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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Sarafan on November 27, 2010, 07:55:26 pm
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The situation is quite simple, over the last weeks drug dealers in Rio de Janeiro sparked a huge wave of violence throughout the city robbing people and burning cars, etc, unfortunately for them and fortunately for us this seemed to be the last strawn in the government's patience and now we got elements of the brazillian army, air force and marines together with the entire police force in Rio going from place to place rooting out the scum and laying a literal siege to one of the biggest favelas there.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-11855158
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=12254023
All I can say is about damn time because the city was a freaking warzone, however, a lot of people here dont want the police making any arrests, they want blood.
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DAMN YOU TASK FORCE 141, LOOK WHAT YOU'VE DONE
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So why do we want
rich drugdealer poor mexicans dead? Their just trying to make a good honest living for themselfs. Its not as 'bad' of a thing to do down there as it is up here. Were so much higher than them. Everyone does drugs there:P
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Um Rio de Janeiro isn't in Mexico.
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So why do we want rich drugdealer poor mexicans dead? Their just trying to make a good honest living for themselfs. Its not as 'bad' of a thing to do down there as it is up here. Were so much higher than them. Everyone does drugs there:P
It's Brazil, as is Sarafan. He's happy, because the government is finally trying to clean up the neighborhood.
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So why do we want rich drugdealer poor mexicans dead? Their just trying to make a good honest living for themselfs. Its not as 'bad' of a thing to do down there as it is up here. Were so much higher than them. Everyone does drugs there:P
I'm going to disregard everything about that that refers to Mexico; we all have brainfarts. ;)
I'm not going to claim that drugs are bad - I love marijuana. It's freaking awesome. However, violent gangs that traffic those drugs are not to be supported, or lumped together with "users". I know several people who pay rent, etc. with money they get from selling weed. The difference is the high level of violence associated with drug gangs. Making money selling drugs =/= violent Rio drug gangs.
We're so much higher than them.
I am, anyway. :P
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So why do we want rich drugdealer poor mexicans dead? Their just trying to make a good honest living for themselfs. Its not as 'bad' of a thing to do down there as it is up here. Were so much higher than them. Everyone does drugs there:P
This is one of the most idiotic statements I've seen in a long time.
Especially the part about how every city with a Spanish sounding name and involved in drugs MUST be in Mexico.
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So why do we want rich drugdealer poor mexicans dead? Their just trying to make a good honest living for themselfs. Its not as 'bad' of a thing to do down there as it is up here. Were so much higher than them. Everyone does drugs there:P
Yeah man, those poor Mexican drug drealers trying to make a good honest living by selling crack and shooting *****es
Wait, whaddya mean they're not Mexican
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...and now we got elements of the brazillian army, air force and marines together with the entire police force in Rio going from place to place rooting out the scum and laying a literal siege to one of the biggest favelas there.
Did they have one of these?
(http://blog.digitalcontentproducer.com/briefingroom/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/d9_still_05.jpg)
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So why do we want rich drugdealer poor mexicans dead? Their just trying to make a good honest living for themselfs. Its not as 'bad' of a thing to do down there as it is up here. Were so much higher than them. Everyone does drugs there:P
This is one of the most idiotic statements I've seen in a long time.
Especially the part about how every city with a Spanish sounding name and involved in drugs MUST be in Mexico.
i dont know, it sound portuguese to me.
So why do we want rich drugdealer poor mexicans dead? Their just trying to make a good honest living for themselfs. Its not as 'bad' of a thing to do down there as it is up here. Were so much higher than them. Everyone does drugs there:P
I'm going to disregard everything about that that refers to Mexico; we all have brainfarts. ;)
I'm not going to claim that drugs are bad - I love marijuana. It's freaking awesome. However, violent gangs that traffic those drugs are not to be supported, or lumped together with "users". I know several people who pay rent, etc. with money they get from selling weed. The difference is the high level of violence associated with drug gangs. Making money selling drugs =/= violent Rio drug gangs.
We're so much higher than them.
I am, anyway. :P
weed is awesome. of course the worst thing about weed is the people you have to buy it from. still if you legalized weed, there would still be drug cartels pedaling meth, cocaine, heroin and crack, and then youd have the marijuana trade in countries where its still illegal. you still have the sex trade and the black market to deal with.
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i dont know, it sound portuguese to me.
Pretty much everything Portuguese sounds Spanish except to those who know the difference. :p Hell, the word Rio is the same in both languages.
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Complete success. My post managed to be the most quoted and discussed. Woot. Did I earn a cookie?
Come on, it Obviously was sarcastic. I was joking on the two countries standards\levels of morality: "So much higher than them", "honest living", good vs bad, and social acceptance.
Also the "how every city with a Spanish sounding name and involved in drugs MUST be in Mexico"...
Not a brain fart, all I know about Brazil is its name. Cant mistake a city in Mexico(assuming its there) for Brazil in that case.
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You're a little retarded, aren't you?
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That was so mean you hurt my feelings, iaz. :(
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Wasn't this the country that lost like a shipment of automatic rifles in the capital at some point and had to deploy the army as a result?
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You're a little retarded, aren't you?
This made me giggle.
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Complete success. My post managed to be the most quoted and discussed. Woot. Did I earn a cookie?
When the majority of the replies involve calling you an idiot, no, it's not something to be proud of.
Come on, it Obviously was sarcastic. I was joking on the two countries standards\levels of morality: "So much higher than them", "honest living", good vs bad, and social acceptance.
Obviously. That's why no one else saw it as such.
Not a brain fart, all I know about Brazil is its name. Cant mistake a city in Mexico(assuming its there) for Brazil in that case.
Well...if you don't know about something, maybe that's a good cue to not talk about?
And it's not like it's a trick question. Google or Wikipedia for Rio de Janeiro. It's pretty obvious it's in Brazil.
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I think everything that needs to be said about the location of Rio has been said, can we return to the topic please :)
Personally, I think it's good that action is being taken, same as many posters here, I'm not going to put all people who sell drugs into the same bracket, but when it gets to the point where drug cartels are affecting the social structure of an entire city, action does need to be taken, and when that situation is as it was in Rio, it seems few options beyond armed military intervention are available.
That said, there are social issues to deal with, or the cycle will probably start over in a few years.
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policing the favelas is a practical nightmare. roads are narrow or completely non-existant. walkways have steep inclines, buildings placed chaotically. its a snipers paradise and a perfect setting for an ambush. then you got the people who live there who are completely terrorized by the drug cartels, sometimes to the point where they are afraid to do anything to help the police, or worse forced to help the cartels. its not a good situation.
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Wasn't this the country that lost like a shipment of automatic rifles in the capital at some point and had to deploy the army as a result?
Yes but the rifles were lost not in the capital but in Rio de Janeiro which is the city were all this is happening, the drug dealers had actually acquired the rifles from some corrupt army guys.
policing the favelas is a practical nightmare. roads are narrow or completely non-existant. walkways have steep inclines, buildings placed chaotically. its a snipers paradise and a perfect setting for an ambush. then you got the people who live there who are completely terrorized by the drug cartels, sometimes to the point where they are afraid to do anything to help the police, or worse forced to help the cartels. its not a good situation.
Ever played Modern Warfare 2? There's a level set in a favela which is pretty good at giving an idea on how much of nightmare fighting there is.
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Yeah, that level was when I realized the sequel wasn't gonna live up to the original. That's how bad the favelas are!
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weed is awesome. of course the worst thing about weed is the people you have to buy it from. still if you legalized weed, there would still be drug cartels pedaling meth, cocaine, heroin and crack, and then youd have the marijuana trade in countries where its still illegal. you still have the sex trade and the black market to deal with.
however, for example, in mexico, the majority of the cartel's revenue is from weed sales in america.
If the US legalized it, that'd definately up the pressure to do so in canada, and then possibly the EU aswell, maybe. and that'd be a major blow to the cartel's revenue when people no longer have to go to sketchy people on the street for it. but that's long term, and not quite on topic.
its *nice* to see they a southern american gov't doing something about this issue, hope they don't give up if it doesn't turn out ideal.
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You're a little retarded, aren't you?
Hey, thats mean.
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southern american gov't doing something about this issue, hope they don't give up if it doesn't turn out ideal.
Seconded.
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You're a little retarded, aren't you?
Hey, thats mean.
You're not very familiar with iamzack are you?
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get back on topic! theres a thread for that kind of bull****
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weed is awesome. of course the worst thing about weed is the people you have to buy it from. still if you legalized weed, there would still be drug cartels pedaling meth, cocaine, heroin and crack, and then youd have the marijuana trade in countries where its still illegal. you still have the sex trade and the black market to deal with.
however, for example, in mexico, the majority of the cartel's revenue is from weed sales in america.
If the US legalized it, that'd definately up the pressure to do so in canada, and then possibly the EU aswell, maybe. and that'd be a major blow to the cartel's revenue when people no longer have to go to sketchy people on the street for it. but that's long term, and not quite on topic.
its *nice* to see they a southern american gov't doing something about this issue, hope they don't give up if it doesn't turn out ideal.
i would love to see marijuana legalized. but if you take away sales from the cartels, they will only move those resources into other markets.
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And now for the results of what the police apprehended and they're impressive to say the least:
- 35 tons of marijuana
- 250 kilos of cocaine
- 208 kilos of material for packing drugs
- 25 kilos of crack
- 1.806 vials of "lança-perfume" (a local drug)
- 135 weapons including rifles, 11 machineguns .30 and one .50
- 350 vehicles in total (320 of these are bikes)
The sites below show the results but they're in portuguese, I couldnt find any international news site covering this, the last link shows pictures of the whole operation including apprehended weapons, etc.
http://ultimosegundo.ig.com.br/brasil/rj/policia+apresenta+armas+e+drogas+apreendidas+no+alemao+e+na+vila+cruzeiro/n1237843668066.html
http://noticias.uol.com.br/cotidiano/2010/12/01/csn-recebe-drogas-apreendidas-em-ocupacao-no-rj-para-incineracao.jhtm
http://noticias.uol.com.br/album/20101127rio_album.jhtm?abrefoto=152
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and that'd be a major blow to the cartel's revenue when people no longer have to go to sketchy people on the street for it.
If you're buying weed from shady people on the street, then i gotta say you probably never done it before, and that you're doing it wrong.
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Brick weed from Mexico and hydroponics or "dank" stuff grown in the US is quite different. Mexican brick weed is dry and compressed and usually sells for less than $200 / oz. Stuff that's grown in the US is usually a tad moist and 3D - the buds of the flower are not compressed. This stuff goes for $400-$450 / oz. The Mexican **** burns your lungs, probably has fertilizer or rat poison sprayed on it, and contains far less than 10% THC. The good stuff smokes smoothly, you know it's not cut, and can contain up to 20% THC - so you can smoke less. It's almost an entirely different market really, I don't think a lot of people understand that for "marketing" purposes, there are two different drugs out there.
I don't want anything from a Mexican drug cartel a) I don't want to support that kind of violence, and b) it's inferior product and has the capability to make me very sick.
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$400/oz? ****, dude, you need to find a new dealer.
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I'm in Tennessee, not Colorado. :p
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when i was in az we usually got the bricked mexican weed, it was cheap, very cheap, and it was everywhere. its not bad, you usually smoke more of it, and can afford to because its cheap. sometimes it has some interesting psychoactive characteristics that sneak up on you. the downside is you feel like crap the next day. this alaskan/canadian stuff is ****ing expensive. couple hits is enough to get you pretty high. of course you could smoke it all night and feel totally fine the next morning. so ive had both ends of the spectrum. i havent smoked much since i decided to become a antisocial psychotic shutin, so my sources are kinda nil right now.
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I always buy weed from people i trust and know; usually this means buying straight from the grower. The only time i don't buy straight from the grower is when i can't. Then i just have one of my friends pick it up from said grower.
Buy the stuff that wasn't born out of violence and border hopping, and assure quality. Buying something from someone you don't know can be a good way to buy something sketchy like some bud with some lead dust to make it heavier and sell it for more money (and toxic).
The cool thing with marijuana is that if you want to switch who you support with your money in exchange for it, is that you can. A lot of people are growing it these days.
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i dont know any growers anymore. being antisocial doesn't seem to help much either. i dont think ive smoked dope since last fall.
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Make some new "special" friends. Might be hard being anti-social though.
Complete success. My post managed to be the most quoted and discussed. Woot. Did I earn a cookie?
Come on, it Obviously was sarcastic. I was joking on the two countries standards\levels of morality: "So much higher than them", "honest living", good vs bad, and social acceptance.
Also the "how every city with a Spanish sounding name and involved in drugs MUST be in Mexico"...
Not a brain fart, all I know about Brazil is its name. Cant mistake a city in Mexico(assuming its there) for Brazil in that case.
EXCUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUSSSSEEEE!!!
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i dont know any growers anymore. being antisocial doesn't seem to help much either. i dont think ive smoked dope since last fall.
Better start cleaning out the basement. :p
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dont have a basement, i live in an apartment. i think i know enough about hydroponics to get a small grow op going. maybe stick it under the stairs or in a closet. i knew a grower who swears that miracle grow and ph adjusters is all you need. few fishtank pumps and some large plastic containers, some agrofoam, and some led arrays, and i think that should cover it. i could dump my foliage in the woods and my liquid waste in the ocean. yep i think i could pull it off.
now if only i knew where to get seeds from.