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Title: Send legal threats to innocent people, make money (Anti-piracy lawyers)
Post by: Nemesis6 on November 22, 2010, 06:24:52 am
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A pair of lawyers knowingly sent out letters to innocent people as part of their anti-piracy work, a legal watchdog has claimed.

Davenport Lyons issued letters on behalf of rights owners to people accused of pirating content based on IP address data.

The two parters, David Gore and Brian Miller, sent the 6,000 letters on behalf of video games makers, threatening legal action if recipients didn't pay a settlement of £525.

The Solicitors Regulation Authority (SRA) said last year it would take action against the pair, and has now laid out its case, claiming Gore and Miller were fully aware that the IP data they used to identify accused file-sharers was flawed.

The SRA's filing said the two lawyers "knew that in conducting generic campaigns against those identified as IP holders whose IP numeric had been used for downloading or uploading of material that they might in such generic campaigns be targeting people innocent of any copyright breach."

The watchdog also accuses the Davenport Lyons pair of allowing their independence to be compromised, by turning the letter campaign into a revenue generator rather than a legal case - meaning they acted in their own financial interests instead of their clients.

The lawyers convinced right holders to allow them to act on their behalf by waiving hourly fees and instead taking a cut of the settlements. The pair earned £150,000 of the £370,000 collected from alleged file-sharers.

Because they were looking to recoup their own costs, the lawyers ignored clients' concerns about the negative publicity the letter campaign could - and eventually did - cause, the SRA claimed.

The SRA said the lawyers persisted with the letters against the advice of their own counsel, and "despite knowing that disquiet was being caused by their campaign, and that they might be targeting innocent individuals."

The case will be heard in May next year. Davenport Lyons has since stopped the practice, and another firm, ACS:Law also faces SRA action.

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/362980/anti-piracy-lawyers-knew-letters-targeted-innocent-people
Title: Re: Send legal threats to innocent people, make money (Anti-piracy lawyers)
Post by: Dilmah G on November 22, 2010, 06:35:46 am
Jeez, what a pair of dickheads.  :mad:
Title: Re: Send legal threats to innocent people, make money (Anti-piracy lawyers)
Post by: CommanderDJ on November 22, 2010, 06:42:16 am
What he said.
Title: Re: Send legal threats to innocent people, make money (Anti-piracy lawyers)
Post by: sigtau on November 22, 2010, 06:49:33 am
What he said.
Title: Re: Send legal threats to innocent people, make money (Anti-piracy lawyers)
Post by: iamzack on November 22, 2010, 07:35:23 am
What he said.
Title: Re: Send legal threats to innocent people, make money (Anti-piracy lawyers)
Post by: Herra Tohtori on November 22, 2010, 07:55:35 am
Time for a definitions game.

Quote from: Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackmail)
Blackmail is the act of threatening to reveal substantially true information about a person to the public, a family member, or associates unless a demand is met. This information is usually of an embarrassing, socially damaging, and/or incriminating nature. As the information is substantially true, the act of revealing the information may not be criminal in its own right nor amount to a civil law defamation; it is the making of demands in exchange for withholding the information that is often considered a crime.

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18 U.S.C. § 873 states, "Whoever, under a threat of informing, or as a consideration for not informing, against any violation of any law of the United States, demands or receives any money or other valuable thing, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both."


Copyright infringements are in violation of copyright law.

These lawyers have, as a consideration for not informing the courts, demanded money as a settlement from alleged copyright violators.

I'd say this is pretty much exactly the definition of blackmail.
Title: Re: Send legal threats to innocent people, make money (Anti-piracy lawyers)
Post by: redsniper on November 22, 2010, 08:39:52 am
Except it's not substantially true. They're accusing people of a crime without knowing for sure they've committed one.
Title: Re: Send legal threats to innocent people, make money (Anti-piracy lawyers)
Post by: Herra Tohtori on November 22, 2010, 09:41:02 am
Except it's not substantially true. They're accusing people of a crime without knowing for sure they've committed one.

In that case it's extortion.

Protection racket, essentially. "Pay us your gold to avoid going to court, which is a situation that might cost you substantial sum of money even if the verdict is not guilty, which you can not be sure even if you are innocent of the crime we accuse you of."
Title: Re: Send legal threats to innocent people, make money (Anti-piracy lawyers)
Post by: Liberator on November 22, 2010, 02:22:26 pm
This is a perfect example of an activity that probably goes on far more than we suspect.
Title: Re: Send legal threats to innocent people, make money (Anti-piracy lawyers)
Post by: achtung on November 22, 2010, 03:51:10 pm
Lawyers screwing with innocent people to get money.

Story at 11.