The Good Guys (And Axem)
Post by: LoneKnight on November 25, 2010, 02:48:48 am: Quote from: General Battuta on November 17, 2010, 11:14:19 am
You're not limited to one vote per category (mod and indie), just FYI.

Aren't all mods considered indie?
Title: Re: Vote For The Good Guys (And Axem)
Post by: FUBAR-BDHR on November 25, 2010, 03:08:02 am: No mods are mods of games or even Indie games. Indie games are what we call total conversions around here.
Title: Re: Vote For The Good Guys (And Axem)
Post by: Mobius on November 27, 2010, 04:44:50 am: Depends. All standalone TCs are considered indie games on ModDB, and TCs that require a given game to run are called... mods.
Title: Re: Vote For The Good Guys (And Axem)
Post by: FUBAR-BDHR on December 01, 2010, 02:07:57 am: Well looks like not one FS2 mod made it to the top 100. Still waiting on Indie list.

Update: Diaspora made it into the top 50 Indie.
Title: Re: Vote For The Good Guys (And Axem)
Post by: Spoon on December 01, 2010, 07:18:22 am: So I'm seeing 3 freelancer mods in that top 100
and I dont think they even have a catagory for freespace on that site.

wat. :sigh:
Title: Re: Vote For The Good Guys (And Axem)
Post by: karajorma on December 01, 2010, 07:50:30 am: Quote from: Spoon on December 01, 2010, 07:18:22 am
and I dont think they even have a catagory for freespace on that site.

Eh (http://www.moddb.com/games/freespace-2/mods)?
Title: Re: Vote For The Good Guys (And Axem)
Post by: Rodo on December 01, 2010, 09:31:04 am: ~~Well diaspora made it to the top 100 Indies, congrats!~~

Quote from: FUBAR-BDHR on December 01, 2010, 02:07:57 am
Update: Diaspora made it into the top 50 Indie.

We're all pushing for ya!
Title: Re: Vote For The Good Guys (And Axem)
Post by: Spoon on December 01, 2010, 11:00:07 am: Quote from: karajorma on December 01, 2010, 07:50:30 am
Quote from: Spoon on December 01, 2010, 07:18:22 am
and I dont think they even have a catagory for freespace on that site.

Eh (http://www.moddb.com/games/freespace-2/mods)?

There (http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/4899/2010a.png)
is (http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/5642/2009n.png)
not (http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/6821/2008u.png)
a (http://www.moddb.com/events/2007-mod-of-the-year-awards/top100)
single (http://www.moddb.com/events/2006-mod-of-the-year-awards/top100)
freespace (http://www.moddb.com/events/2005-mod-of-the-year-awards/top100)
mod (http://www.moddb.com/events/2004-mod-of-the-year-awards/top100)
in the top 100 of that site, ever. (http://www.moddb.com/events/2003-mod-of-the-year-awards/top100)
Yet nexus and freelancer both have a few.
Title: Re: Vote For The Good Guys (And Axem)
Post by: Rodo on December 01, 2010, 11:02:53 am: Then we need to get better campaigns done for the next year, right?
Title: Re: Vote For The Good Guys (And Axem)
Post by: General Battuta on December 01, 2010, 11:06:22 am: Quote from: Rodo on December 01, 2010, 11:02:53 am
Then we need to get better campaigns done for the next year, right?

ha

Except for Diaspora, we simply don't attract enough of a fanbase to outvote the Source and UE3 stuff.
Title: Re: Vote For The Good Guys (And Axem)
Post by: karajorma on December 01, 2010, 04:58:43 pm: Yep, the problem is that we don't have a big enough fan base. Remember FS2 didn't sell that well, that's why we didn't get FS3.
Title: Re: Vote For The Good Guys (And Axem)
Post by: MatthTheGeek on December 01, 2010, 06:07:03 pm: Yeah, but I prefer OUR fanbase to theirs anytime.
Title: Re: Vote For The Good Guys (And Axem)
Post by: TrashMan on December 02, 2010, 01:50:32 am: Hear, hear...At least we have good taste.
Title: Re: Vote For The Good Guys (And Axem)
Post by: Spoon on December 02, 2010, 09:18:50 am: Quote from: TrashMan on December 02, 2010, 01:50:32 am
Hear, hear...At least we have good taste.
We do?
When did That happen? :p
Title: Re: Vote For The Good Guys (And Axem)
Post by: Pred the Penguin on December 02, 2010, 09:47:04 am: Since most FPS mods never seem to satisfy the mind anymore...
There are few exceptions.
Title: Re: Vote For The Good Guys (And Axem)
Post by: FUBAR-BDHR on December 03, 2010, 01:39:08 am: Well from leaving the scoreboard up and glancing at it occasionally by my count it seem that something called miner wars is beating us in the futuristic sim category. We need to get the vote out. Remember if you voted before the 1st you need to go vote again for the finals.
Title: Re: Vote For The Good Guys (And Axem)
Post by: Aurora Paradox on December 03, 2010, 05:16:36 pm: I've already put in my vote for Diaspora in the top 100. I was really hoping WIH Part 1 would make it in but alas it didn't. I knew the odds weren't great but I still held out a small sliver of hope. There is always next year I guess.
Title: Re: Vote For The Good Guys (And Axem)
Post by: newman on December 04, 2010, 04:21:13 am: Quote from: Rodo on December 01, 2010, 11:02:53 am
Then we need to get better campaigns done for the next year, right?

Blue Planet alone is demonstration enough quality isn't the issue. Good luck beating that.. it deserves to be up there. The problem, I suspect, is the relative obscurity of the fs universe and modern player's lack of familiarity to it.
Dunno, maybe if BP went completely standalone it might circumvent that issue a bit. It's certainly brilliant enough to stand on it's own and attract new blood..
Yea. Once all the episodes are out, maybe try for standalone, pimp with a few CGI cutscenes.. hey, one can dream, right? :D
Title: Re: Vote For The Good Guys (And Axem)
Post by: Mobius on December 05, 2010, 01:34:10 pm: This may be the second or third time I post this, but heh...

A while ago, a guy posted a comment about FreeSpace mods on ModDB. He claimed they're far better than any other sci-fi mod there, yet still the FS community doesn't do enough to promote its work on that site. That results in other games attracting all the attention.

Guess what, I wholeheartedly agree with that statement. We could literally fill that site with released and WIP mods and look like a living community, but don't. Any non-HLPer looking at the list of FS2 mods on ModDB would think the community is nearly dead. Look at a) the number of mods, b) the release dates and c) the released-to-unreleased ratio:

http://www.moddb.com/games/freespace-2/mods

What kind of impression do they give to visitors? I'm 150% sure we can do a lot better than that.
Title: Re: Vote For The Good Guys (And Axem)
Post by: MatthTheGeek on December 05, 2010, 01:37:20 pm: ModDB sucks anyway, why bother.
Title: Re: Vote For The Good Guys (And Axem)
Post by: The E on December 05, 2010, 01:43:20 pm: Quote
Look at a) the number of mods, b) the release dates and c) the released-to-unreleased ratio:

http://www.moddb.com/games/freespace-2/mods

What kind of impression do they give to visitors? I'm 150% sure we can do a lot better than that.

And what are we, as a community, supposed to do about that? It's not like we can force campaign creators to post updates, create moddb profiles, or other stuff.
Title: Re: Vote For The Good Guys (And Axem)
Post by: Mobius on December 05, 2010, 01:48:12 pm: We should still give it a try. Take a look at Vassago's Dirge - it's not a super-uber mods with hundreds of new ships, but its awesome FREDding ensured it a comfortable position there.

The E: Can't we promote ModDB pimping? Ask community veterans to post their campaigns there, and do similar things?
Title: Re: Vote For The Good Guys (And Axem)
Post by: General Battuta on December 05, 2010, 01:50:34 pm: Are you arguing about mod quality or ModDB page quality?
Title: Re: Vote For The Good Guys (And Axem)
Post by: The E on December 05, 2010, 01:51:56 pm: If you wish to create a moddb page for the FSCRP, go ahead. If you wish to ask people to create moddb pages for their stuff, go ahead.
Title: Re: Vote For The Good Guys (And Axem)
Post by: Mobius on December 05, 2010, 02:03:12 pm: There's an FSCRP page there, but it's not linked to the main FS2 profile.

About asking other people to create mod profiles - I have been doing that for a while, but I can't do it alone.
Title: Re: Vote For The Good Guys (And Axem)
Post by: The E on December 05, 2010, 02:09:18 pm: Well, good luck finding someone else who cares about this issue enough to help you. Personally, I find this sort of thing highly annoying.