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Title: look at how smart we are with all these big words and complicated things to say
Post by: General Battuta on February 18, 2011, 04:29:03 pm

Look at how fancy schmancy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aristeia) our mission name is, complete with narrative structure built to match

Redsniper thought it was cool so I decided to share it with the world. See if you can spot the events in the mission that match!

Title: Re: look at how smart we are with all these big words and complicated things to say
Post by: PsychoLandlord on February 18, 2011, 04:32:41 pm

Wow. And here I was thinking Aristeia was a random nonsense title. Or to be precise, simply accepting the title and not looking into it past that.

Should I go rooting for hidden messages and shout outs in all missions later on?

Title: Re: look at how smart we are with all these big words and complicated things to say
Post by: bigchunk1 on February 18, 2011, 04:55:33 pm

I assumed it was a reference since Ken mentions it at the start of the mission:

"This is your Aristeia, fight and you shall triumph."

Didn't look it up until now. (Where the link was literally put in front of me) Let's play puzzle...

1.Arming scene
Mission's briefing

2.Brilliance of armor/hero
Intro cutscene, displays wargods in their valiant charge against opposition

3.Exhortation to followers
Simms rallies the wargods to fight the bloodletters

4.Initial exploit
Arrival of the UEA Anjaneya to jam serker team's beam weaponry

5.Setback (wounding)
GTCv Medea warps in and attacks the Auxerre and the Dea Bricta

6.Divine inspiration
Laporte uses the Tev comms unit to call for support on the Eris

7.Renewed exploits
Fire support arrives and takes out the GTCv Medea

8.Double simile
UED Toutatis arrives

9.The kill
Hood's AWACS support gets killed.

10.Taunting the victim
Admiral Calder taunts the Hood as it retreats to subspace.

Title: Re: look at how smart we are with all these big words and complicated things to say
Post by: Talon 1024 on February 18, 2011, 04:59:05 pm

Let's see if I've got it...

1. Arming scene

Spoiler:

The intro cutscene showing the GTVA blockade forces against the UEF frigates and Agincourt.  UEF pilots getting ready to fight.

2. Brilliance of armor/hero

Spoiler:

This is your Aristeia, Noemi.  Fight, and you will triumph

3. Exhortation to followers

Spoiler:

"We will kill them, and we will hold."

4. Initial exploit

Spoiler:

UEA Anjaneya jumps in and jams the beam targeting systems on the Serkr team corvettes.

5. Setback (wounding)

Spoiler:

GTCv Medea jumps in and does damage to the UEF torpedo strike division, plus they knock out the UEA Guererre

6. Divine Inspiration

Spoiler:

Laporte has a GTVA comm unit in her fighter.  She uses it to call a strike on the Medea

7. Renewed exploits

Spoiler:

If Laporte's strike call was good enough, the Medea gets destroyed

8. Double simile
I don't know...
9. The kill

Spoiler:

Admiral Netreba jumps in with the UED Toutatis and attacks the GTD Hood, and successfully drives it off

10. Taunting the victim

Spoiler:

"Run home, little Tev.  Tell Steele I'm coming for him"

Oops...  Ninja'd by bigchunk1

Title: Re: look at how smart we are with all these big words and complicated things to say
Post by: General Battuta on February 18, 2011, 05:09:25 pm

I have no idea what a double simile is either, so it's all good. (I suspect it's a poetic device common in the Iliad, akin to kenning in Norse stuff, but I'm not sure off the top of my head.)

Title: Re: look at how smart we are with all these big words and complicated things to say
Post by: Shivan Hunter on February 19, 2011, 03:10:33 am

AFAICT a double simile is simply two similes, comparing the same object. For instance, Battuta is like both Isaac Asimov and Cthulhu :P

It doesn't seem like a very common word though

Title: Re: look at how smart we are with all these big words and complicated things to say
Post by: -Sara- on February 19, 2011, 09:19:51 am

I think the Aristeia is something which is often used in science fiction works, which seem to an extent to borrow on a style of Greek storytelling. The posts before me got that right. Another famous Aristeia being that of Star Wars, which I'll try to describe the way I interpet it:

Arming scene
The rebels prepare to attack the imperial battlemoon, or death star, they converse and promise eachother to return and tell stories of their victory.

Brilliance of the hero
Obi-Wan Kenobi speaks briefly to Luke Skywalker at his take-off, stating the force is with him. This is the recognition of Skywalker being a hero, he is the one with the force on his side.

Exhortation of followers
The squadron leader talks his fellow pilots into engaging the battlemoon. He advices them to stay low and avoid heavy fire.

Initial exploit
Rebels pilots and Skywalker use the element of surprise and great skill to disarm surface weapons, destroy enemy fighters, then quickly enter the battlemoon's trench.

Setback
The first of the rebel pilots start get shot down. Equally important, the squadron leader misses his shot at the exhaust port.

Divine inspiration
Skywalker is told by the squadron leader that it is all up to him now. He is now responsible for saving his friends. Shortly after, the squadron leader is killed, this solidifying Skywalkers hero status as remaining combatant. Later, he uses the Force, the divine, to make his shot rather than a targeting computer.

Renewed exploits
The remaining three fighters enter the battlemoon's trench, to initiate an attack on the exhaust port.

Double simile
Although actually placing expectation and event opposite (no-one expects Han Solo to come to help out, instead he goes as far as entering the battle), Solo proves his heart is in the right place and acts selfless by risking his own life to help Skywalker. The double simile comes from that not only Darth Vader is defeated as a result of the friendship and loyalty between Skywalker and Solo, Vader's own underlings bug out lacking his persistance and trust in the force, resulting into his remaining wingman bumping into Vader's ship when the wingman pulls up in panic: the very lack of loyalty which Skywalker's friends DID have.

The kill
Skywalker fires the shot, by divine inspiration, using the force instead of technology.

Taunting the victim
Vader is the only surviving member on the imperial side. He has to suffer the humiliation of his defeat and whatever consequence follows from that. It is an indirect taunt, one by the event occured rather than by the victorer. One can however possibly perceive Solo's enthouciastic brag/comment as a taunt.



Back to WiH.
So for Noemi's Aristeia, the double simile may actually be the difference and thin line between trust or confidence, and overconfidence. The Hood acted overconfident and found itself leaving loopholes (for the AWACS, the attack, no contingency for keeping such an important factor as the Toutatis occupied), while Noemi and her team trusted on skill, clear-headed thinking and failure on the side of the opponent. If confidence is interpeted as trust, then trusting on eachother to cover one another was another factor and each did their component (AWACS, calling in reinforcements, good timing on the Toutatis' side) to achieve victory.