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Modding, Mission Design, and Coding => The FRED Workshop => Topic started by: Grizzly on March 30, 2011, 03:52:00 am
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I've heard a few bits here and there that both Derelict and, apperently, Blackwater Operations, are part of the 'Cold Element' story.
Or something
So what exactly is 'Codl Element', and which campaigns are part of it?
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Aftermatch, Derelict, Warzone, Twilight and BWO.
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I'm defining it as a serie of campaigns, set in Freespace universe with the same fan-made alterations [like shipclasses, nodemap, unique ships etc.].
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Could you please remind me what twilight is? I do remember an old post capella campaign I once played whose last mission involved the destruction of a faustus so the shivans could attack a rogue orion... it also involved a custom fighter (don't remember the name) of the TV war era... might that be in fact twilight?
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Maybe.
It also had quite good custom music and a few nice weapons.
http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/Twilight
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Dear Lord, why does one consider Twilight?
I've always felt that Twilight - just like a recent series of novels - was effectively described as an adventure in terrible. Now, you're free to check it out, of course. In fact, now that you've started on your adventure, you might as well carry it through. After all, an adventure in terrible is only made manifest when you experience it for yourself... :p
In a more serious light, I felt the writing with respect to briefings, dialogue, and plot (aka, in general) were not well thought through, tech elements were poorly chosen for a Post-Capella setting, etc. If memory serves proper, Twilight is a "fan-made story installment to a fan-made story," and it shows.
And yes, starlord, your memory serves you well. That's the last mission of the campaign (or one of the last), complete with that rediculous, over-sized fighter.
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Some of Cold Element is either eh (Warzone) or actively kinda bad (Twilight) but Derelict was tight and BWO promises to be awesome.
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I think of Warzone in the positive of the "eh" scale, as it's really pretty decent as a whole when it comes to gameplay and storyline. It will never be the best, certainly, but I thought it worked itself out well. Compare it to something like Aeos Affair, which does not have good writing, and often has poorly devised gameplay or operations. Both are a bit campy, but only the former "jives well" with its campyness. Of course, that's only my opinion.
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I like Warzone for the kill counts.
156 kills in four missions. :pimp:
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I like Warzone for the kill counts.
156 kills in four missions. :pimp:
I once got over 120 kills in a single mission
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I once got over 120 kills in a single mission
Wut? :eek2: In what mission?
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Sounds like a SGWP2 mission to me.
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Sounds like a SGWP2 mission to me.
Must be. I can't even remember a mission in Warzone that actually had that many ships.
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There's one mission where you escort a convoy or something and then when they leave this comparatively huge Shivan force shows up. And doesn't do anything. At all. It sits there until you shoot at them. And the waves keep respawning. I got six Rakshasa kills that mission, IIRC, because I'd just sit back and lob trebs and call a support ship every once in a while. And lots of fighter kills. Lots.
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I very much enjoy playing through Warzone myself. It wasn't quite the absolute classic that Derelict is, but it's solid through and through.
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I very much liked the vidar!
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I once got over 120 kills in a single mission
Wut? :eek2: In what mission?
A mission I made myself.
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Too bad Aftermath and Twilight don't work on the latest MediaVPs.. Heck, I even tried with 3.6.10 MediaVPs. Both throw up a bunch of warnings that I can't be arsed to sort out.
Where's FSCRP when you need em?.... :doubt:
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wasn't aftermath remade?
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If it wasn't, it will be. :D
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It was.. but who knows how long ago that was. That is the one that gives me the warning that "the mod has caused 20 warnings... yada yada..."
Personally, in the release stickied 'released campaigns' thread I would like to see either a release date OR recommended VPs & FSO build OR both.
As it is now, we download it and have to guess.
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I once got over 120 kills in a single mission
Wut? :eek2: In what mission?
A mission I made myself.
Well, potentially, you can get hundreds of kills in a mission if you put a bunch of unshielded ships in close proximity and lob a Cyclops or two in there.
And on the topic of Cold Element, I recall this happening in one very awesome mission of Derelict.
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It was.. but who knows how long ago that was. That is the one that gives me the warning that "the mod has caused 20 warnings... yada yada..."
Personally, in the release stickied 'released campaigns' thread I would like to see either a release date OR recommended VPs & FSO build OR both.
As it is now, we download it and have to guess.
You want to find it all? Be my guest.
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Well, I suppose it would be a big chore to backlog all that data. However, perhaps that info could be added to releases from here forward?
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I once got over 120 kills in a single mission
Wut? :eek2: In what mission?
A mission I made myself.
Well, potentially, you can get hundreds of kills in a mission if you put a bunch of unshielded ships in close proximity and lob a Cyclops or two in there.
And on the topic of Cold Element, I recall this happening in one very awesome mission of Derelict.
Nah, I had to dogfight and shoot down each one.