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Modding, Mission Design, and Coding => The Modding Workshop => Topic started by: aldo_14 on June 01, 2001, 06:18:00 am
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Wierd thing happened to me converting a cob... see here (//"http://uk.geocities.com/gunnery_control/bug.html")
The rear engine vanished!! Used to work fine without the turrets (base model) - but no more (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/confused.gif) . And the turreted version crashes FS2 / Fred2 whenever I try to load it (the model, without adding gunpoints, etc to the pof, so it's just a set of sub-objects).
This has become a major problem now, actually, seeing as I have no idea what's wrong.
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Strange, I managed to successfully convert my first cob today (whayeeee) but ingame the suns seems to shine through parts of the hull. Oh yeah and it jumped out sideways (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
More work needed I think (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
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I think it might be the UV mapping, but I'm not sure. What really worries me is that every model i do which has >1 turret sub-objects crashes fred2 - don't know why (although they aren't defined as turrets yet (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/confused.gif) ). Polycount seems to be doubling quite a lot, too. It's quite irritating,as now I just want to get the damn thing finished. At least the texture warpings' cleared up.
http://uk.geocities.com/gunnery_control/wyvern.htm ("http://uk.geocities.com/gunnery_control/wyvern.html")
NB: Does your model move sideways, or just jump that way. Cos it could be you just need to rotate it 90 degrees (TS's co-ordinate system is wierd - y is forward/back and z is up.down ?!)
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Looks OK in Pofeditor (modelview), when you turn it to the front it actualy does give the front view so I'd say it's OK as far as orientation goes. The blue bounding box is too far forward though, don't know what that's about. I might try using wincob2pof instead of pof compiler.
I managed to get a textured (albeit one single tex) model into FS without having to go anywhere near Truespace (falsespace?), I'm all proud of myself. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
BTW is there a specific tutorial that outlines heirarchy for subobjects/turrets etc.?
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Originally posted by Maeglamor:
BTW is there a specific tutorial that outlines heirarchy for subobjects/turrets etc.?
Maybe it's something to do with you axes or something, I don't really usderstand it myself.
There's not a tutorial as such, although there is stuff on the VBB (and here I think), you just hgave to search for it. Damn - I'll need to check my warpout for my old pof (i.e. the one that works). NB- Are you using a cob file with anything glued onto it? cos I think that could be my problem (I have glued destroyed turret objects to it).
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No it's just a simple hull, I was just testing it. My model went through more stages than most i.e. I built it in Rhino3d, I exported it to 3dsmax where I optimised and textured it. Then I used 3dexploration to convert it to cob and finally I used Kazans pofcompiler to make the actual pof file.
You got ICQ Aldo? I just noticed you're in my part of the world (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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well my tutorial i added a bit down the bottom that should keep the hierarchy right i think in princaple but no promices since i wasn't using ts1 but it works in ts4 - however if not work then fear not =) for a small fee i will fix (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif) j/k
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Well I wasn't using TS1 either so I'm exempt from your small fee (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
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Originally posted by Maeglamor:
No it's just a simple hull, I was just testing it. My model went through more stages than most i.e. I built it in Rhino3d, I exported it to 3dsmax where I optimised and textured it. Then I used 3dexploration to convert it to cob and finally I used Kazans pofcompiler to make the actual pof file.
You got ICQ Aldo? I just noticed you're in my part of the world (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Yeah, just downloaded it half an hour ago, so I have no idea what the hell I'm doing (and as soon as I started it running I got a spam e-mail - lovely)
My no's 119819902 (nickname aldo)
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Hmm, now I know why models been crashing - kinda. It's whenever I add over a certain number of turrets (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/frown.gif) - not sure which exactly, but greater than 2.
And when I put 4+ turrets, it all goes nuts!! The turrets hang in mid-air, the hull vanishes into 2 thin 'slices', and a wierd block hovers above my ship (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/confused.gif)
Bugger.
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Hey aldo, keep up the good work! I went and checked out your new site ("http://uk.geocities.com/gunnery_control/") and I must say it is very impressive! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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Originally posted by Setekh:
Hey aldo, keep up the good work! I went and checked out your new site ("http://uk.geocities.com/gunnery_control/") and I must say it is very impressive! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Cheers, although my old site ("http://www.fc-mabozaritchie.com") was much better till I got locked out (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/frown.gif)
Got the first turret working (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif) ("http://uk.geocities.com/gunnery_control/wyvern.htm")
Sadly, adding extra turrets just crashes it and FRED2 (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/frown.gif) . I have absolutely no idea (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/confused.gif) what the hell is going on, except that it's a model problem....
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