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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Flipside on February 04, 2011, 04:09:15 am

Title: Chiiina to the Danger Zone.... ;)
Post by: Flipside on February 04, 2011, 04:09:15 am: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12321492

Chinese TV Channel uses footage from Top Gun in state report on Air Combat Manouvres :lol:
Title: Re: Chiiina to the Danger Zone.... ;)
Post by: karajorma on February 04, 2011, 05:41:50 am: Yeah, I heard about this one a few days ago. :D

Funny thing is that the real footage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XB_de_bQrA) didn't actually need to be sexed up.
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Post by: BlueFlames on February 04, 2011, 12:01:58 pm: Quote from: karajorma on February 04, 2011, 05:41:50 am
Funny thing is that the real footage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XB_de_bQrA) didn't actually need to be sexed up.

Actually, it could have used some editing, given how bleeding obvious it is, when the Chinese aircraft are replaced with an American F-14. Then again, if they're going to steal the footage from an American movie, instead of doctoring their own or splicing together stuff from actual military exercises, I suppose I should expect that kind thing to be missed.
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Post by: Scotty on February 04, 2011, 12:03:55 pm: "the real footage" still has the clips in it. Several times.
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Post by: Nuclear1 on February 04, 2011, 02:45:05 pm: I saw....one. At about 1:10, the fighter exploding. That's the only thing I could find from Top Gun. I must be missing something...? I certainly didn't see any Tomcats in there.
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Post by: Scotty on February 04, 2011, 02:58:59 pm: I might be mistaken, but I thought I saw at least one shot of them flying in formation, and they weren't chinese planes at all.
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Post by: Nuclear1 on February 04, 2011, 03:05:46 pm: At which part?
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Post by: BlueFlames on February 04, 2011, 06:32:36 pm: The missile being fired, right before the plane explodes is part of the same Top Gun clip as the explosion. It's not as easily differentiated in profile as it would have been from above, below, or end-on, but it is a Tomcat doing the firing, not anything that China flies.
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Post by: Nuclear1 on February 04, 2011, 07:27:15 pm: At 1:10? That's definitely not a Tomcat...F-14 doesn't have a black nose.

Besides, they never used that camera angle when they were shooting a missile launch from one of the F-14s in the movie. It was usually shown from below, rear, and off the port side.
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Post by: Dilmah G on February 04, 2011, 08:06:46 pm: Well it's nice to know that the Chinese are doing better than they were in the 80s, with something like 35% of their pilots qualified to fly 'all-weather'. :P
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Post by: NGTM-1R on February 04, 2011, 08:08:14 pm: Quote from: Nuclear1 on February 04, 2011, 07:27:15 pm
F-14 doesn't have a black nose.

The F-14 has a nose whatever color you chose to paint it.
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Post by: StarSlayer on February 04, 2011, 08:19:42 pm: @1:10? Not a Tomcat, there are about a dozen things wrong with it to be a F-14, but the easiest one to point out is that it only has one vertical stabilizer that is the wrong shape for an F-14. It's one of those domestic delta wing canard jobs of their's the J-10.
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Post by: Dilmah G on February 04, 2011, 08:29:46 pm: /me takes a look.

I agree, no way can that be an F-14. Nose and tail give it away immediately as the J-10. I'm surprised more people didn't mistake it for an F-16.
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Post by: BlueFlames on February 04, 2011, 08:51:40 pm: Looking at it again, I'll concede the point. I'd have sworn it had a double-tail, when I watched it this morning, but that's definately not the case. Oops.
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Post by: karajorma on February 04, 2011, 11:04:24 pm: Quote from: Scotty on February 04, 2011, 12:03:55 pm
"the real footage" still has the clips in it. Several times.

I know. That was the entire news report in question.

But there is real footage in there which is pretty cool. No need for Top Gun. :)
Title: Re: Chiiina to the Danger Zone.... ;)
Post by: Dilmah G on February 05, 2011, 02:08:04 am: I agree, the real footage itself is pretty kickass.