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Title: Upgrades for the original Freespace?
Post by: Ghensler on December 20, 2010, 01:07:24 pm
Hey, sorry if this is covered somewhere, but I had trouble running a search for it.

I've been reading about all the Freespace 2 upgrades and projects on different gaming sites, but I have an old retail copy of the first Freespace game.  I'd like to replay that and get back into the universe before I grab Freespace 2 off of GoG - are there any graphical upgrades for Freespace 1 like there are for Freespace 2?
Title: Re: Upgrades for the original Freespace?
Post by: ktistai228 on December 20, 2010, 01:08:59 pm
unfortunately no. There is a Port of FS1 to FS2, but as anything else goes, I'm sorry.
Title: Re: Upgrades for the original Freespace?
Post by: General Battuta on December 20, 2010, 01:14:29 pm
There are in a roundabout way - install FreeSpace Port for FreeSpace 2, then install the FSPort MediaVPs (as well as the regular MediaVPs), and enjoy.

We do not have access to the FS1 source code so that game has never been developed on its own.
Title: Re: Upgrades for the original Freespace?
Post by: Galemp on December 20, 2010, 01:20:56 pm
Thanks for playing!

The FreeSpace Port requires the FS2 Engine and visual enhancements (MediaVPs), as well as its own mod and its own supplemental visual enhancements (FSPort MVPs). I would recommend purchasing FS2 and going through the install process of FS2 Open and playing FSPort for the most in graphical goodness.

:pimp: And play Silent Threat: Reborn between FS1 and FS2. :pimp:
Title: Re: Upgrades for the original Freespace?
Post by: Ypoknons on December 21, 2010, 05:51:45 am
That, and Freespace 2 and all the associated projects are well worth playing. :)
Title: Re: Upgrades for the original Freespace?
Post by: Satellight on December 21, 2010, 06:17:06 am
In fact, I replayed the vanilla FS1 yesterday and...hum... I was shocked.  :shaking:
On a LCD screen with 1600 * 1200 resolution, it's HORRIBLE. Perhaps fun, but very ugly. Don't forget the resolution was fixed at 640 * 480.

FSPort © : The best Way to Play.

No commercial ad inside
Title: Re: Upgrades for the original Freespace?
Post by: dANGER boy on December 23, 2010, 02:02:01 am
In fact, I replayed the vanilla FS1 yesterday and...hum... I was shocked.  :shaking:
On a LCD screen with 1600 * 1200 resolution, it's HORRIBLE. Perhaps fun, but very ugly. Don't forget the resolution was fixed at 640 * 480.

FSPort © : The best Way to Play.

No commercial ad inside
:eek: Ugly? UGLY?!?!?  I would say its "classic" or perhaps "seasoned", but not ugly. :)

To be honest, I prefer vanilla FS1 to FSPort.  Call me a purist but I like the increased difficulty of inaccurate missiles.
Title: Re: Upgrades for the original Freespace?
Post by: Mars on December 23, 2010, 02:24:54 am
In fact, I replayed the vanilla FS1 yesterday and...hum... I was shocked.  :shaking:
On a LCD screen with 1600 * 1200 resolution, it's HORRIBLE. Perhaps fun, but very ugly. Don't forget the resolution was fixed at 640 * 480.

FSPort © : The best Way to Play.

No commercial ad inside
:eek: Ugly? UGLY?!?!?  I would say its "classic" or perhaps "seasoned", but not ugly. :)

To be honest, I prefer vanilla FS1 to FSPort.  Call me a purist but I like the increased difficulty of inaccurate missiles.

I find Hornets to be far more accurate in Vanilla FS1
Title: Re: Upgrades for the original Freespace?
Post by: Satellight on December 23, 2010, 07:31:18 am
 :shaking: Don't be angry guys, I don't have said vanilla FS1 is not good to play ! But I think about the "new-next-gen" generation.
FSPort, even not perfect, is IMO a good way for someone who's discovering FS1 to play in good condition. I'm pretty sure all has been done to keep the experience as close as the original. And don't forget that in the credit mission of FSPort they talk about the possibilty to buy the vanilla FS1 on GoG.com.
And if I want to replay vanilla FS1 with the original feeling, then I re-plug my CRT  :D
Title: Re: Upgrades for the original Freespace?
Post by: Unknown Target on December 23, 2010, 08:11:59 am
I enjoyed the weird 3D nebulae background that they used in the original FS. Dunno why bit it was kind of cool looking. I also liked the "ka-click" sound whenever your weapons hit a target a lot more than the sound in FS2.
Title: Re: Upgrades for the original Freespace?
Post by: Galemp on December 23, 2010, 09:50:37 am
I also liked the "ka-click" sound whenever your weapons hit a target a lot more than the sound in FS2.

What's this? To my knowledge we had ported over all the FS1 sound effects.
Title: Re: Upgrades for the original Freespace?
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on December 23, 2010, 10:21:33 am
I enjoyed the weird 3D nebulae background that they used in the original FS.

Those are bitmaps, right?
Title: Re: Upgrades for the original Freespace?
Post by: General Battuta on December 23, 2010, 10:22:18 am
I enjoyed the weird 3D nebulae background that they used in the original FS.

Those are bitmaps, right?

don't think so
Title: Re: Upgrades for the original Freespace?
Post by: Hades on December 23, 2010, 02:06:43 pm
no, they aren't, they're some type of generated thing IIRC


and I think I prefer them to FS2's nebula background, which look kinda ugly and really cartoony (as do lightspeed's)
Title: Re: Upgrades for the original Freespace?
Post by: T-LoW on December 23, 2010, 04:54:52 pm
They are just vectors. They look simple and fill the whole scenery - they are easy to use. But for gods sake they aren't superior to nebula images (even if some look cartoonish).

Oh and for upgrading FS:

You can increase the native texture resolution by changing something somewhere... I guess karajorma's facts (to be found in his signature) contain this info :)
Title: Re: Upgrades for the original Freespace?
Post by: Satellight on December 23, 2010, 05:11:23 pm
They are just vectors. They look simple and fill the whole scenery - they are easy to use. But for gods sake they aren't superior to nebula images (even if some look cartoonish).

Oh and for upgrading FS:

You can increase the native texture resolution by changing something somewhere... I guess karajorma's facts (to be found in his signature) contain this info :)

Quote from: The FreeSpace Oracle
I want to play FreeSpace in another resolution but it only lets me play in 640x480. What can I do?

If you're trying to play FS1 in a different resolution you're bang out of luck. It's 640x480 or nothing. Ironically the only way to play FS1 in another resolution is to play the FS1 port on FS2, They're no way to get the original game to do it.

In fact, according to the FreeSpace Oracle, some hacks exist in order to improve the textures (from 256 X 256 pixels maps to 512 x 512), but there is no way to change resolution  :( I had almost a sudden heart attack when i read your post  :eek: