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Title: PS3: Worth Buying?
Post by: Demitri on November 23, 2010, 02:06:38 pm
Exactly as is topic says, but a little back story never hurt methinks...

Been toying with the idea of getting one for a good while now but can never make up my mind and seeing as crimbo is on the horizon, i am again considering whether to treat myself. I currently play all my games on PC and not had a console since i got rid of my PS2 some years ago. The main reason I'm looking at the PS3 is because of the built in blu ray player.

So the question becomes, is it worth buying this and have the option to play games on it or buy a dedicated blu ray player?

Answers on a post card please :p
Title: Re: PS3: Worth Buying?
Post by: General Battuta on November 23, 2010, 02:10:18 pm
There are a number of excellent games for the PS3. Almost everything worth playing is now cross-platform, and the PS3's exclusives are also strong.
Title: Re: PS3: Worth Buying?
Post by: phatosealpha on November 23, 2010, 02:57:07 pm
I've got all three consoles.  Currently, the PS3 is the only one that gets any serious use.
Do yourself a favor and check out the move.
Title: Re: PS3: Worth Buying?
Post by: MR_T3D on November 23, 2010, 05:46:14 pm
ps3 has a few fun games, and OMG GRAN TURISMO 5 IS OUT TOMORROW!!1
Title: Re: PS3: Worth Buying?
Post by: Galemp on November 23, 2010, 05:52:46 pm
We also have all three consoles. I use the Wii, RedStreblo uses the XBox, and the PS3 we really only use for watching Blu-Ray and DVD movies.
Title: Re: PS3: Worth Buying?
Post by: Klaustrophobia on November 23, 2010, 07:46:59 pm
i saw a $40 blu-ray drive somewhere not long ago.  i'd go with something like that unless there are specific games you want the PS3 for.
Title: Re: PS3: Worth Buying?
Post by: Dilmah G on November 23, 2010, 09:10:04 pm
What are you planning to do with this baby? If it's playing games by yourself, then the PS3 is probably your best bet. Are you going to LAN it up with mates? If so, what consoles do they have? That's the kind of stuff I reckon you should take into account.
Title: Re: PS3: Worth Buying?
Post by: Nemesis6 on November 24, 2010, 04:50:39 am
My little observation as a non-console-gamer - The PS3 has horrible performance, and slightly worse graphics like the the 360. If you intend to play split screen, it's gonna get unbearable, performance-wise.
Title: Re: PS3: Worth Buying?
Post by: Grizzly on November 24, 2010, 06:05:06 am
My little observation as a non-console-gamer - The PS3 has horrible performance, and slightly worse graphics like the the 360. If you intend to play split screen, it's gonna get unbearable, performance-wise.

Ya know. I think you are completely wrong. If Split Screen does not work on an PS3 without serious performaance issues, either split screen is removed or the performance issues are resolved. There is no "your PS3 is too slow to run this game" because there is only one PS3. You never should have performance issues.

I know someone who has been using PS3 and PC together. She really likes the HD and Blu Ray functionality on the PS3 and she likes the games... so...

oH! and Gran Tourismo if you are in racing games, is a must have.
Title: Re: PS3: Worth Buying?
Post by: redsniper on November 24, 2010, 11:13:20 am
Try to find a backwards-compatible one. Then you can play ALL playstation games. (except for the ones that don't emulate well...)
Title: Re: PS3: Worth Buying?
Post by: Demitri on November 24, 2010, 11:30:49 am
What are you planning to do with this baby? If it's playing games by yourself, then the PS3 is probably your best bet. Are you going to LAN it up with mates? If so, what consoles do they have? That's the kind of stuff I reckon you should take into account.
Purely a solo affair. Had some games in mind that would prefer to play on console than PC, racing and football(soccer) games such as Gran Turismo and Fifa. From a personal point of view FPS's are solely the domain of the PC. Just doesn't feel right using a gamepad instead of using a mouse and keyboard.

EDIT: also the blu ray thing is at the front of my thinking compared to other consoles which is why I'm not really bothering to discuss their merits, of which i am sure there are many.
Title: Re: PS3: Worth Buying?
Post by: Unknown Target on November 24, 2010, 01:24:43 pm
Honestly I don't think it really matters anymore. Unless you're a huge fan of Japanese franchises (Metal Gear, Gran Turismo etc),  then exclusives pretty much don't matter anymore. If you want a few specific games then you could go for it, in all honesty they'll probably be the only ones you play for most of the time anyway - most of the other games that come out for consoles are either closs platform, shovelware, or both.
Title: Re: PS3: Worth Buying?
Post by: SpardaSon21 on November 24, 2010, 01:53:16 pm
God of War 3.  'Nuff said.
Title: Re: PS3: Worth Buying?
Post by: Black Wolf on November 24, 2010, 09:25:24 pm
PS3 is at the centre of my lounge room - it's the only thing we use. BluRay, DVD, games, internet streaming TV and streaming [BLOCKED BY FURY] TV over the wireless. Useful machine.
Title: Re: PS3: Worth Buying?
Post by: Titan on November 24, 2010, 09:38:39 pm
no.
Title: Re: PS3: Worth Buying?
Post by: Dilmah G on November 25, 2010, 02:16:55 am
What are you planning to do with this baby? If it's playing games by yourself, then the PS3 is probably your best bet. Are you going to LAN it up with mates? If so, what consoles do they have? That's the kind of stuff I reckon you should take into account.
Purely a solo affair. Had some games in mind that would prefer to play on console than PC, racing and football(soccer) games such as Gran Turismo and Fifa. From a personal point of view FPS's are solely the domain of the PC. Just doesn't feel right using a gamepad instead of using a mouse and keyboard.

EDIT: also the blu ray thing is at the front of my thinking compared to other consoles which is why I'm not really bothering to discuss their merits, of which i am sure there are many.
Ah well, from memory, all the FIFA games are on PS and GT is of course a PS thing, as with most of the other racing series'. IMO, you're better off with a PS3.

Box has a few more exclusive shooter titles which you've said you aren't into, but that, in addition to most of my mates having a box makes upkeeping mine worth it.
Title: Re: PS3: Worth Buying?
Post by: Kolgena on November 25, 2010, 02:24:33 am
My little observation as a non-console-gamer - The PS3 has horrible performance, and slightly worse graphics like the the 360. If you intend to play split screen, it's gonna get unbearable, performance-wise.

Only game I can think of for which this is true is Borderlands. That's because Borderlands is a (very fun) unoptimized chunk of junk.
Title: Re: PS3: Worth Buying?
Post by: Colonol Dekker on November 25, 2010, 04:24:11 am
I'd only buy a PS3 for the Metal gear games I've not yet played.
Title: Re: PS3: Worth Buying?
Post by: Nemesis6 on November 25, 2010, 04:27:35 am
My little observation as a non-console-gamer - The PS3 has horrible performance, and slightly worse graphics like the the 360. If you intend to play split screen, it's gonna get unbearable, performance-wise.

Only game I can think of for which this is true is Borderlands. That's because Borderlands is a (very fun) unoptimized chunk of junk.

Well, other games I've seen run horrible are Dead Rising 2(non-split screen), and Resident Evil 5. And take into consideration the fact that Dead Rising 2 for the PS3 uses a custom engine. Even that didn't allow them to fix the performance issues. This has to come down to the PS3's weak GPU. I mean, the CPU of the PS3 is supposed to be better than the Xbox 360 one.
Title: Re: PS3: Worth Buying?
Post by: Pred the Penguin on November 25, 2010, 04:55:41 am
All consoles have pretty good titles on them, but if you're not into a particular console exclusive (I'm into Halo so I have a Xbox) I would just stick with PC for games.
Title: Re: PS3: Worth Buying?
Post by: Mongoose on November 25, 2010, 12:22:10 pm
I almost feel like a PS3 would be worth it just for The Last Remnant alone.  <3 Team ICO.
Title: Re: PS3: Worth Buying?
Post by: MR_T3D on November 25, 2010, 12:40:58 pm
Well, other games I've seen run horrible are Dead Rising 2(non-split screen), and Resident Evil 5. And take into consideration the fact that Dead Rising 2 for the PS3 uses a custom engine. Even that didn't allow them to fix the performance issues. This has to come down to the PS3's weak GPU. I mean, the CPU of the PS3 is supposed to be better than the Xbox 360 one.
sir, look at GT5
look at your forza
now back to GT
now back to forza
now back to GT
sadly, it isn't GT
but if the 360 had the power the ps3 does, then he could look as good as GT5
look down
back up
I'm on a horse.

The ps3 has more potential, but is a ***** to get that power out of, as opposed the to 360.
Title: Re: PS3: Worth Buying?
Post by: NGTM-1R on November 25, 2010, 02:02:01 pm
sir, look at GT5
look at your forza

Sir, get your head out of your ass and actually understand the context of cross-console games looking worse on the PS3.
Title: Re: PS3: Worth Buying?
Post by: Titan on November 26, 2010, 08:00:02 am
But what's the point of a PS3? It doesn't do particularily anything good. The only reason to get one is a blu-ray player, which you can get for signifigantly less then a PS3. The only improvement over the PS2 game-wise is the graphics. It's about 7 times as big, which is a problem for people (like me) that only have a tiny cabinet like me. Why on earth would you want to use the internet without a keyboard? It's also extremely overpriced, with $60 games the norm rather then the exception they are on PC. And like I said, game-wise, it doesn't innovate anything. My friends are always making fun of my Wii; well, at least Nintendo it trying, instead of redoing what's been done for the last 10 years.
Title: Re: PS3: Worth Buying?
Post by: Dilmah G on November 26, 2010, 08:03:36 am
I believe there are racing exclusives for the PS3, which make it an attractive option if that's what you're into.
Title: Re: PS3: Worth Buying?
Post by: Titan on November 26, 2010, 08:05:17 am
I believe there are racing exclusives for the PS3, which make it an attractive option if that's what you're into.

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Title: Re: PS3: Worth Buying?
Post by: The E on November 26, 2010, 08:12:53 am
But what's the point of a PS3? It doesn't do particularily anything good. The only reason to get one is a blu-ray player, which you can get for signifigantly less then a PS3. The only improvement over the PS2 game-wise is the graphics.

The fact that the basic gameplay is basically the same as on the PS2 is a big selling point for some of us.

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It's about 7 times as big, which is a problem for people (like me) that only have a tiny cabinet like me.

And? That makes it a bad choice for you, not a bad choice in general.

 
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Why on earth would you want to use the internet without a keyboard?

You are sort of forgetting that you can hook up any old USB keyboard and mouse to the PS3.

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It's also extremely overpriced, with $60 games the norm rather then the exception they are on PC.

Welcome to the Console world.

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And like I said, game-wise, it doesn't innovate anything. My friends are always making fun of my Wii; well, at least Nintendo it trying, instead of redoing what's been done for the last 10 years.

Yawn. Yes, there are quite a few good games on the Wii that make good use of the new controls.
There's also tons of crappy ripoffs and bad conversions. As a single-use device, the Wii ain't too bad.
But the PS3, as a game machine, media stream renderer and BD-player all in one, just offers a better value for the price, if you're looking for something that can do more than just play games.
Title: Re: PS3: Worth Buying?
Post by: Dilmah G on November 26, 2010, 08:15:15 am
What The E said, dude.

Personally, I find the environment of console gaming one of the more attractive parts of it. Sure, a bunch of us can cart our laptops around to my place, plug ourselves into the router and use our keyboards to play NFS, but the atmosphere is a little more involved and in my opinion, enjoyable when we're all sat on the couch, playing on the one television.
Title: Re: PS3: Worth Buying?
Post by: Black Wolf on November 26, 2010, 11:50:15 am
Why on earth would you want to use the internet without a keyboard?

Like I said, streaming TV. ABC iView is Superfantastic for those in Australia, especially when yuo can get it quota free, and it's well integrated with the PS3.
Title: Re: PS3: Worth Buying?
Post by: IceFire on November 26, 2010, 11:08:13 pm
Although mine is being sent away for a hardware defect I really do like my PS3, the free online play through PSN, the remote is great for movie watching, and the Bluray playback is superb. It's a great media center as well.. at least for my needs.
Title: Re: PS3: Worth Buying?
Post by: Mobius on November 27, 2010, 07:03:44 am
Do PS1 games run on PS3?
Title: Re: PS3: Worth Buying?
Post by: The E on November 27, 2010, 07:07:46 am
Yes. They're even selling classic PS1 games on PSN.
Title: Re: PS3: Worth Buying?
Post by: Mobius on November 27, 2010, 07:48:10 am
Awesome! I'll probably buy a PS3 in one month, repairing my broken PS2 doesn't seem convenient now.
Title: Re: PS3: Worth Buying?
Post by: Titan on November 28, 2010, 06:35:52 am
Can it play PS2 games? Some of my friends say yes and others say no.
Title: Re: PS3: Worth Buying?
Post by: The E on November 28, 2010, 06:45:01 am
First- and second-generation PS3's, yes. Subsequent models, no.
Title: Re: PS3: Worth Buying?
Post by: Mobius on November 28, 2010, 07:00:42 am
Are those models still available?
Title: Re: PS3: Worth Buying?
Post by: The E on November 28, 2010, 07:03:36 am
Only second-hand
Title: Re: PS3: Worth Buying?
Post by: Mobius on November 28, 2010, 07:05:12 am
...

Damn.
Title: Re: PS3: Worth Buying?
Post by: Titan on November 28, 2010, 07:31:18 am
that's... stupid. What do you get in return?
Title: Re: PS3: Worth Buying?
Post by: The E on November 28, 2010, 07:35:06 am
Well, yes, it was in fact stupid.

The question isn't so much what you get, but what Sony gets. Namely, the option of re-releasing games after some PS3-specific touchups. See God Of War collection.

It's basically the same thing Microsoft did with XBox/Xbox 360 backwards compatibility.
Title: Re: PS3: Worth Buying?
Post by: Titan on November 28, 2010, 07:53:18 am
At the very least you can see how it makes good business sense for them, I guess  :doubt:
Title: Re: PS3: Worth Buying?
Post by: mxlm on November 28, 2010, 07:53:25 am
The question isn't so much what you get, but what Sony gets. Namely, the option of re-releasing games after some PS3-specific touchups. See God Of War collection.
Pretty sure it's a cost-cutting measure. You want your $300 PS3, you lose backwards compatibility, since it required a separate CPU.
Title: Re: PS3: Worth Buying?
Post by: The E on November 28, 2010, 07:57:55 am
Which is wrong. Only first-gen PS3's had the Emotion Engine CPU built-in, the emulator was entirely software-based in the second run.
Title: Re: PS3: Worth Buying?
Post by: mxlm on November 28, 2010, 08:29:42 am
Oh? My mistake, then.

I'd be inclined to believe cost-cutting over a desire to sell remastered games as the basis for the decision.
Title: Re: PS3: Worth Buying?
Post by: Titan on November 28, 2010, 05:13:06 pm
which one lets them strangle more money out of the players?  :P thats the reason.