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Title: Sun in nebulae?
Post by: Lucika on January 30, 2011, 05:06:30 pm
I am not sure about this, probably you can answer this for me, but it alway bothered me when we've had a sun in a nebula mission. Isn't that kinda contradictory? Could a sun exist in a vicinity of a nova? Could it "survive" such an event?
Title: Re: Sun in nebulae?
Post by: rscaper1070 on January 30, 2011, 05:11:58 pm
Nebula are where stars are formed so that could explain their presence.
Title: Re: Sun in nebulae?
Post by: Flipside on January 30, 2011, 05:21:54 pm
Besides, if anyone ever gets a Godray shader working in FS2, it'll be something you're glad of the existence of ;)
Title: Re: Sun in nebulae?
Post by: Kolgena on January 30, 2011, 05:26:48 pm
I thought Hery made one (albeit, a buggy one) based off the one used in Crysis.

But yeah, crepuscular rays in the nebula would be so much win.

OT: Not to mention, missions without suns wouldn't have any light except ambient light... and that would look mighty stupid.
Title: Re: Sun in nebulae?
Post by: NGTM-1R on January 30, 2011, 06:09:22 pm
I am not sure about this, probably you can answer this for me, but it alway bothered me when we've had a sun in a nebula mission. Isn't that kinda contradictory? Could a sun exist in a vicinity of a nova? Could it "survive" such an event?

Supernova remnants like the Crab have a white dwarf.
Title: Re: Sun in nebulae?
Post by: Mongoose on January 30, 2011, 07:21:01 pm
I am not sure about this, probably you can answer this for me, but it alway bothered me when we've had a sun in a nebula mission. Isn't that kinda contradictory? Could a sun exist in a vicinity of a nova? Could it "survive" such an event?

Supernova remnants like the Crab have a white dwarf.
Neutron star (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crab_Pulsar), actually.  You're thinking of a planetary nebula, which forms during the final stages of the lifetimes of stars like the Sun and slightly larger.
Title: Re: Sun in nebulae?
Post by: NGTM-1R on January 30, 2011, 07:38:20 pm
Neutron star (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crab_Pulsar), actually.  You're thinking of a planetary nebula, which forms during the final stages of the lifetimes of stars like the Sun and slightly larger.

As an amateur astronomer I will do 50 hours of penitential observing for my sins.
Title: Re: Sun in nebulae?
Post by: -Norbert- on January 31, 2011, 04:10:48 am
Even if it didn't happen in reality, we can blame it on the Shivans. When they blow up a star they utilize subspace, so the situation doesn't have to follow the rules of a natural occuring nova.
Title: Re: Sun in nebulae?
Post by: Marcov on February 04, 2011, 07:21:03 am
It's quite impossible the nebula system in FS is actually the Crab Nebula.

Why hadn't the GTVA identified it as so?

Offtopic comment, sorry.
Title: Re: Sun in nebulae?
Post by: FUBAR-BDHR on February 04, 2011, 02:41:48 pm
Everyone missed the actual answer:  Retail code required a sun in all missions.  This is still true today.  A sun will be added if none is defined.  You can remove it via sexp now though. 
Title: Re: Sun in nebulae?
Post by: mjn.mixael on February 04, 2011, 02:49:14 pm
It's quite impossible the nebula system in FS is actually the Crab Nebula.

Why hadn't the GTVA identified it as so?

Offtopic comment, sorry.

Wut.. that doesn't follow... Just because it wasn't named doesn't mean it's impossible that it could be the Crab Nebula. Granted, I could care a less, but your evidence does not really support your theory.
Title: Re: Sun in nebulae?
Post by: Mongoose on February 04, 2011, 03:25:18 pm
It's quite impossible the nebula system in FS is actually the Crab Nebula.

Why hadn't the GTVA identified it as so?

Offtopic comment, sorry.
...did anyone say it was the Crab Nebula in the first place?
Title: Re: Sun in nebulae?
Post by: NGTM-1R on February 04, 2011, 08:14:15 pm
...did anyone say it was the Crab Nebula in the first place?

There are certain indications about the star that the Crab formed from being under the nominal mass requirement to supernova.

You may now rest in a frightened and fitful sleep at the possibility that someone or something really can nuke stars.
Title: Re: Sun in nebulae?
Post by: Mongoose on February 04, 2011, 09:22:15 pm
...huh.  Well then.

:nervous:
Title: Re: Sun in nebulae?
Post by: BengalTiger on February 05, 2011, 08:38:23 am
...huh.  Well then.

:nervous:
It's totally science (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crab_Nebula#Progenitor_star) dude. The Shivans are real.

Have a good sleep.