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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: headdie on January 20, 2011, 06:36:38 am
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Randomly browsing the web and wikipedia I came across this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jedi_census_phenomenon) I had heard of this before but I didn't realise how wide spread it was, this in perticular made me lol
England and Wales
In England and Wales 390,127 people (almost 0.8%) stated their religion as Jedi on their 2001 Census forms, surpassing Sikhism, Judaism, and Buddhism, and making it the fourth largest reported religion in the countries.[8] In the 2001 Census 2.6% of the population of Brighton claimed to be Jedi...
...Jedi was assigned its own code in the United Kingdom for census processing, the number 896.[13] Officials from the Office for National Statistics pointed out that this merely means that it has been registered as a common answer to the "religion" question...
...In June 2005, Jamie Reed, newly-elected Labour Member of Parliament for Copeland in Cumbria, declared himself to be the first Jedi Member of Parliament...
...On November 16, 2006, two Jedi delivered a protest letter to UN officials in recognition of the International Day for Tolerance. They requested that it be renamed the "UN Interstellar Day of Tolerance" and cited the 2001 Census showing 390,000 Jedi in England and Wales.
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I would like to say that that is, in fact, awesome beyond words.
In before religion bash.
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I think we do it partly because of a dislike of the Government sticking their nose into our business, and partly because there's an inbuilt hatred of bureaucracy in the UK. I think many people are getting more and more tired of concessions and arguments over religious faith, this is a polite way of holding a mirror up to it.
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It's almost as if the British and Welsh population is trolling all the others :3
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We troll ourselves as well ;)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/north_west/7360871.stm
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Wow.....
Even I, who have never seen Star Wars, am amazed.
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Only it would be so much awesomer if someone went back in time and made sure the Phantom Menace never existed!
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Wow.....
Even I, who have never seen Star Wars, am amazed.
lucky
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Wow.....
Even I, who have never seen Star Wars, am amazed.
Seriously? This automatically invalidates pretty much everything you might ever say, ever, you know. :p You might have a PhD in political science, or evolutionary biology or physics or geniusness, or whatever, and bust out some insightful **** on some debate thread down the line some day, the kind of **** which, for anybody else, would get them elected president for life of planet earth, or the nobel prize or whatever but all anyone'll be able to think will be 'Well, be that ar it may, but this guy has never even seen Star Wars, so what could he know?'. And them we'll just dismiss you out of hand.
So yeah. See Star Wars. Or you'll never who that nobel prize. ;)
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but this guy has never even seen Star Wars, so what could he
girl
she
not that this matters, just for future reference
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star wars is ****
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but this guy has never even seen Star Wars, so what could he
girl
she
not that this matters, just for future reference
Internet, you just use "he" as a catch all term because we have no gender neutral terms to indicate the person you are talking which are not offensive (Calling someone an 'it' for an example), and you know nothing about the person's gender, unless it is shared with you.
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star wars is ****
And here I was hoping you would tie your roommate to a chair and make her watch the movies. The original three movies that is, not the prequel trilogy.
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star wars is ****
And here I was hoping you would tie your roommate to a chair and make her watch the movies. The original three movies that is, not the prequel trilogy.
I've had several friends threaten to kidnap me and make me watch all 6. None of them have followed through.
but this guy has never even seen Star Wars, so what could he
girl
she
not that this matters, just for future reference
:P Fanks
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star wars is ****
And here I was hoping you would tie your roommate to a chair and make her watch the movies. The original three movies that is, not the prequel trilogy.
I've had several friends threaten to kidnap me and make me watch all 6. None of them have followed through.
but this guy has never even seen Star Wars, so what could he
girl
she
not that this matters, just for future reference
:P Fanks
Friends don't let friends watch the prequels.
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Movie posturing aside, I just want to know if those people who listed "Jedi" as their religion can actually use the Force, and if the bastards have been holding out on the rest of us. This is essential information, guys!
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Movie posturing aside, I just want to know if those people who listed "Jedi" as their religion can actually use the Force
YES, if not it's a deal breaker.... that's why I joined :p
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I follow the teachings of the P.C Gaming Gods
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star wars is ****
And here I was hoping you would tie your roommate to a chair and make her watch the movies. The original three movies that is, not the prequel trilogy.
hell no
they are all ****
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from now on on the census i am going to claim Hammer of Light.
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from now on on the census i am going to claim Hammer of Light.
And be added to the FBI watchlist when a Google search returns information about a militant group XD
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star wars is ****
And here I was hoping you would tie your roommate to a chair and make her watch the movies. The original three movies that is, not the prequel trilogy.
hell no
they are all ****
Elaborate, please.
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from now on on the census i am going to claim Hammer of Light.
And be added to the FBI watchlist when a Google search returns information about a militant group XD
The US Military trained me to blow **** up underwater, I am automatically on the watch list. You gotta love it. "Let's train em to do a job, then make sure that they don't."
On the other hand, having the HOL listed as a militant group on google would be worth a great many laughs to us. ;7
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We must Hammer ourselves into the Light of our salvation. Fate is our crucible. Death is the fire of our virtue.
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Let us all join in the ceremonial budupbudupbup chant.
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Just watch the old 3 star wars movies... the prequels truly are ****.
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Movie posturing aside, I just want to know if those people who listed "Jedi" as their religion can actually use the Force, and if the bastards have been holding out on the rest of us. This is essential information, guys!
Didn't you hear? "The force" is just some kind of bacteria so they prolly all have some disease :coughs:
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Movie posturing aside, I just want to know if those people who listed "Jedi" as their religion can actually use the Force, and if the bastards have been holding out on the rest of us. This is essential information, guys!
Didn't you hear? "The force" is just some kind of bacteria so they prolly all have some disease :coughs:
LALALALALA NOT LISTENING THAT NEVER HAPPENED
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Didn't you hear? "The force" is just some kind of bacteria so they prolly all have some disease :coughs:
This is a damnable lie.
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...And IG-88 was controlling the Death Star at the end of Return of the Jedi.
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Lots of extended universe stuff is crap, too. I should know, I have 50+ EU novels.
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...And IG-88 was controlling the Death Star at the end of Return of the Jedi.
I'm actually not upset by that. I know a lot of people flip out, but I've never really figured out why.
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Whatever pathetic horrors have been visited on the world by Lucas and the Star Wars fan base since 1977, I still think the original movie is well worth seeing, even if it's just for cultural literacy and the film's historical value. It's also tremendously fun if you are lucky enough to see it in a theater with a good audience--maybe not quite as much of a ride as something like Raiders of the Lost Ark, but the sheer imagination and wonderful score more than make up for it. It's just so damn heroic.
We troll ourselves as well ;)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/north_west/7360871.stm
This is awesome :lol:
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when Hughes failed to arrive on time, District Judge Andrew Shaw issued an arrest warrant, adding: "I hope the force will soon be with him."
:lol:
You've got to love that even court officials join in on it. :p
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star wars is ****
And here I was hoping you would tie your roommate to a chair and make her watch the movies. The original three movies that is, not the prequel trilogy.
hell no
they are all ****
Elaborate, please.
Boring? I liked the books more (the few I've read).
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star wars is ****
And here I was hoping you would tie your roommate to a chair and make her watch the movies. The original three movies that is, not the prequel trilogy.
hell no
they are all ****
Elaborate, please.
laser swords are stupid
laser guns also stupid
plastic armor is stupid
oh yeah and they're all horribly boring
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your faise is stupid :mad:
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hell no
they are all ****
Elaborate, please.
laser swords are stupid
laser guns also stupid
plastic armor is stupid
oh yeah and they're all horribly boring
That was nearing some semblance of actual criticism.
Ignoring the scratched out items, elaborate. What was it that was boring about them? What flaws did the films have that made them "all ****"?
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the characters were uninteresting, the story was uninteresting, and the whole thing is made worse by the following
it's basically the nerd twilight
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the characters were uninteresting, the story was uninteresting, and the whole thing is made worse by the following
it's basically the nerd twilight
I actually sort of agree
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It's like all things though, some people like Lord of the Rings, others think it's pointless drivel, some people like 'Real Life' or 'Political' Dramas or Soap Operas, whereas I think they are some of the most boring crap on TV, it's all down to personal taste. I've never been a big fan of James Bond, for example, in any of its incarnations, I didn't enjoy Vanilla Sky, but I did enjoy Sixth Sense. I don't think there's any steadfast way of identifying what people are or are not going to like.
Edit: Another good example would be 2001: A Space Odyssey, that's a film that has divided movie-goers opinions for as long as I've been alive.
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I worship at the altar of Gaming Goodness
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I wonder how the census office here in Britland would respond to "Loosely Abrahmic Deist"
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star wars is ****
And here I was hoping you would tie your roommate to a chair and make her watch the movies. The original three movies that is, not the prequel trilogy.
hell no
they are all ****
Elaborate, please.
Boring? I liked the books more (the few I've read).
Don't read all of them... :nervous:
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I liked the Timothy Zahn ones, I still feel that he made Admiral Ackbar ten times better by putting him up against Admiral Thrawn, who is still my favourite SW character of all time, no force, no lightsabre and one of the best imagined characters for it.
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the characters were uninteresting, the story was uninteresting, and the whole thing is made worse by the following
it's basically the nerd twilight
Ah, okay.
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I liked the Timothy Zahn ones, I still feel that he made Admiral Ackbar ten times better by putting him up against Admiral Thrawn, who is still my favourite SW character of all time, no force, no lightsabre and one of the best imagined characters for it.
Zahn and Stackpole (early works) are two of the best in the expanded universe.
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Stackpole is unfortunately kind of predictable, and Zahn, while a dear man and incredibly fun to spend time with (seriously, I love him), has been largely downhill from his first three in terms of Star Wars contribution. They're decent reads if you're a young'n.
Matt Stover is the closest to something meaty and interesting in the Star Wars ouevre.
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I really liked the books he wrote, he introduced concepts you don't normally see in Star Wars novels..
I don't like the New Jedi Order series, but I enjoyed reading Traitor on it's own. :yes:
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/me pukes all over the thread
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/me pukes all over the thread
Is it really that bad...?
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No. Though you're a bit past the golden age to start on them, the first two Star Wars films are genuinely entertaining and deserve their reputation. They're not deep or complex or dramatic, but they are genre-defining.
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Yes, the genre of bland characters, cheap plots, and titles ending with "...in SPACE!"
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It should be pointed out that one of the reasons why Star Wars might seem clichéd is because a lot of modern cinema copied it.
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Yes, the genre of bland characters, cheap plots, and titles ending with "...in SPACE!"
I resent this comment. Muppets in Space might not have been the best one, but it's got a serious command performance from Pepe.
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Yes, the genre of bland characters, cheap plots, and titles ending with "...in SPACE!"
So basically you're going to blame the father for the son. Gotcha.
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/me pukes all over the thread
This seems to be a favourite activity of yours in any thread.
We get it, you don't like it. This is not the thread you are looking for. Move Along.
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Yes, the genre of bland characters, cheap plots, and titles ending with "...in SPACE!"
I'd feel bad for saying this, but your arguments are no better: You are stupid. Ergo, you are wrong.
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Well, she's entitled to her opinion, I will say that, and some people may agree with certain aspects, myself included, I can understand why not everyone would enjoy it, but this is a fact that has already been established and Zack has given her reasons why, she's said her piece, and further pissing on the thread is exactly what it appears to be.
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Well, she's entitled to her opinion, I will say that, and some people may agree with certain aspects, myself included, I can understand why not everyone would enjoy it, but this is a fact that has already been established and Zack has given her reasons why, she's said her piece, and further pissing on the thread is exactly what it appears to be.
I agree. In fact, I have as much of a reason for saying that she's wrong as she gave for Star Wars being terrible. In fact, just as much as she's shown that Star Wars is a terrible movie, I've discredited everything she's ever said! Srsly, her arguments are so woefully underdeveloped that they hardly constitute arguments. It boggles my mind my you would post something with such little substance and expect to be taken serio-
oh
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Well, she's entitled to her opinion, I will say that, and some people may agree with certain aspects, myself included, I can understand why not everyone would enjoy it, but this is a fact that has already been established and Zack has given her reasons why, she's said her piece, and further pissing on the thread is exactly what it appears to be.
Whoa, comma overload, man :P
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Well, she's entitled to her opinion, I will say that, and some people may agree with certain aspects, myself included, I can understand why not everyone would enjoy it, but this is a fact that has already been established and Zack has given her reasons why, she's said her piece, and further pissing on the thread is exactly what it appears to be.
My opinions are right, so there.
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Understanding is a three edged sword. No one person is correct about anything.
Personally, after re-watching it without the pure nostalgia pumping through my blood, I found that Return of The Jedi was gorram bantha dren. I'll still watch it if it's on, and I'll probably get a kick out of it. But I'll never consider it on par with A New Hope.
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Well, she's entitled to her opinion, I will say that, and some people may agree with certain aspects, myself included, I can understand why not everyone would enjoy it, but this is a fact that has already been established and Zack has given her reasons why, she's said her piece, and further pissing on the thread is exactly what it appears to be.
Whoa, comma overload, man :P
:lol: Yeah, I do tend to overdo it with commas. I suppose I shouldn't use a comma as a 'mental breath'.
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And maybe throw in a period every once in a while. Kinda got a run-on sentence going on there ;)
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Eh. I think Star Wars was a decent story. I think the prequels sucked. Hard. So now that my cards have been thrown on the table so hard they could bounce off and cut you, I certainly think the old three are worth watching.
But if Alpha 1 were there. Well. The Empire woulda lost on day one.
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What'd you expect from a forum full of nerds...
We have to defend Star Wars or we'll lose... uh... our dignity or some BS like that. :rolleyes:
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We have to defend Star Wars or we'll lose... uh... our dignity or some BS like that. :rolleyes:
You, sir, are a cad, and as completely unable to articulate a reason why the series is bad as zack is. :P
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Oh, I admit it has it's faults... in fact after Episode V Star Wars pretty much started going downhill. I don't even think it's best Sci-fi out there either, but it is one of the first of its kind (I think :nervous: ), so you gotta give it some credit.
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Star Wars isn't actually Sci-Fi, it's Sci-Fant. Which doesn't actually change anything.
Just Saiyajin'
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Ponder this: Ewok is a household name, which was never spoken (and never shown) in RoTJ.
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Star Wars isn't actually Sci-Fi, it's Sci-Fant. Which doesn't actually change anything.
Just Saiyajin'
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Ponder this: Ewok is a household name, which was never spoken (and never shown) in RoTJ.
It's sci-suck!
booyah!
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agreed. Thrawn is one of the most intersting characters in the EU.
Jacen was also intersting when he let go of anger while still be sith.
Karen travis did a lot of interesting work as well. exploring the mandalorians, clones troopers, some jedi and the fetts. it was nice to see that side of it. shame that her last books didnt get to be published because Lucas turned the mandalorians into pacifists. IMAGINE If CANDEROUS ORDO WAS A PACIFIST?! :shaking: srry. irritation. :hopping:
i will probably incur hate for this, but i actually liked the prequels. granted they were what i grew up with as they came out but
P.s. gah my spellin sucks
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Considering its England i'm surprised they didn't show more national pride and put down the "Supreme Dalek"
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Considering its England i'm surprised they didn't show more national pride and put down the "Supreme Dalek"
Dude, don't joke, Daleks are freaking real.
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Considering its England i'm surprised they didn't show more national pride and put down the "Supreme Dalek"
If you had said the doctor i would have been yer ok, but the darleks???? ??????? ??????? we kind of dont like things that have tried to wipe us out and the darleks have a pretty proven track record in that regard
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agreed. Thrawn is one of the most intersting characters in the EU.
Jacen was also intersting when he let go of anger while still be sith.
Karen travis did a lot of interesting work as well. exploring the mandalorians, clones troopers, some jedi and the fetts. it was nice to see that side of it. shame that her last books didnt get to be published because Lucas turned the mandalorians into pacifists. IMAGINE If CANDEROUS ORDO WAS A PACIFIST?! :shaking: srry. irritation. :hopping:
You've chosen an excellent and fitting username, sir.
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You've chosen an excellent and fitting username, sir.
Why thank you sir. Can think of a few better ones now, but it works rather well.
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I like the Mandalorians from the KotOR games much better...
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Awesome either way though.
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I like the Mandalorians from the KotOR games much better...
Mandalorians, much like the almighty shoggoth, suffer from severe badass-decay upon viewing. I prefer to hear about them, than to see and slaughter them by the dozens.
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Yes, the genre of bland characters, cheap plots, and titles ending with "...in SPACE!"
Hmm.
Mass Effect meaning anything to you?
Battlestar Galactica?
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Dude, don't joke, Daleks are freaking real.
The first Dalek combat deployments in Afghanistan had not completed testing.
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I like the Mandalorians from the KotOR games much better...
Mandalorians, much like the almighty shoggoth, suffer from severe badass-decay upon viewing. I prefer to hear about them, than to see and slaughter them by the dozens.
It's just that though... I think I heard a little too much about them in EU.
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Yes, the genre of bland characters, cheap plots, and titles ending with "...in SPACE!"
Hmm.
Mass Effect meaning anything to you?
Battlestar Galactica?
Star Wars and Battlestar Galactica are about as similar to each other as they are to Apollo 13.
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To be honest, I'm getting tired of these 'near now' type Sci-Fi's that seem to wallow more and more in depression and pain and suffering than in raising humanity up to what it might possibly be one day. Each to their own I guess.
It should also be noted that even the producers stated that in places BSG was the Iliad... IN SPACE! :p Though in balance, I wouldn't describe the Iliad as containing cheap plots or shallow characters, just really old and well-used ones by todays standards, something it probably has in common with Star Wars.
It'd be interesting to find out how many Forum members were even alive when Star Wars came out, come to think of it. I was 5 at the time.
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Individual science fiction stories may seem as trivial as ever to the blinder critics and philosophers of today - but the core of science fiction, its essence has become crucial to our salvation if we are to be saved at all.
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Individual science fiction stories may seem as trivial as ever to the blinder critics and philosophers of today - but the core of science fiction, its essence has become crucial to our salvation if we are to be saved at all.
Exactly, I loved the Foundation series and the Robot stories, because they weren't just stories about science, they were stories about the human interaction and approach to science. Foundation dealt with a concept that seems to be more and more a concern in modern science, the stagnation of growth because we have considered that there is little left to 'learn' (and that something isn't worth trying because it "just won't work"), and the Robot books dealt with our own reaction to technology as it becomes closer and closer to ourselves.
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Individual science fiction stories may seem as trivial as ever to the blinder critics and philosophers of today - but the core of science fiction, its essence has become crucial to our salvation if we are to be saved at all.
Exactly, I loved the Foundation series and the Robot stories, because they weren't just stories about science, they were stories about the human interaction and approach to science. Foundation dealt with a concept that seems to be more and more a concern in modern science, the stagnation of growth because we have considered that there is little left to 'learn' (and that something isn't worth trying because it "just won't work"), and the Robot books dealt with our own reaction to technology as it becomes closer and closer to ourselves.
Part of the term paper I wrote for a literature class actually talked about those two different kinds of science fiction ( XX in SPAAACE, and scifi like Foundation), I'll have to see if I can find it and post the section...
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Individual science fiction stories may seem as trivial as ever to the blinder critics and philosophers of today - but the core of science fiction, its essence has become crucial to our salvation if we are to be saved at all.
Exactly, I loved the Foundation series and the Robot stories, because they weren't just stories about science, they were stories about the human interaction and approach to science. Foundation dealt with a concept that seems to be more and more a concern in modern science, the stagnation of growth because we have considered that there is little left to 'learn' (and that something isn't worth trying because it "just won't work"), and the Robot books dealt with our own reaction to technology as it becomes closer and closer to ourselves.
Yep, the Foundation series (and the Robot stories) are an absolute gem of science fiction, and some of the greatest books I've read, despite Asimov's sometimes odd prose style.
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Individual science fiction stories may seem as trivial as ever to the blinder critics and philosophers of today - but the core of science fiction, its essence has become crucial to our salvation if we are to be saved at all.
Exactly, I loved the Foundation series and the Robot stories, because they weren't just stories about science, they were stories about the human interaction and approach to science. Foundation dealt with a concept that seems to be more and more a concern in modern science, the stagnation of growth because we have considered that there is little left to 'learn' (and that something isn't worth trying because it "just won't work"), and the Robot books dealt with our own reaction to technology as it becomes closer and closer to ourselves.
Yep, the Foundation series (and the Robot stories) are an absolute gem of science fiction, and some of the greatest books I've read, despite Asimov's sometimes odd prose style.
I lost countless hours of sleep as a teenager reading Foundation 1-4
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I will admit, I loved the first 4, but from Foundations' Edge onwards, when it focussed on Golan Trevise, I personally felt it went downhill a little bit, I liked the 'Spectator' position that Asimov took for the first books, and the moment he got involved with a single character, and a little over-obsessed with the Second Foundation's (and Gaias' and the Olivaws') ability for mental manipulation, it felt like some of the vast panorama that made the books so interesting was lost.
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Star Wars and Battlestar Galactica are about as similar to each other as they are to Apollo 13.
Wha? The entire BSG franchise was greenlit as an explicit cash-in on the popularity of the original SW movie. Whatever you might think of the two properties, BSG would very likely not exist were it not for Star Wars' success.
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The new BSG is a lot different from the old franchise... but you do have a point about Star Wars inspiring a lot of other sci-fi.
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The new BSG is a lot different from the old franchise... but you do have a point about Star Wars inspiring a lot of other sci-fi.
The core is not that different. The crucial differences are mainly the 20 à 30 years of technoligical progression that we made on earth and that the cylons were made by men.
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Hmmm.... One-eyed monster is the offspring of a God. Man blinds one-eyed monster, monster appeals to help from said God, man is punished by spending years of hardship, losing several of his best friends in order to finally sail home. Man's daggit dies when he returns home... ok... maybe that bit didn't work...
Thing is, as I said earlier, even the producers noticed the similarities between Adama and Ulysses, especially when you throw in stuff like Apollo, who helped Ulysses to get home in the original Odyssey, or Hera who started out hating humanity, but ended up defending it in the original Odyssey etc. :)
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It's just that though... I think I heard a little too much about them in EU.
huh im just the opposite. I couldn't get enough of them in the EU. I loved how they were portrayed in the legacy arc. Not just warriors, but something more.
Also I never finished the Foundation series. I read the first two and loved them but never got around to reading more. I'm no literaty knoweldgable but I felt they were good because they were more an expirement in human psychology with a sci-fi setting/undercurrent.
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I think it was how they were portrayed... Instead of the most bad-assed warriors in the Galaxy. They felt more like plain mercenaries or soldiers with more than the average slice of honor.
I could be reading the whole thing wrong though. :drevil:
Edit: Not to say that I don't enjoy reading about them, I just expected them to be developed differently.