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Title: Campaign Ideas
Post by: Boct1584 on May 09, 2002, 10:56:14 am
I've been brainstorming for ideas for new campaigns; tell me what you think would be a good idea and why.
Title: Campaign Ideas
Post by: Nuclear1 on May 09, 2002, 11:46:55 am
Though I think that the Vasudan Second Great War is a good idea, I think that the Vasudan First Great War is better.
They get more of a role in that war than the second one......
Title: Campaign Ideas
Post by: CP5670 on May 09, 2002, 12:08:20 pm
I like Vasudans and their ships, so any of those things would be good, but one that I think would be really neat would be the NTF one; it would be especially neat to play the part where they have to evade the Colossus and get to Epsilon Pegasi near the end. A few of my standalone missions are like that. ;)
Title: Campaign Ideas
Post by: adwight on May 09, 2002, 06:49:55 pm
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I like Vasudans and their ships, so any of those things would be good, but one that I think would be really neat would be the NTF one; it would be especially neat to play the part where they have to evade the Colossus and get to Epsilon Pegasi near the end.


Theres already one being made for the NTF, Neo Terra Victorious.  We're working on it right now, and I'm part of the staff :P.  What if Belisarius never had to surrender...What if the Ares and Perseus never came into existance...What if the Neo Terran Front became Victorious...
Title: Campaign Ideas
Post by: Stryke 9 on May 09, 2002, 07:10:47 pm
If you gotta make a rerun, make it NTF. At least there there's some leeway as far as what's going on, and you don't risk some cheesy Shivan explanations (everyone's explanations for the Shivans suck; that is the nature of Shivans- they are to go unexplained.)
Title: Campaign Ideas
Post by: Alikchi on May 09, 2002, 07:16:46 pm
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Originally posted by CP5670
I think would be really neat would be the NTF one; it would be especially neat to play the part where they have to evade the Colossus and get to Epsilon Pegasi near the end.


Already being done by me :) except with a bit of alternate history..
Edit: Yeah, just saw Adwight's post. We'll be hosted at HLP..uhh..soon..
Title: Campaign Ideas
Post by: Corsair on May 09, 2002, 07:46:40 pm
I say do someting with the shivans so that you get to fly shivan ships but don't do something that will explain it really cornily
Title: Campaign Ideas
Post by: NotDefault on May 09, 2002, 08:00:31 pm
Anything but Shivans works, but I voted for the NTF anyway.  It would probably be the easiest to do, because they're still humans so you can understand their way of doing things.

A Vasudan campaign would only be good if there was actually a perceptable difference in the kind of missions, objectives of missions, etc. you get because you are Vasudan.  Just flying Vasudan ships is not enough.

A Shivan campaign would be bad, period, because the Shivans are always greater in number, more powerful, etc.  If you were a Shivan, there would be no overwhelming odds stacked up against you.  It would either be a cakewalk or have a cheesy (and annoying) excuse for making the Shivans weak.  Not only that, there is a reasonable chance the Shivans are some sort of robot or hive mind, but without knowing, you can't pull it off effectively.  Even if you did know the way their mind works, it would still be very hard to represent that.
Title: Campaign Ideas
Post by: Boct1584 on May 10, 2002, 07:45:42 am
So far, NTF Pilot has the most votes; someone wanna help me do this as a campaign? (EDIT: The only thing I still don't have a good grasp of in FRED2 is objective scripting and some event scripting.)
Title: Campaign Ideas
Post by: Kazashi on May 10, 2002, 07:46:03 am
I've always wanted to try my hand at making missions (yes missions, not maps) from the 18 month NTF campaign, even recreate the whole thing eventually. However I don't yet possess the skills required, plus there are bound to be such missions out there already, and histories which have to be taken into account. The point of my spiel? Recreating the NTF campaign would be good. :)


Either that, or a few missions from the Shivans point of view where you attack the GTVA. Would require a lot of creativity to achieve things such as briefings and communications, but would still be interesting.
Title: Campaign Ideas
Post by: TheCelestialOne on May 10, 2002, 07:48:02 am
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Originally posted by NotDefault
...but without knowing, you can't pull it off effectively...


That is what the creative mind is for! :D
Title: Campaign Ideas
Post by: Boct1584 on May 10, 2002, 07:56:00 am
Indeed.
Title: Campaign Ideas
Post by: Nuclear1 on May 10, 2002, 11:51:27 am
One more post.............. :D

Another idea wold be to get the HW universe involved. Say, have the Kunn-Lann jump in, lost, and have it face down a Ravana or so...... you take it from there.
Title: Campaign Ideas
Post by: TheCelestialOne on May 10, 2002, 11:58:02 am
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Originally posted by nuclear1
One more post.............. :D

Another idea wold be to get the HW universe involved. Say, have the Kunn-Lann jump in, lost, and have it face down a Ravana or so...... you take it from there.


Now THAT takes a creative mind!
Title: Campaign Ideas
Post by: beatspete on May 10, 2002, 12:55:36 pm
I voted for the 1st great war from the shivans point of view.  It would be best to do from a shivans point of view, since in the end the lucifer is destroyed, where as in the 2nd great war there wasnt a clear ending.  Plus it would give the shivans a chance to express their impresions about the terrans.

But this would be hard to do well, you would have to be careful to be quite general about the finer details of the shivans, it would be a mistake to lay down the law about how the shivans work.

pete
Title: Campaign Ideas
Post by: Galemp on May 10, 2002, 02:39:39 pm
I said I'd handle the Vasudan Great War, and I will... sometime. :doubt:
Title: Campaign Ideas
Post by: NotDefault on May 10, 2002, 03:01:44 pm
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Originally posted by TheCelestialOne
That is what the creative mind is for! :D


If you have ideas for creating an effective Shivan campaign, be my guest :).
Title: Campaign Ideas
Post by: an0n on May 10, 2002, 03:06:33 pm
NTF.
Title: Campaign Ideas
Post by: Black Wolf on May 10, 2002, 11:36:40 pm
NTF IS BEING DONE!!!!

Myself, Alikchi and Adwight are currently working on the campaign Neo Terra Victorious, and have been for about 2 months or more. Pick something else.
Title: Campaign Ideas
Post by: CP5670 on May 11, 2002, 12:27:20 am
I think he meant (also what I interpreted) a campaign that follows the original story but has you fighting as a NTF pilot.
Title: Campaign Ideas
Post by: NotDefault on May 11, 2002, 01:19:27 am
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Originally posted by Black Wolf
NTF IS BEING DONE!!!!

Myself, Alikchi and Adwight are currently working on the campaign Neo Terra Victorious, and have been for about 2 months or more. Pick something else.


Hey, just because you're doing it doesn't mean someone else can't.  That's like saying that doing a GTA campaign is bad because Volition has already done one :nod:.
Title: Campaign Ideas
Post by: Blue Lion on May 11, 2002, 01:32:13 am
You can never have too many campaigns