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Title: So it's back to stealing magazines from the supermarket
Post by: Dilmah G on December 18, 2010, 10:33:35 pm
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/all-internet-porn-will-be-blocked-to-protect-children-under-uk-government-plan/story-fn3dxix6-1225973481287

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THE UK Government is to combat the early sexualization of children by blocking internet pornography unless parents request it, it was revealed today.

The move is intended to ensure that children are not exposed to sex as a routine by-product of the internet. It follows warnings about the hidden damage being done to children by sex sites.

The biggest broadband providers, including BT, Virgin Media and TalkTalk, are being called to a meeting next month by Ed Vaizey, the communications minister, and will be asked to change how pornography gets into homes.

Instead of using parental controls to stop access to pornography - so-called "opting out" - the tap will be turned off at source. Adults will then have to "opt in."

The new initiative is in advance of the imminent convergence of the internet and television on one large screen in the living room.

It follows the success of an operation by most British internet service providers (ISPs) to prevent people inadvertently viewing child porn websites. Ministers want companies to use similar technology to shut out adult pornography from children. Pornography sites will be blocked at source unless people specifically ask to view them.

TalkTalk, which includes Tiscali and the British version of Aol.com, is already introducing a new free service early next year called "bright feed," which allows people to control the internet so that all devices are automatically covered without the need to set up individual controls.

Homeowners can either specify which adult sites they want to receive or put a cinema-style classification on their feed to restrict what is received according to age ranges, such as U, 12 or 18. A survey by Psychologies magazine this summer found that one in three children aged 10 in Britain had viewed pornography on the net.

Mr Vaizey said: "This is a very serious matter. I think it is very important that it's the ISPs that come up with solutions to protect children.

"I'm hoping they will get their acts together so we don't have to legislate, but we are keeping an eye on the situation and we will have a new communications bill in the next couple of years."

Claire Perry, the Tory MP for Devizes and a keen lobbyist for more restrictions, said: "Unless we show leadership, the internet industry is not going to self-regulate. The minister has said he will get the ISPs together and say, 'Either you clean out your stables or we are going to do it for you'."

"There is this very uneasy sense for parents of children that we do not have to tolerate this Wild West approach. We are not coming at this from an anti-porn perspective. We just want to make sure our children aren't stumbling across things we don't want them to see."

Previously the Internet Services Providers' Association (ISPA) has told MPs that such a blanket ban would be expensive and technically difficult to operate.

But Miranda Suit, co-founder of the charity Safermedia, which held a conference on internet porn at the Commons last month, said: "Technically we know it can be done because the ISPs are already removing child porn after the government put pressure on them.

"In the past, internet porn was regarded as a moral issue or a matter of taste. Now it has become a mental health issue because we now know the damage it is causing. We are seeing perverse sexual behavior among children. Legislation is both justifiable and feasible."

She quoted the example of two underage brothers sentenced to at least five years' detention this year for a sadistic sex attack on two other boys in South Yorkshire. The brothers were said to have had a "toxic" home life where they were exposed to pornography.

This weekend some ISPs appeared ready to introduce an "opt in" clause voluntarily. Andrew Heaney, executive director of strategy and regulation for TalkTalk, said: "Our objective was not to do what the politicians want us to do but to do what was right by our customers.

"If other companies aren't going to do it of their own volition, then maybe they should be leant on. Legislation is a sledgehammer but it could work."

A spokeswoman for Virgin Media said: "We already have an opt-in approach on mobiles. We've taken this approach as mobiles are taken out of the home - and kept in a pocket - whereas parents can control what happens within the home and online "We're able to block sites, so it would be possible to do the same on the internet. It is just about finding the right approach."

A spokesman for BT, which has a "clean feed" system to block access to illegal sites, said: "We do what we can to protect children."

The ISPA did not return calls to London's Sunday Times.

Well, this may be interesting.
Title: Re: So it's back to stealing magazines from the supermarket
Post by: Hades on December 18, 2010, 10:36:18 pm
thank god I don't live in the UK :nervous:

you know what I'm talking about amirite DilmahG
Title: Re: So it's back to stealing magazines from the supermarket
Post by: iamzack on December 18, 2010, 10:59:04 pm
No wonder I'm so messed up. It was all that porn I was watching when I was 12!
Title: Re: So it's back to stealing magazines from the supermarket
Post by: Dilmah G on December 18, 2010, 11:01:34 pm
you know what I'm talking about amirite DilmahG
:yes:

Jeez, I never thought a third of 10 year olds would've seen pr0n.
Title: Re: So it's back to stealing magazines from the supermarket
Post by: Rodo on December 18, 2010, 11:13:34 pm
Now I'm wondering where's that hotties thread that was round here sometime ago?  ;7
Title: Re: So it's back to stealing magazines from the supermarket
Post by: Mongoose on December 18, 2010, 11:20:25 pm
Dat's sum nanny state.
Title: Re: So it's back to stealing magazines from the supermarket
Post by: redsniper on December 19, 2010, 12:22:12 am
Suddenly, hundreds of British FS fans can no longer visit HLP. Oh yeah, we're X-rated baby! :pimp::yes:
Title: Re: So it's back to stealing magazines from the supermarket
Post by: achtung on December 19, 2010, 01:59:28 am
So, which internet channels do you guys get? I only get basic internet service with 12 sites.
Title: Re: So it's back to stealing magazines from the supermarket
Post by: Mefustae on December 19, 2010, 03:44:59 am
I'd be rather impressed if they managed to censor each and every porn site on the entire internets. Hell, after that miracle, maybe they should follow up by punching out God.

Hrmph. I'd be infuriated if this wasn't so utterly absurd. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: So it's back to stealing magazines from the supermarket
Post by: castor on December 19, 2010, 07:53:28 am
They should block all the news sites too, some damn disturbing stuff there.
Title: Re: So it's back to stealing magazines from the supermarket
Post by: Mobius on December 19, 2010, 10:07:22 am
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THE UK Government is to combat the early sexualization of children by blocking internet pornography unless parents request it, it was revealed today.

Doesn't solve the problem because kid X can go visit kid Y whose parents authorized pr0n and watch it. This has the potential to create pr0n clubs.
Title: Re: So it's back to stealing magazines from the supermarket
Post by: QuantumDelta on December 19, 2010, 10:43:09 am
Good luck with that.
Prem Porn sites
Streaming sites.
Torrent sites.
Forums.
Chat sites.
Etc, etc, it's freaking long ass list.
I would say I don't really care cuz it doesn't effect me but I think it's pathetic and destructive that parents can't be parents and have to rely on government or corporate controls to do it for them.
Title: Re: So it's back to stealing magazines from the supermarket
Post by: Polpolion on December 19, 2010, 10:59:51 am
Do they just plan on blocking porn sites that are dedicated porn sites? I don't live in the UK, but I haven't gotten porn from an actual site like that in years.
Title: Re: So it's back to stealing magazines from the supermarket
Post by: Flipside on December 19, 2010, 12:18:37 pm
Ive seen no word of this in the UK and, frankly, I don't see them getting away with it if they tried. It's just one of those silly ideas that get thrown out from time to time and then you never hear of I suspect.
Title: Re: So it's back to stealing magazines from the supermarket
Post by: Galemp on December 19, 2010, 12:20:50 pm
So, which internet channels do you guys get? I only get basic internet service with 12 sites.

Yeah, I had Verizon for a while but they didn't carry Amazon, so I switched to Comcast.
Title: Re: So it's back to stealing magazines from the supermarket
Post by: MR_T3D on December 19, 2010, 12:34:24 pm
Somehow I think google/bing/search engine of choice images will still give kids more than enough p0rns.
And that's what they use initially anyway, as far as I recall....
Parents should just put the computers in living rooms and take a mild interest in what the kids are doing, nothing obtrusive, but also not giving them total free reign.
Title: Re: So it's back to stealing magazines from the supermarket
Post by: Herra Tohtori on December 19, 2010, 12:57:24 pm
Impossible to implement, impossible to control, impossible for the parents to rely upon. Except that since people are lazy, they'll do exactly that: Instead of doing their work as parents by monitoring their childrens' internet usage, they'll rely on the censorship system to filter the unsavoury influences out of their children's internets.


Truly, the lack of technological savvyness and common sense in people who produce these brain farts astonishes me.
Title: Re: So it's back to stealing magazines from the supermarket
Post by: Titan on December 19, 2010, 07:46:18 pm
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Title: Re: So it's back to stealing magazines from the supermarket
Post by: General Battuta on December 19, 2010, 07:49:20 pm
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wait i thought you lived in canada
Title: Re: So it's back to stealing magazines from the supermarket
Post by: Titan on December 19, 2010, 07:50:38 pm
... no?

I *want* to be one.
Title: Re: So it's back to stealing magazines from the supermarket
Post by: S-99 on December 20, 2010, 07:06:42 am
Now I'm wondering where's that hotties thread that was round here sometime ago?  ;7
Right here. (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=62662.0)