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Title: Army NASCAR Sponsership
Post by: Topgun on February 19, 2011, 06:19:11 pm
http://www.autoblog.com/2011/02/18/report-army-wins-fight-to-keep-spending-money-on-nascar-sponsor


$7 million

$7 million


$7 million!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Army NASCAR Sponsership
Post by: ssmit132 on February 19, 2011, 06:44:13 pm
That seems to be rather a lot of government funding to spend on putting "Army" on a NASCAR.

I will admit it looks pretty cool, though. :P
Title: Re: Army NASCAR Sponsership
Post by: StarSlayer on February 19, 2011, 06:47:15 pm
Probably a rounding error next to the budgets for maintaining USN and USAAF demonstration teams.
Title: Re: Army NASCAR Sponsership
Post by: General Battuta on February 19, 2011, 08:30:04 pm
Apparently if we reduced the F-22 Raptor order by two (2) we could continue to fund NPR and PBS.   :blah:
Title: Re: Army NASCAR Sponsership
Post by: BloodEagle on February 20, 2011, 12:50:16 am
Considering the audience, I think this is smart advertising.  And the price sounds about what you'd expect for something like that.

So I'm not really sure what the problem is.
Title: Re: Army NASCAR Sponsership
Post by: Bobboau on February 20, 2011, 01:09:38 am
I like how it's got a partially camo paint job.
Title: Re: Army NASCAR Sponsership
Post by: NGTM-1R on February 20, 2011, 01:22:20 am
Apparently if we reduced the F-22 Raptor order by two (2) we could continue to fund NPR and PBS.   :blah:

Didn't we already chop at least 36 off?
Title: Re: Army NASCAR Sponsership
Post by: Nuclear1 on February 20, 2011, 09:39:28 am
Considering the audience, I think this is smart advertising.  And the price sounds about what you'd expect for something like that.

So I'm not really sure what the problem is.
Because you don't need $7 million to let a bunch of rednecks know what the Army is.

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USN and USAAF

US Army Air Force?! Whatchu playin at :p
Title: Re: Army NASCAR Sponsership
Post by: ShadowWolf_IH on February 20, 2011, 10:10:46 am
It is actually smart economics.  When one considers that sponsors do recieve a portion of merchandise sales.  While the US Army may not receive 7m in returns from the sponsorship with Ryan Newman, the merchandise profit that they see in essence gets deducted from the 7m to figure expenditures.  The fun part is imagining the profitability of sponsoring Dale Earnhardt Jr.  Ya know, like the National Guard does.  He is a merchandiser's dream. 
Title: Re: Army NASCAR Sponsership
Post by: Nuke on February 20, 2011, 12:25:02 pm
7mil is pocket change for the us military. a single a-10 costs $11.8 million. an abrams tank costs $6.21 million. if we weren't constantly at war with people, id say that $7 is too much, but so long as there is demand for more troops, which the army is the branch that needs the most ground pounders, i really dont see any problem with $7 million being spent in this way. i mean what else are they gonna spend that money on, the poor?
Title: Re: Army NASCAR Sponsership
Post by: FUBAR-BDHR on February 20, 2011, 12:42:37 pm
Yea 7 million for 36 weeks of advertising?  Companies spend more then that for adds during the Superbowl. 
Title: Re: Army NASCAR Sponsership
Post by: StarSlayer on February 20, 2011, 01:16:20 pm
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USN and USAAF

US Army Air Force?! Whatchu playin at :p

Kicking it Old School.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b4/Us_army_air_corps_shield.svg)
Title: Re: Army NASCAR Sponsership
Post by: Thaeris on February 20, 2011, 07:39:55 pm
Apparently if we reduced the F-22 Raptor order by two (2) we could continue to fund NPR and PBS.   :blah:

You know, I'm not bothered at all by this, despite being an Air Force hopeful at one point in time. There's a lot of good, decent programming on PBS (though I think the mass appeal has somewhat reduced its level of quality, especially during the daytime) which you'll never find anywhere else. Everyone can benefit from these resources as well.

I think it is an irrefutable truth that we're rising back up to the point of a global arms race, but keep in mind new weapon systems are already in the works. The design labors of the 80's became the fighters of the 90's and so on. Wait 10-15 years, and we'll have something better than the Raptor if loosing out on a few ludicrously fighter aircraft is a concern to you. :D
Title: Re: Army NASCAR Sponsership
Post by: General Battuta on February 20, 2011, 07:48:39 pm
Apparently if we reduced the F-22 Raptor order by two (2) we could continue to fund NPR and PBS.   :blah:

You know, I'm not bothered at all by this, despite being an Air Force hopeful at one point in time. There's a lot of good, decent programming on PBS (though I think the mass appeal has somewhat reduced its level of quality, especially during the daytime) which you'll never find anywhere else. Everyone can benefit from these resources as well.

I think it is an irrefutable truth that we're rising back up to the point of a global arms race, but keep in mind new weapon systems are already in the works. The design labors of the 80's became the fighters of the 90's and so on. Wait 10-15 years, and we'll have something better than the Raptor if loosing out on a few ludicrously fighter aircraft is a concern to you. :D

I...what.

This seems to be a response to some bizarro world post that said exactly the opposite of what I said.

And no I don't think there's any kind of global arms race.
Title: Re: Army NASCAR Sponsership
Post by: Thaeris on February 20, 2011, 07:52:52 pm
I, Sir, am now equally confuzzled.

:p
Title: Re: Army NASCAR Sponsership
Post by: Scotty on February 20, 2011, 07:55:28 pm
"I am not bothered at all by this"  <-- implies that you're okay with PBS and NPR being cut for a pair of shiny new fighters.
Title: Re: Army NASCAR Sponsership
Post by: Thaeris on February 20, 2011, 07:58:15 pm
...Apparently, I have had a catastrophic lapse. I thus apologise for my prior statements.

...How odd...
Title: Re: Army NASCAR Sponsership
Post by: General Battuta on February 20, 2011, 08:03:48 pm
it's cool
Title: Re: Army NASCAR Sponsership
Post by: Nuke on February 20, 2011, 10:26:14 pm
Apparently if we reduced the F-22 Raptor order by two (2) we could continue to fund NPR and PBS.   :blah:

You know, I'm not bothered at all by this, despite being an Air Force hopeful at one point in time. There's a lot of good, decent programming on PBS (though I think the mass appeal has somewhat reduced its level of quality, especially during the daytime) which you'll never find anywhere else. Everyone can benefit from these resources as well.

pbs is the only channel left that plays decent documentaries not made out of 97% stock footage. it used to be the channel id look at when there was nothing on history or discovery, but now the roles are very reversed.
Title: Re: Army NASCAR Sponsership
Post by: BloodEagle on February 21, 2011, 01:07:37 am
I find that this is true, mainly due to the fact that The History Channel has undergone a metamorphosis from 'The WWII Network' to 'And Then The Aliens Invaded And Gave The Illuminati Beelzebub's Blood To Power Their Secret Anti-Gravity Generators' in the past few years.
Title: Re: Army NASCAR Sponsership
Post by: Nuke on February 21, 2011, 01:29:24 am
paranormal is so 90s
Title: Re: Army NASCAR Sponsership
Post by: Unknown Target on February 21, 2011, 02:16:38 am
Apparently if we reduced the F-22 Raptor order by two (2) we could continue to fund NPR and PBS.   :blah:

Source?