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Title: The Libra Gate
Post by: Styxx on May 07, 2002, 09:48:47 am: Work in progress (as always) of a Libra Gate model, for Libra Wars, based on a concept by HeX (I guess)...

(http://terra.sourceforge.net/images/libragate01img01.jpg)
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Post by: Darkage on May 07, 2002, 09:55:05 am: :jaw:

Very cool dude, me likes the glowing panels and electric thingy allot;) :yes: good job
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Post by: Nico on May 07, 2002, 09:56:27 am: oh, one more gate!

Neato, anyway :)
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Post by: Redfang on May 07, 2002, 10:27:00 am: :jaw:

Very impressive! :yes2::nod::yes:
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Post by: an0n on May 07, 2002, 10:45:52 am: Very 80's plastic sci-fi.
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Post by: Boct1584 on May 07, 2002, 10:51:33 am: Check out the Libra Wars themselves at www.warpstorm.com/librawars
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Post by: Martinus on May 07, 2002, 11:11:47 am: Wow that's thee coolest structure I've seen in ages :yes: :yes: :yes:
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Post by: JR2000Z on May 07, 2002, 01:10:13 pm: I would be cool if it turned out to a model.
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Post by: Styxx on May 07, 2002, 01:20:04 pm: Quote
Originally posted by JR2000Z
I would be cool if it turned out to a model.

A Freespace 2 model, you mean? Well, could be cool. If I get the time...
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Post by: CP5670 on May 07, 2002, 01:28:52 pm: Wow, those glow effects are some of the best I have seen; right up there with those of the Volition renders. :nod:
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Post by: Stunaep on May 07, 2002, 01:41:22 pm: This calls for a bright shiny w00t!!! OH YEAH!!!
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Post by: CP5670 on May 07, 2002, 01:53:11 pm: nah, this is a "bright shiny w00t" : :D

[glow=orange]\/\/0؆![/glow]
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Post by: Boct1584 on May 08, 2002, 06:36:56 am: Quote
Originally posted by Styxx

A Freespace 2 model, you mean? Well, could be cool. If I get the time...

Yeah, that'd be cool. Maybe you could replace the Knossos with it; it definitely looks good enough.
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Post by: Razor on May 08, 2002, 06:51:14 am: Well the look, the shape, it isn't really Freespacey to me. Perhaps if it is by another race but no, in my opinion it is not Freespacey enough. Still the model is good.
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Post by: mikhael on May 08, 2002, 08:26:16 am: Quote
Originally posted by Razor
Well the look, the shape, it isn't really Freespacey to me. Perhaps if it is by another race but no, in my opinion it is not Freespacey enough. Still the model is good.

What the hell is 'Freespacey'? Is there a design manual out there that I missed? I've been told the same thing and I don't get it.
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Post by: Styxx on May 08, 2002, 08:33:37 am: Quote
Originally posted by Razor
Well the look, the shape, it isn't really Freespacey to me. Perhaps if it is by another race but no, in my opinion it is not Freespacey enough. Still the model is good.

Well, considering that it wasn't meant to be "freespacey"... :D
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Post by: Ulundel on May 08, 2002, 08:51:03 am: Quote
Originally posted by Styxx

Well, considering that it wasn't meant to be "freespacey"... :D

:lol:

Anyway, this "thing" is totally worth a big nice w00t!
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Post by: Corsair on May 08, 2002, 11:33:50 am: can I pitch in too?
w00t! :yes2::):yes:
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Post by: Nico on May 08, 2002, 11:53:04 am: Quote
Originally posted by mikhael

What the hell is 'Freespacey'? Is there a design manual out there that I missed? I've been told the same thing and I don't get it.

mmh, most likely, I guess it looks too high tech, advanced or whatever. terran tech in FS looks a bit archaic, just like taking a 80's jet or an apache and throwing it in space, you replace the wings with big engines and missile pods, et voila.
bah, it's hard to explain, but there's a feeling shared by all the designs in FS2.
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Post by: mikhael on May 08, 2002, 12:14:08 pm: Quote
Originally posted by venom2506

bah, it's hard to explain, but there's a feeling shared by all the designs in FS2.

I want a Freespace style guide, damnit.
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Post by: Styxx on May 08, 2002, 02:05:19 pm: Quote
Originally posted by mikhael
I want a Freespace style guide, damnit.

Excerpt from Styxx's guide to Freespace style:

Terran ships look like boxes, and are generally grey.
Vasudan ships look like fishes.
Shivan ships have red bits and lots of spikes.

:D
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Post by: delta_7890 on May 08, 2002, 02:12:58 pm: Quote
Originally posted by mikhael

I want a Freespace style guide, damnit.

You already have one, the game itself. :D Just take a look at the models (preferably second generation) and go from there with the designs. They're sleek, but they still have an "old-school" military look to them...like the Harrier or the Tomcat. (In relation to real life aircraft)
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Post by: Sandwich on May 08, 2002, 03:03:18 pm: It's the purple and turquoise - those are colors restricted to nebulas in freespace - that's why it doesn't have a "Freespace" look. :D
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Post by: Styxx on May 08, 2002, 03:11:55 pm: Quote
Originally posted by sandwich
It's the purple and turquoise - those are colors restricted to nebulas in freespace - that's why it doesn't have a "Freespace" look. :D

Ah, yeah - that too... :)
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Post by: Zeronet on May 08, 2002, 03:34:09 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Styxx

Ah, yeah - that too... :)
#

Yep.
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Post by: diamondgeezer on May 08, 2002, 04:06:04 pm: Crikey, but that's impressive
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Post by: mikhael on May 08, 2002, 05:41:07 pm: Quote
Originally posted by delta_7890

You already have one, the game itself. :D Just take a look at the models (preferably second generation) and go from there with the designs. They're sleek, but they still have an "old-school" military look to them...like the Harrier or the Tomcat. (In relation to real life aircraft)

Really? So there's a design similarity between a Perseus and a Medusa and an Orion and a Leviathin?

I think Styxx has the closest thing to a style guide with his boxes, spikes and fishes.
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Post by: Stryke 9 on May 08, 2002, 06:03:01 pm: In FS:

Terran fighters ALWAYS look at least vaguely like fighters (yick)
New Vasudans are Symmetrical, smooth, and have that annoying scaly brown texture that's supposed to make them look cobbled from sandstone or summat.
Old Vasudans look cool as all hell, but generally follow the same guidelines as Terrans.
Terran capships look superficially realistic as ships, gut tend to have engines all along the bottom or something like that. Also, they're big and chunky.
Shivans look like everything that doesn't look Terran. In FS1, that means they look like a less-standard variety of Terran vessel, in FS2 they look like bugs and spiky things.
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Post by: demon442 on May 08, 2002, 09:36:43 pm: Dude, it looks kinda like the B5 Jump-gates...

But still awesome:yes: :yes: :yes:
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Post by: Styxx on May 08, 2002, 10:12:54 pm: Heh, thanks. :)
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Post by: killadonuts on May 09, 2002, 03:05:09 pm: .
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Post by: wEvil on May 10, 2002, 04:55:29 am: That model looks good...but maybe the pink/purple glow it a little overdone.

Other than that...the geometry could use SOMETHING more...i have No idea what though.

Either way - wikkid stuff :)
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Post by: Styxx on May 10, 2002, 07:46:04 am: Quote
Originally posted by wEvil
...the geometry could use SOMETHING more...i have No idea what though.

I have that feeling too... I just can't think of anything to put on it anymore. And what do you suggest about the glow?
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Post by: Nico on May 10, 2002, 09:24:46 am: Quote
Originally posted by Styxx

I have that feeling too... I just can't think of anything to put on it anymore. And what do you suggest about the glow?

the mesh is too "slick" I think. doesn't fit with the map, actually. you need to extrude polys here and there, or change the map to a cleaner one.
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Post by: wEvil on May 10, 2002, 09:30:51 am: Quote
Originally posted by Styxx
Work in progress (as always) of a Libra Gate model, for Libra Wars, based on a concept by HeX (I guess)...

(http://terra.sourceforge.net/images/libragate01img01.jpg)

If i were you, i'd put some kind of lattice in between the quartered panels towards the rear.

Get rid of those toruses towards the camera, and maybe add some extrusions around the outer ring (sensor booms? stuff like that)

The glow...just make it less saturated. The colour balance is fine but its too dominating. Just bring the intensity down to about....2/3 of what it is right now?

Thats all I can think of off the top of my head.
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Post by: killadonuts on May 10, 2002, 10:50:17 am: Quote
Originally posted by mikhael

What the hell is 'Freespacey'? Is there a design manual out there that I missed? I've been told the same thing and I don't get it.

What is the point of complaining about somebody's made-up adjective?(but I do admit it sounded stupid :D )
I completely understood the point when I read that post.
Go complain about the government or the direction your blender spins or something.

BTW making this to fit freespace couldn't be too much of a stretch.
Just redo the Pink colorations and replace them with blue for Terran or maybe red for Shivan.(I like that one.)
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Post by: mikhael on May 10, 2002, 04:43:13 pm: Quote
Originally posted by killadonuts

What is the point of complaining about somebody's made-up adjective?(but I do admit it sounded stupid :D )
I completely understood the point when I read that post.
Go complain about the government or the direction your blender spins or something.
Okay, so like you're the only person who didn't understand the question. I'll make it clearer.

What the hell is 'freespacey' or 'freespaceish' or more bluntly, 'What makes something 'freespace' or 'not freespace' enough?

I've seen people told their work was 'not freespace' or 'not freespacey' so I decided to ask the question as to what exactly makes somethign 'freespacey'.

Does that clarify the question for you? Perhaps smaller words would help? Maybe a little more vitriol and bile? Everyone else understood the question for the second and third sentances:

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Is there a design manual out there that I missed? I've been told the same thing and I don't get it.

Run along. Go complain complain about something useful, or better yet, don't.
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Post by: killadonuts on May 10, 2002, 05:35:54 pm: Quote
Originally posted by mikhael

Okay, so like you're the only person who didn't understand the question. I'll make it clearer.

What the hell is 'freespacey' or 'freespaceish' or more bluntly, 'What makes something 'freespace' or 'not freespace' enough?

I've seen people told their work was 'not freespace' or 'not freespacey' so I decided to ask the question as to what exactly makes somethign 'freespacey'.

Does that clarify the question for you? Perhaps smaller words would help? Maybe a little more vitriol and bile? Everyone else understood the question for the second and third sentances:

Run along. Go complain complain about something useful, or better yet, don't.

WHAT?!?! :mad2: More complaining?! Go play in a dump truck you loser. :p
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Post by: wEvil on May 11, 2002, 04:24:20 am: **TOPIC DERAILED**

Is it just me or has everyone been in a really scatty mood since wednesday?

There have been numerous heated arguments here, and on other forums I frequent, plus at uni there have been about seven massive fights including one where some guy got his head almost knocked off by a bottle. For crying out loud guys, lets get it together here at least!
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Post by: Fineus on May 11, 2002, 04:32:53 am: Seems ok to me - perhaps it's just the time of year or something. At least try and keep the insults to a minimum though guys :)
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Post by: Sandwich on May 14, 2002, 09:17:06 am: Quote
Originally posted by wEvil
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Is it just me or has everyone been in a really scatty mood since wednesday?

There have been numerous heated arguments here, and on other forums I frequent, plus at uni there have been about seven massive fights including one where some guy got his head almost knocked off by a bottle. For crying out loud guys, lets get it together here at least!

Perhaps the enroachment of summer heat to various parts of the world (sorry Styxx :p). :D
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Post by: Styxx on May 14, 2002, 09:40:37 am: Eh? :confused:
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Post by: aldo_14 on May 14, 2002, 09:48:00 am: Quote
Originally posted by wEvil
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Is it just me or has everyone been in a really scatty mood since wednesday?

There have been numerous heated arguments here, and on other forums I frequent, plus at uni there have been about seven massive fights including one where some guy got his head almost knocked off by a bottle. For crying out loud guys, lets get it together here at least!

Exam time

:sigh:
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Post by: Sandwich on May 14, 2002, 05:10:58 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Styxx
Eh? :confused:

You know - summer? The seasons? Those things you guys got backwards down there? ;)

Ok, ok - so it's above 23 celsius there - but not for long! :D
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Post by: Styxx on May 14, 2002, 06:38:05 pm: Quote
Originally posted by sandwich
You know - summer? The seasons? Those things you guys got backwards down there? ;)

Ok, ok - so it's above 23 celsius there - but not for long! :D

It's YOU that have it backwards, dammit!! :D