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Title: playing judas mission
Post by: alphaace on November 20, 2010, 12:47:32 pm: Hi,

I'm trying to do the playing judas mission and it's just incredibly frustrating. Every time I get to where the EVA jumps in and then I either can get close enough in time or I get caught or something. This mission just isn't much fun. Is there a cheat code I can do to just skip it?

I tried typing www.volition-inc.com as I found in a walkthrough but with no luck.

Thanks for your help!
Title: Re: playing judas mission
Post by: General Battuta on November 20, 2010, 12:49:50 pm: Try pressing f3 or f4 (don't remember which) to go to a list of all the wings in the mission. Click on all the hostile wings to add them to your f5 monitor group. Leave the menu, press f5, and you should get silver brackets around all of them so you can keep track of where they are.

It's a dumb mission.
Title: Re: playing judas mission
Post by: alphaace on November 20, 2010, 12:57:49 pm: really, there's no cheats for it?

grrr, no point in playing it if it's not fun.
Title: Re: playing judas mission
Post by: General Battuta on November 20, 2010, 12:58:28 pm: Well you can always make yourself invulnerable. Are you playing FS1 or FSPort?

or just abandon FS1 and move on to the superior FS2 :nervous:
Title: Re: playing judas mission
Post by: Galemp on November 20, 2010, 01:19:36 pm: Try pumping all your energy to engines, since you won't be needing weapons or shields at all. It'll give you a higher top speed and faster AB recharge.
Title: Re: playing judas mission
Post by: Nohiki on November 20, 2010, 03:21:24 pm: I think this is the best mission of FS1 :nod: If you can't go through this then i'd like to see your outcome in Black Omega, i had to do it 5 times before i passed it :lol: The best help here is the radar. If you hear command say that something is closing in, maneuver your fighter until all the blips are on the side and the center is clear, and then go full speed. That way you are getting farther from everything. Once you are far enough, you can use that you can see much more from distance to plot your approach vector :)
Title: Re: playing judas mission
Post by: Mongoose on November 20, 2010, 05:13:54 pm: I've still yet to have nearly as much difficulty on this mission as many seem to, which I guess must be due to pure dumb luck on my part. My usual strategy is to just fly straight to the general vicinity of the node from the starting point, making sure to keep out of the way of any members of Arjuna wing that might drift close. I usually wind up just parking myself fairly close to the node, but a bit below its plane, to avoid getting rammed by the ships warping in. If Command gives you a warning about getting close to the sentry guns, you're in about the right spot. Arjuna wing doesn't seem to ever fly close to that area, and I'm free to pick off the ship scans as they warp in. I can pick off the cargo scans for the bonus objective in-between the earlier waves, or even after one of the freighters has docked if I'm being slow. As soon as the Eva begins to warp in, start afterburning in the same direction; you'll eventually start to catch up and get close enough for the scan.
Title: Re: playing judas mission
Post by: Shivan Hunter on November 20, 2010, 05:54:22 pm: Yeah, I always just fly straight to the cargo and scan it; Arjuna never gets close when I do that at top speed. Once I've scanned the cargo, the first wing of ships is in the area and waiting to be scanned, and the others follow pretty soon. I usually stay right with the ships, scanning one wing then making way straight to the next, and I rarely ever get a warning about Arjuna.

With the Eva, just stay under it. Fly towards it as it comes in, and try to stay with it as it passes. When its speed gets down below your own, stay under/behind it and fly with it as you scan it.

Scan the Lucifer as it passes by you, and stay behind it as the scan finishes. Unfortunately you can't avoid what happens next; stay near the Lucifer and a wing will fly out and detect you. You're not faster than either of them, so just keep dodging until your jump drive comes back online, at which point fly through the swarm of fighters so they have to turn around to face you, and jump out. By the time they start shooting again you should be in the jump vortex.
Title: Re: playing judas mission
Post by: DarthWang on November 20, 2010, 08:04:42 pm: IMO they should have called this mission "Playing Jonah" instead
Title: Re: playing judas mission
Post by: Hades on November 20, 2010, 08:34:50 pm: Quote from: General Battuta on November 20, 2010, 12:58:28 pm
or just abandon FS1 and move on to the superior FS2 :nervous:
trollololo
Title: Re: playing judas mission
Post by: Klaustrophobia on November 21, 2010, 12:37:28 am: i've never once been detected in this mission. all you have to do is fly straight to the cargo, then park at the node and scan ships as they come in. follow them for as long as necessary to complete scans, then 180 back to the node and wait for the next.
Title: Re: playing judas mission
Post by: QuantumDelta on November 21, 2010, 03:51:23 am: Yup, even on insane, breezey mission.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SvJYm3BTxU
Title: Re: playing judas mission
Post by: BlackDove on November 21, 2010, 06:29:45 am: In FS2, do you still ghost through EVA and the Lucy due to their entry speed?

I played the port pretty recently but didn't try it out.
Title: Re: playing judas mission
Post by: Klaustrophobia on November 21, 2010, 07:13:33 am: i must have. never noticed a difference there between port and retail.
Title: Re: playing judas mission
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on November 28, 2010, 03:07:30 am: Quote from: alphaace on November 20, 2010, 12:57:49 pm
really, there's no cheats for it?

Spoiler:
Hold down ~ + K after typing www.freespace2.com?

Quote from: BlackDove on November 21, 2010, 06:29:45 am
In FS2, do you still ghost through EVA and the Lucy due to their entry speed?

I played the port pretty recently but didn't try it out.

In FSPort? You still do when I tried it last year.
Title: Re: playing judas mission
Post by: Sushi on November 28, 2010, 10:25:50 am: Quote from: General Battuta on November 20, 2010, 12:49:50 pm
It's a dumb mission.

Heresy!

IMHO this is one of the more memorable (and fun) missions of the original FS1 campaign.

I never have any problems with it either. Just get to the node, then only fly straight towards or away from it. Imagine a cylinder extending from the node to the destination of all of the capships that jump in. They all stay inside this tube, and Arjuna wing flies around the outside of it. Stay in the middle of the cylinder and you'll be fine.