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Title: The Proper Way To Corrupt
Post by: docfu on April 20, 2011, 08:52:08 pm
In the spirit of introducing new people to Freespace:

I promised one of my 3rd grade Japanese students that I would let him play Freespace 2 : Blue Planet : War In Heaven when he passes his next reading test.

As of this point he has not seen any part of Freespace, the only thing he has seen is my Saitek X-52 Joystick and my Sharp 37" LCD screen.

I was thinking his introduction to Freespace should be War In Heaven: Mission 2 vs the Aeolus because it's nice and flashy and it's a stable target. I think dogfighting would be a little hard and might make everyone else watching dizzy.

The flak should be nice. The alternative missions include Blue Planet : Forced Entry and Blue Planet : Preserve the Balance for the voice acting and the nice colors.

Comments?
Title: Re: The Proper Way To Corrupt
Post by: General Battuta on April 20, 2011, 08:58:12 pm
D:

Aren't those a little...hard? Put it on Very Easy at least.
Title: Re: The Proper Way To Corrupt
Post by: docfu on April 20, 2011, 09:24:50 pm
Of course.

Let's look at it from the other side. If I give him a nice easy introduction, couple of freighters or a supply depot, for instance, then every time he tells his friends about Freespace 2 the conversation will go like:

"I played this game at my teacher's house, it was really cool! I blew up a ton of ships and I won!"

...

Yeah, that's boring as all hell. Now the alternative:

"I don't know what the hell just happened but I'll never forget the letters A E O L U and S ever again."

...

Besides, if it's an Aeolus I only have one more vowel to go.
Title: Re: The Proper Way To Corrupt
Post by: bigchunk1 on April 20, 2011, 09:26:27 pm
If you want to give them a one mission tour... why not try 'The Blade Itself' campaign? The controls of a capital ship are pretty stable and it allows a lot of nice visuals to look at. Only downside is capital ships might be a little slow for their tastes, but you know them best.

On the fighter side, Plunder is a nice easy and straightforward mission, If you can explain to them how disabling a ship works.

Other than that, maybe AoA would be a better campaign to show them around. Forced entry is definately a good pick. then there is the mission 'Universal Truth'. They might get a kick out of that one on very easy. It's a really nice large battle.

Edit: Actually, for FE the beam disabling might be a bit tricky.
Title: Re: The Proper Way To Corrupt
Post by: Veers on April 20, 2011, 09:26:56 pm
Almost sounds like proper education to me...  :yes:
Title: Re: The Proper Way To Corrupt
Post by: Rodo on April 20, 2011, 11:13:07 pm
you don't want to introduce a student to freespace, not if you want him to keep studying :P
Title: Re: The Proper Way To Corrupt
Post by: SypheDMar on April 20, 2011, 11:24:55 pm
Is the second mission the one where you jump in front of flaks? If so, he might die before he gets to understand the controls, and nobody likes to have a backseat gamer telling them what to do.
Title: Re: The Proper Way To Corrupt
Post by: General Battuta on April 20, 2011, 11:36:31 pm
Honestly I'd give him something with voice acting.
Title: Re: The Proper Way To Corrupt
Post by: Droid803 on April 21, 2011, 12:23:59 am
Into the Lion's Den IMO.

Watch freakout during DIVE DIVE DIVE HIT YOUR BURNERS PILOT.

Then *splat*

Lesson: Sometimes, **** just happens, and it runs you over if you're not prepared for it.
Title: Re: The Proper Way To Corrupt
Post by: Rodo on April 21, 2011, 12:42:37 am
Yeah, DIVE DIVE DIVE!
Title: Re: The Proper Way To Corrupt
Post by: esarai on April 21, 2011, 12:45:57 am
If you do chose DIVE DIVE DIVE, at least take a video of his response.

Though I feel like throwing this kid in right in the middle might be overloading enough as it is.  From what I've seen with my own crowd, space combat takes some time to get used to. 

Just for kicks make it an EC assignment :P
Title: Re: The Proper Way To Corrupt
Post by: The E on April 21, 2011, 01:05:08 am
Honestly? You're doing it wrong. You don't start off by showing them what we think of as the most awesome moments in FS, because without context, these things are void and hollow. Also, given that they're built on the assumption that the player is completely at home with the controls, showing them to a noobie who isn't will probably lead to frustration.
Title: Re: The Proper Way To Corrupt
Post by: crizza on April 21, 2011, 03:18:59 am
Well...If a Child in germany would tell his friends, that he played computer at his teachers house...I guess three huors later the police would knock on your door^^
Title: Re: The Proper Way To Corrupt
Post by: Dilmah G on April 21, 2011, 05:22:07 am
I remember playing the last mission with the 53rd at a mate's house when I was about 11 and the other blokes there were all stood in awe at the intensity and we were a few years out of 3rd grade, so I think something lighter by our standards would fit reasonably well.
Title: Re: The Proper Way To Corrupt
Post by: Qent on April 21, 2011, 07:31:26 am
The FS2 training missions struck me as "Wow, that's awesome!" when I first started. And I was 17 or 18? :nervous:
Title: Re: The Proper Way To Corrupt
Post by: Snail on April 21, 2011, 08:08:57 am
The FS2 training missions (and FS2 in general, really) struck me as kind of comical at first, especially with the instructor's voice and the pink lasers (and pink nebulae).
Title: Re: The Proper Way To Corrupt
Post by: Destiny on April 21, 2011, 08:53:42 pm
There's blue and red and even green parts of the nebula, you know~ But really, where did you see pink lasers? The stock Subach was red.
Title: Re: The Proper Way To Corrupt
Post by: MatthTheGeek on April 22, 2011, 03:31:21 am
He's probably among the same colorblind people who see pink in the MVP shivan beams.
Title: Re: The Proper Way To Corrupt
Post by: pecenipicek on April 22, 2011, 03:59:14 am
There's blue and red and even green parts of the nebula, you know~ But really, where did you see pink lasers? The stock Subach was red.
He's probably among the same colorblind people who see pink in the MVP shivan beams.
i'd rather blame a badly calibrated monitor for that to be honest...
Title: Re: The Proper Way To Corrupt
Post by: Kolgena on April 22, 2011, 11:29:05 am
Grade 3? As in, like 8 years old grade 3? Wouldn't the training missions be more than enough? Plus, little kiddies like to follow instructions sometimes.

If I've misunderstood the age, then I'd have to agree with people who have been suggesting something that isn't huge on shock value.
1) It might make the rest of the game kinda drab in comparision if they play the entire thing up to that point
2) They won't get it, and it becomes more of a spoiler, less of a "cool that was awesome" moment.
3) "The mission started and I died in 4 seconds. What the **** is this ****? This game is stupid". (Aeolus flak spam)
Title: Re: The Proper Way To Corrupt
Post by: -Norbert- on April 22, 2011, 12:43:48 pm
Maybe start with the SOC mission then.
"Dive, Dive Dive!".... splash.... WTF was that?
Title: Re: The Proper Way To Corrupt
Post by: -Sara- on April 22, 2011, 07:50:57 pm
Kids game more difficult games, earlier and earlier. I had serious competition on the Wii against my 12 years old cousin the other day, it wasn't funny. :P I guess if your student gets into FS2, he may like it.
Title: Re: The Proper Way To Corrupt
Post by: Destiny on April 22, 2011, 10:19:20 pm
Maybe start with the SOC mission then.
"Dive, Dive Dive!".... splash.... WTF was that?
Oh, this is the best idea. Make sure he has MAX volume, and plays it in the middle of the night in the silence of the darkness! With all the lights off, curtains drawn.
Title: Re: The Proper Way To Corrupt
Post by: Veers on April 28, 2011, 09:38:44 am
I first started playing FS, ...

I had the demo for FS2, it came in bundle in a graphics card box that my cousin left me (new card for the pc). And the art of the disk looked cool, and then the intro movies kinda had me sold on the game.

Training was good, and then I just kept playing, and playing, and playing. Until I bought FS1 atleast 3 yrs later, and FS2 1.5 yrs after that. (and FSOpen 6 months after that). And here I am today (nearly 1 year after getting FS2).

Movies/Cutscenes... I blame them :)

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Playing the full FS2 was a great relief though, I didnt think it could have expanded like it did. And that Sath rammed me pretty hard the first time... scared me sh*tless... (considering it jumped from 1/2 loaded to the 3rd "DIVE" nearly instantly...)
Title: Re: The Proper Way To Corrupt
Post by: docfu on May 02, 2011, 06:38:53 am
Actually after some serious consideration I think I'm gonna go with Vassago's Dirge: The mission where the Carthage and the 8 Mjolnir's take out the Vassago and it's fleet. Nice and pretty, decently long, not a need to kill a lot of stuff.

Most of the other missions I took at look at were either:

A. in the middle of a hard to understand plot (a non-native speaker wouldn't know what Dive meant, except that you aim for empty space and fire the afterburners). As a player you have to imagine your ship moving, it's not a lot to look at though.

B. too difficult to be beatable in any short amount of time.

I got one more week before his reading test to think things over. I'll calibrate the X-52 to target big ships and teach him the correct order to target the ships in. Shouldn't be too bad.

Hopefully his mum will like the classic music as well.