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Title: What weapons weren't in FS2?
Post by: aldo_14 on May 10, 2002, 04:15:37 pm

Can anyone tell me the weapons that weren't used in the FS2 main campaign?

This is important.......

I know the targeting laser, and I think the Shivan super laser.

Don't know about the secondaries (MX-50?)

Help needed! :)

Title: What weapons weren't in FS2?
Post by: WMCoolmon on May 10, 2002, 05:18:26 pm

I don't think the dogfight versions were used, either.

Title: What weapons weren't in FS2?
Post by: Stryke 9 on May 10, 2002, 06:06:39 pm

Dass multiplayah, hon. Dey's not FOAH de one-person campaign.;)

Title: What weapons weren't in FS2?
Post by: Kabal on May 10, 2002, 06:20:45 pm

Whats the difference between regular versions and dogfight versions?

Title: What weapons weren't in FS2?
Post by: Nuclear1 on May 10, 2002, 09:36:57 pm

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Originally posted by X-Files Addict
Whats the difference between regular versions and dogfight versions?

Dogfight versions are modified to be more suitable for a dogfight :D

Title: What weapons weren't in FS2?
Post by: Kabal on May 10, 2002, 10:28:53 pm

So they fire faster and have less energy use?

Title: What weapons weren't in FS2?
Post by: Nuclear1 on May 10, 2002, 10:44:24 pm

Precisely.

Also, I think the Vasudan Flux Cannon wasn't in there.

Title: What weapons weren't in FS2?
Post by: Stryke 9 on May 11, 2002, 12:23:00 am

They didn't work in single-player, for one.

The heavy guns were weaker, and the light guns more powerful. And that was about it. They don't really count.

Title: What weapons weren't in FS2?
Post by: CP5670 on May 11, 2002, 12:48:17 am

All the D weapons
AAAh
Targeting Laser
TAG-C
Shivan Super Laser
Vasudan Flux Cannon
Unknown bomb
Unknown Megabomb

Stuff I'm not sure of:

S-AAA-weak
Rebel bomb

Title: What weapons weren't in FS2?
Post by: Blue Lion on May 11, 2002, 12:59:33 am

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Originally posted by CP5670
All the D weapons

 Dogfight is it not?

Title: What weapons weren't in FS2?
Post by: Nuclear1 on May 11, 2002, 08:55:03 am

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Originally posted by CP5670
Rebel bomb

"Into the Maelstrom"
The Medusas launch an ordinace designated "Rebel Bomb". They're extremely weak compared to most bombs.

Title: What weapons weren't in FS2?
Post by: Alikchi on May 11, 2002, 10:54:24 am

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Originally posted by nuclear1


"Into the Maelstrom"
The Medusas launch an ordinace designated "Rebel Bomb". They're extremely weak compared to most bombs.

It's basically a Tsunami. I have the NTF using Tsunamis in my campaign, so just think of em as that.

Title: What weapons weren't in FS2?
Post by: Nuclear1 on May 11, 2002, 11:54:00 am

Actually Rebel bombs are weaker than Tsunamis. Tsus should be able to take down a freighter in at least two hits. A Reb Bomb takes about four or five.

Title: What weapons weren't in FS2?
Post by: Kabal on May 11, 2002, 09:42:01 pm

The Tsunami and the Rebel Bomb use the same model. I doubt they have anything else in common.

Title: What weapons weren't in FS2?
Post by: Stryke 9 on May 11, 2002, 09:44:02 pm

Er... the Rebel Bomb is supposed to be a fire-and-forget Cyclops, I think...;)

Title: What weapons weren't in FS2?
Post by: Kabal on May 11, 2002, 09:58:51 pm

Possibly...NTF Bombers usually fired and veered away in a matter of seconds...could be fire-and-forget.

Title: What weapons weren't in FS2?
Post by: Stryke 9 on May 11, 2002, 10:24:25 pm

In fact, it probably says so right in the table... I don't know where else I would have gotten that tidbit from, and I don't see myself having gone to the trouble to figure that out by comparing the numbers...

Title: What weapons weren't in FS2?
Post by: Kabal on May 11, 2002, 10:27:02 pm

right....:snipe:

Title: What weapons weren't in FS2?
Post by: aldo_14 on May 12, 2002, 08:20:30 am

I need to knowe which weapons were used in the main camapign, so I don't overwrite them...... I want to try and keep the techroom working, so I'm trying to replace rather than add.

Title: What weapons weren't in FS2?
Post by: EdrickV on May 12, 2002, 12:52:08 pm

AAAh is used in 7 missions. Here is how to tell what is and isn't used: Extract all the missions, the ships.tbl, and the weapons.tbl to a folder. Use Find Files & Folders to search that folder for files that contain the weapon name. (inside double quotes)

Title: What weapons weren't in FS2?
Post by: CP5670 on May 12, 2002, 01:06:46 pm

Oh okay; maybe that was a gameplay tweak for certain missions. (AAAh is less accurate) The S-AAA-weak might be in there somewhere as well, but I haven't seen it yet. I guess a revised list would be:

All the D weapons  
Targeting Laser
TAG-C
Shivan Super Laser
Vasudan Flux Cannon
Unknown bomb
Unknown Megabomb
S-AAA-weak

Title: What weapons weren't in FS2?
Post by: Kabal on May 12, 2002, 07:32:14 pm

The Unknown Bomb and Unknown Megabomb were used by Shivan Bombers I think.

Title: What weapons weren't in FS2?
Post by: elorran on May 12, 2002, 08:56:51 pm

Never known the 'unknown' bombs to be used in the main campaign, but it's been a good while since I checked those missions.  I really should pull them out again for reference in Angel Storm.

Title: What weapons weren't in FS2?
Post by: Kabal on May 12, 2002, 09:16:22 pm

:yes:

Title: What weapons weren't in FS2?
Post by: TrashMan on May 13, 2002, 02:29:36 am

The Vasudan Flux Cannon is mounted on the Hatesput class destroyers. (the missile like, slow moving granade).!

Title: What weapons weren't in FS2?
Post by: EdrickV on May 13, 2002, 02:36:17 am

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Originally posted by TrashMan
The Vasudan Flux Cannon is mounted on the Hatesput class destroyers. (the missile like, slow moving granade).!

Not by default. The Hateesput's default weapons include:
SVas
BVas
Fusion Mortar
Standard Flak
Terran Huge Turret
AAAf

Title: What weapons weren't in FS2?
Post by: CP5670 on May 13, 2002, 02:53:29 am

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The Unknown Bomb and Unknown Megabomb were used by Shivan Bombers I think.

Actually those were used by the Shivans in FS1, but in FS2 they just used the GTVA bombs. :p

Title: What weapons weren't in FS2?
Post by: Tar-Palantir on May 13, 2002, 04:06:20 am

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NTF Bombers usually fired and veered away in a matter of seconds...could be fire-and-forget.

In that case all the bombs in FS were fire-and-forget, because I can do the same with the Cylopse (sp?) in a bomber.

There was the Vasudan Light Laser in the table? If so it's basically a left over since it does very little shield damage (and only a little more hull damage).

Title: What weapons weren't in FS2?
Post by: Kabal on May 13, 2002, 01:48:04 pm

Usually you cant get a good lock on a target with a bunch of fighters shooting you. I don't think the computer used aspect locking. If you notice, they always fire missiles very quickly.

Title: What weapons weren't in FS2?
Post by: Nuclear1 on May 13, 2002, 02:05:03 pm

maybe its the "good-secondary time" SEXP...... :nervous:

Title: What weapons weren't in FS2?
Post by: Kabal on May 13, 2002, 08:13:49 pm

???:confused: :confused: :confused: