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Title: FreeSpace Specific IRC Channel Interest?
Post by: Axem on January 30, 2011, 12:59:22 pm
When Fury started #hard-light, it was small and there were just a few of us. Back then there was good amounts of FreeSpace activity and off topic non-sense. But since then the channel has grown from 10 or so to 40-50 on a good day. Not really big mind you, but when it gets active, there can be easy for your attempts to talk about FreeSpace be drowned out by everyone else talking about how bad their day was, or how drunk they got last night. This can put people off from sticking around too long.

So my question to you is... Would you join a FreeSpace Specific channel?

Vote above! Debate below!

To really show your dedication /join #freespace on irc.esper.net to see if this could get off the ground! (Also there's free Lemonade there!)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Specific IRC Channel Interest?
Post by: MatthTheGeek on January 30, 2011, 01:00:56 pm
Could be a good idea to keep a "serious" channel out there. You got my vote on #2.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Specific IRC Channel Interest?
Post by: Fury on January 30, 2011, 01:17:29 pm
When the admins started #hard-light
I wish it was in plural, but alas it was just the old me. :p

And yes, I support the idea though I'd really want to keep the number of channels low. Right now we have #freespace, #scp-fsu and #scp, it might be worthwhile to consider combining those three into same channel. Freespace related subjects are rare commodity so I don't see why it would have to be kept split in three semi-active channels.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Specific IRC Channel Interest?
Post by: Axem on January 30, 2011, 01:25:35 pm
OP edited to reflect the proper history. :p

I can see your point, but (this is just me) I always felt that #scp was pretty stand alone anyway. It's mainly for coders or for advanced troubleshooting. Would some of the semi-active channels want to merge into #freespace? I don't want to force anything here.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Specific IRC Channel Interest?
Post by: mjn.mixael on January 30, 2011, 01:36:31 pm
I don't really care if people want a specific freespace channel, I probably won't bother to spend much time in there myself though. However, I definately do not support the idea of merging #hard-light, #scp, and #scp-fsu. That is specifically because the FSU team uses #scp-fsu to gather much needed feedback from the team from time to time. Basically, we actually do use it as a project channel quite often.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Specific IRC Channel Interest?
Post by: Shade on January 30, 2011, 03:17:21 pm
Merging #scp into the #freespace channel would seem like a bad idea to me. Code talk is complicated enough without having it broken up with unrelated chatter.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Specific IRC Channel Interest?
Post by: IronBeer on January 30, 2011, 07:42:00 pm
Having a "serious" FS channel, as it were, is probably a good idea. No points for guessing my vote.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Specific IRC Channel Interest?
Post by: CommanderDJ on January 30, 2011, 08:13:48 pm
I'd pop in from time to time. I think it's a good idea as I always feel weird interrupting an off topic conversation with a FRED question or whatnot.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Specific IRC Channel Interest?
Post by: Flipside on January 30, 2011, 08:56:44 pm
Sounds good to me, IRC is always going to contain banter and NSFF stuff, so if people want to seriously discuss FS stuff it can be difficult to fit it in under the general discussions going on in there.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Specific IRC Channel Interest?
Post by: Dilmah G on January 31, 2011, 02:31:16 am
I think this is a good idea, although then we might see the Gendisc/restofHLP divide a lot more strongly with regards to who frequents which channels. :P I don't really chill that much on IRC anymore anyway.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Specific IRC Channel Interest?
Post by: karajorma on January 31, 2011, 04:53:58 am
It's a good idea. I rarely visit #hard-light cause it's too much of a distraction. I might spend more time on a dedicated FS channel.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Specific IRC Channel Interest?
Post by: NGTM-1R on January 31, 2011, 03:40:35 pm
On some level this sounds a bit like Bittervets complaining about the noobs and how things were so much better years ago, so I'm not totally convinced you're going to actually improve anything.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Specific IRC Channel Interest?
Post by: RangerKarl on February 01, 2011, 06:17:09 am
What do you mean by serious FS topics? Are you guys really going to deploy the mod stick if someone starts to segue into a different topic? IRC's a fairly informal channel, and in my opinion should not be treated the same way as a forum. Besides, every time someone wants to start an FS discussion in #hard-light I see no shortage of people willing to take the topic up. This idea seems superfluous to me.

EDIT: sprinkle IMOs on this paragraph, I forgot to season.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Specific IRC Channel Interest?
Post by: Hero_Swe on February 01, 2011, 06:42:37 am
This idea is kinda superflous, but not in the way you think. Since I just recently started the teamspeak channel I have already had a fair bit of success in your eyes of "Cleaning up the non-fs" talk from #hard-light, since the people who usually don't ALWAYS just speak of freespace come into the teamspeak to talk there about non-fs related stuff. I say the TS should be displayed more prominently with that intent of it being a more relaxed place where it's not just always FS talk.

Segregation is definitely not the answer (Having TS open and IRC at the same time is not segregation :P)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Specific IRC Channel Interest?
Post by: -Sara- on February 01, 2011, 06:44:47 am
Do agree it is a good idea, as long as not too many channels form, people tend to like to flock or spread over a few channels only. So would be good if it's anything freespace, including modding etc.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Specific IRC Channel Interest?
Post by: General Battuta on February 01, 2011, 07:53:08 am
The channel's been up for several days and has worked perfectly fine, so concerns seem misplaced.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Specific IRC Channel Interest?
Post by: Getter Robo G on February 01, 2011, 03:04:13 pm
99% of the time i care to talk about FS, particularly the MODDING aspect.

or just listen to you people rant while I mod.

Hint: PUSH TO TALK Iamzack & Hades!!!!

 :p
Title: Re: FreeSpace Specific IRC Channel Interest?
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on February 03, 2011, 01:27:22 am
I thought #scp was where serious talk regarding FreeSpace should go.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Specific IRC Channel Interest?
Post by: peterv on February 03, 2011, 01:34:31 am
I needed an opinion last night, went into #Freespace, and took it in 5'. No way to do that in #hard - light.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Specific IRC Channel Interest?
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on February 03, 2011, 01:39:10 am
While unlikely, using #freespace is probably a better idea because we may be able to answer the queries of more people from beyond HLP, just like how most newbies post support threads in GenFSDisc instead of the proper support board. :p
Title: Re: FreeSpace Specific IRC Channel Interest?
Post by: karajorma on February 03, 2011, 08:04:39 am
I thought #scp was where serious talk regarding FreeSpace should go.

The #scp Channel is often used for very in-depth code discussions. That sort of thing should not be interrupted for general chit-chat about the game.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Specific IRC Channel Interest?
Post by: jr2 on February 03, 2011, 03:55:27 pm
Is there such a thing as a sub-channel?  If so, how about #freespace, having a subchannel of ##scp and ##scp-fsu?  That sounds best to me.  Possible?  If so, is it a good idea?  :nervous:
Title: Re: FreeSpace Specific IRC Channel Interest?
Post by: General Battuta on February 03, 2011, 03:57:01 pm
No, the current setup's working fine (and I don't think you can have subchannels).
Title: Re: FreeSpace Specific IRC Channel Interest?
Post by: JGZinv on February 03, 2011, 10:45:17 pm
I support the idea... many a time I need to get an answer to something which isn't on HLP or the wiki
and go to #hard-light, just to get lost in the noise. So I end up going to #scp hoping there's someone not afk
that knows what I'm going on about.

Treat it like the forums.

SCP for SCP code.
FSU for FSU-y things.
hard-light for general discussion
#freespace for modding / game organizing / etc.