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Title: Soooo good.
Post by: Spoon on April 27, 2011, 07:45:32 pm

So you punks like BP:WiH huh?

Well guess what.
You've seen nothing. NOTHING.


WiH R2 is so much better than R1. My mind has been blown and my world has been rocked.
Mission design that is so incredibly complex and well fredded and most of all, its fun. Story and plot so well written, important things are being revealed ladies and gentlemen!
The BP team has taken almost every bit of criticism I had of R1 and created well... a masterpiece.

Let the hype commence.

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: Rodo on April 27, 2011, 07:57:07 pm

hyper!

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: Raiden on April 27, 2011, 07:59:16 pm

Glad to hear it. I'm honestly looking forward to War in Heaven R2 more than any other piece of entertainment out there. It usurped Mass Effect for me as my favourite series this 'generation.' Reminds of how much I was looking forward to the mega-budget Phantom Menace in '99, only for it to be completely blown away by a little-known, no-hyped action film called The Matrix. Except ME is actually good but you know what I mean.

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: SpardaSon21 on April 27, 2011, 08:27:41 pm

Can we have screenshots and teaser videos to feed our hype?

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: Spoon on April 27, 2011, 08:30:05 pm

Quote from: SpardaSon21 on April 27, 2011, 08:27:41 pm

Can we have screenshots and teaser videos to feed our hype?

Are my wonderful words not enough?!

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: SpardaSon21 on April 27, 2011, 08:41:39 pm

It is enough to start hype, not continue it until the release of WiH R2.

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: Trivial Psychic on April 27, 2011, 09:34:04 pm

Can we expect WiH-R1-Director's Cut to come out before R2 or not?

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: General Battuta on April 27, 2011, 09:39:46 pm

That's hard to say. Voice acting made significant progress but then basically screeched to a halt when IssMneur got busy.

We would need someone very literate to work on generating scripts for voice actors.

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: redsniper on April 27, 2011, 09:58:27 pm

I am more excited for WiH R2 than for any other game, mod, or what have you.

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: PsychoLandlord on April 27, 2011, 10:05:40 pm

When the guy who crafted my other favorite FS2 campaign offers praise like that, my attention is grabbed.

Consider R2 hyped.

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: Ypoknons on April 27, 2011, 10:22:17 pm

Ah, it's just a video game.

I want to issue the orders that will bring the roar of artillery shooting past my fighter. I want to feel the slow burn of tev whiskey liberated with ice cometary water. I want to hear the voices of the Vishnans in my head. I want to feel the pulse of the stars following through my veins.  The penance of the ancients. The combination of the planet ears. The wisdom of the Elders. The balls of Steele.

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: Deadly in a Shadow on April 27, 2011, 11:34:14 pm

I want to see the last cataclysmic battles of the Sol-GTVA war. I want to see Byrne's secret project. I want Shivans in Sol (not really). I want dozens of Narayanas firing at the Atreus or the Imperieuse (taking-you-with-me) Jesus, thanks to you Spoon, the expectation for R2 rips me apart. ;7

Sooo, that means the release could be soon?

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: CommanderDJ on April 27, 2011, 11:40:38 pm

I want to know who/what Ken is.

Plus all the other stuff.

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: -Sara- on April 28, 2011, 05:01:56 am

Like I already told Battuta, I don't want to experience anything spoilerish or whatsoever, until playing the story all at once. :P

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: JCDNWarrior on April 28, 2011, 05:47:20 am

Definitely looking forward greatly to it, though I'm betting, like WiH1 did to me last year, I'm going to have to rewrite and rework a lot of my current stuff to be a lot better before I'd even dare to release it to the public ;)

Keep up the good work, definitely hope it's release is not very far off.

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: Destiny on April 28, 2011, 06:02:21 am

I-I'm not a p-punk or anything, b-baka....



...never mind that. Still, for some reason I'm not really hyped up to the point of going 'omgomgomgomgwantwantwant!!', but I'm still looking forward to R2...a lot...lots. Maybe because I've adapted to being patient for good stuff. I wonder if we're going to see a GTVA-UEF-Vishnan-Shivan battle over Earth...

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: X3N0-Life-Form on April 28, 2011, 06:08:11 am

Quote from: Destiny on April 28, 2011, 06:02:21 am

I wonder if we're going to see a GTVA-UEF-Vishnan-Shivan battle over Earth...

"Massive Battle Xtreme : put every ship from every mission from each campaign"
(and watch your computer as it melts down)

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: -Sara- on April 28, 2011, 06:40:51 am

Then I should better start overclocking and pumping the liquid nitrogen in. :P (Not that I will).

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: Satellight on April 28, 2011, 06:49:22 am

Quote from: Deadly in a Shadow on April 27, 2011, 11:34:14 pm

I want dozens of Narayanas firing at the Atreus or the Imperieuse (taking-you-with-me)

THIS. I want...
REVENGE.
I want strong moments before my screen.
I want to cry.
I want to to feel the same strong emotions I felt while playing "Delenda Est"

But... I'm also patient. Take your time to be AWESOME. Thank you in advance for the dreams you'll give us !

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: Veers on April 28, 2011, 09:21:11 am

I want*...

Cutscenes (something about them... just amazing)
Capital Ship Control

Spoiler:

Blood, Tears and undying determination (the same I felt when playing Medal of Honor, 4 guys vs x amount of Afgan rushing down that hill, with rpgs etcetc. and no ammo.. ) (aka, we're fked and we fighting anyway). :)

I have a personal interest in the Fedayeen, and this project of the first fleet. But mainly the Fedayeen, I want to know if the Lucy surviving Vasudans went with them.
I would like to see the Indus again, and the Vishnans.. but keep that Shivan super J away. Earth is not a light snack for it.


And, if such a battle existed. And my puter would melt, entirely worth it!.

* denotes a lot of wants from BP. Which, BP delivers regardless.

My noobness aside for a moment, I am really looking forward to R2. BP is pretty much like a movie to me, I love it. Over and over again. Maybe Im watching the Indus fall towards the Sun too much...

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: Luis Dias on April 28, 2011, 09:22:54 am

Quote from: Spoon on April 27, 2011, 07:45:32 pm

So you punks like BP:WiH huh?

Well guess what.
You've seen nothing. NOTHING.


WiH R2 is so much better than R1. My mind has been blown and my world has been rocked.
Mission design that is so incredibly complex and well fredded and most of all, its fun. Story and plot so well written, important things are being revealed ladies and gentlemen!
The BP team has taken almost every bit of criticism I had of R1 and created well... a masterpiece.

Let the hype commence.

Great. Now I'm dying to play it and it is still many months away. Thanks for making me suffer through the wait.

You should be jailed for this. Just sayin.

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: bigchunk1 on April 29, 2011, 12:07:37 am

Aww Spoon, I ache with anticipation.

Quote from: -Sara- on April 28, 2011, 05:01:56 am

Like I already told Battuta, I don't want to experience anything spoilerish or whatsoever, until playing the story all at once. :P

My thoughts exactly. I want everything to hit me like a truck.

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: Droid803 on April 29, 2011, 12:18:27 am

I don't want to expect anything even. Which means I should GTFO of this thread cause I don't even want hype.

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: -Sara- on April 29, 2011, 08:16:14 am

Maybe we should add this specific topic to our site-block lists to not waste ourselfs with spoilers, Droid803. :P

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: Kolgena on April 29, 2011, 10:14:28 am

I want non-****ty framerates.

That aside, I had no idea that R2 had this much progress at this point. I am pleasantly surprised.

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: Ypoknons on April 29, 2011, 11:27:43 am

Last time I heard something about the next Act being almost finished and then the next two still getting worked on or something like that, or something like that.

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: crizza on April 29, 2011, 11:31:20 am

Lets stick spoon on top of an Apocalypse and send him flying.

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: The E on April 29, 2011, 11:55:16 am

Quote from: Ypoknons on April 29, 2011, 11:27:43 am

Last time I heard something about the next Act being almost finished and then the next two still getting worked on or something like that, or something like that.

That is essentially correct. WiH has a 5-Act structure, and what you played in WiH R1 is acts 1 and 2. Act 3 is more or less finished, and currently in betatesting (which is why Spoon got to play it). Acts 4 and 5 are pretty much planned out, but actual FREDing still needs to be done.

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: CKid on April 29, 2011, 12:40:51 pm

Hang on, 5 chapters? I thought WiH was going to be 4 chapters, each one being 15 missions long.

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: Deadly in a Shadow on April 29, 2011, 12:46:57 pm

Me too. And every act has about 15 missions? :eek:

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: CKid on April 29, 2011, 12:52:16 pm

oops, I mean the first two acts together were 15 missions so I thought the other two would also be 15 missions together making WiH the same length as AoA. (30 missions)

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: General Battuta on April 29, 2011, 01:04:14 pm

Quote from: CKid on April 29, 2011, 12:52:16 pm

oops, I mean the first two acts together were 15 missions so I thought the other two would also be 15 missions together making WiH the same length as AoA. (30 missions)

This is more like it. Five acts, spread over two releases, one already out. Act 3 is eight missions, though one of those missions is...it could probably be counted as more than one mission, I suppose. Acts 4 and 5 should be targeting similar-ish lengths.

This will make R2 about 1/3 larger than R1. Perhaps a bit more.

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: The E on April 29, 2011, 01:08:12 pm

The point is, we don't really want to pin us down on any specific length. We have an approximate length we're shooting for, but things might happen that will cause us to drop missions or add others.

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: crizza on April 29, 2011, 02:14:11 pm

Well, it's like writing a good book. You have your storyboard and everything, but while you're writing it often happens, that the plot develops unexpected.

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: JCDNWarrior on April 29, 2011, 02:16:51 pm

Happens to me a lot too Crizza, so it's only logical the dev team doesn't want to be pinned down on what they've said many months before release. By the time you're done shaving things down to exactly where you want it to be, a lot may have changed.

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: Jellyfish on April 29, 2011, 03:43:43 pm

Reminds me of the early days of CG movies. By the time you finished the movie, you did so with techniques you didn't use when you started, so you redid the movie with those new techniques, and then you find more new techniques...
Cue dev hell.

With that said, I've never been more exciting for anything since April 14. Good job as always.

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: Shivan Hunter on April 29, 2011, 04:17:28 pm

Quote from: General Battuta on April 29, 2011, 01:04:14 pm

though one of those missions is...it could probably be counted as more than one mission, I suppose

;7

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: General Battuta on April 29, 2011, 04:21:01 pm

Quote from: Shivan Hunter on April 29, 2011, 04:17:28 pm

Quote from: General Battuta on April 29, 2011, 01:04:14 pm

though one of those missions is...it could probably be counted as more than one mission, I suppose

;7

I don't want to get too excited and start people having wild fantasies of 60-minute multiple-checkpoint uberbattles. Keep expectations reasonable!

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: Snail on April 29, 2011, 04:23:58 pm

Save for Act 4

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: Shivan Hunter on April 29, 2011, 04:47:06 pm

Quote from: General Battuta on April 29, 2011, 04:21:01 pm

Quote from: Shivan Hunter on April 29, 2011, 04:17:28 pm

Quote from: General Battuta on April 29, 2011, 01:04:14 pm

though one of those missions is...it could probably be counted as more than one mission, I suppose

;7

I don't want to get too excited and start people having wild fantasies of 60-minute multiple-checkpoint uberbattles. Keep expectations reasonable!

r2 can't possibly be a letdown. If it's half as good as WiH r1 it'll still be an absolutely stunning experience.

Take all the time you need, work those sexps, unf unf unf

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: Jellyfish on April 29, 2011, 05:30:15 pm

Quote from: General Battuta on April 29, 2011, 04:21:01 pm

60-minute multiple-checkpoint uberbattles.

The heavens threw me a vision after I read this: 'The Blade Itself II'

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: PsychoLandlord on April 29, 2011, 05:55:03 pm

Quote from: Jellyfish on April 29, 2011, 05:30:15 pm

Quote from: General Battuta on April 29, 2011, 04:21:01 pm

60-minute multiple-checkpoint uberbattles.

The heavens threw me a vision after I read this: 'The Blade Itself II'

Hallelujah.

(Please let the capship mission concept be expanded in R2, it's such a good idea and works so well. :nervous:)

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: Kolgena on April 29, 2011, 10:50:25 pm

You should make it so that decisions made in R2 carry over to R3.

>.>
<.<

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: General Battuta on April 29, 2011, 10:58:03 pm

There won't be a BP2R3, just BP3. But I see what you did there!

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: CaptJosh on May 01, 2011, 10:09:15 am

Ok, what is with R1 and R2? This isn't Inferno.

It's Part 1 and Part 2, last I checked.

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: The E on May 01, 2011, 10:13:43 am

No, it's not. It's WiH R1 and R2. We've been using that since forever.

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: General Battuta on May 01, 2011, 10:14:28 am

Both are in common usage, hardly matters.

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: Darius on May 01, 2011, 10:16:37 am

I thought R1 and R2 were used when a modpack is being rereleased in an updated form but either one works...

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: Dragon on May 01, 2011, 11:48:36 am

Not that it really matters, as long as people know what we're talking about.
On a second though, let's argue about that a bit more. It'll keep people occupied while we're working.  :)

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: 666maslo666 on May 02, 2011, 01:56:02 pm

Proper hyppage demands screens! :)

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: Fury on May 03, 2011, 12:46:11 am

Some screenshots were posted three and half months ago.
http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=64322.msg1461824#msg1461824

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: General Battuta on May 03, 2011, 07:51:37 am

The skybox on that mission is cooler now.

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: Spoon on May 03, 2011, 08:11:57 am

Risking my life and showing that in the end beta testers can never be trusted because they will breach the NDA at any chance they will get...
I bring you this screenshot
(http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/3262/ein.png)

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: Rodo on May 03, 2011, 08:19:01 am

wow that looks soo cool!

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: Destiny on May 03, 2011, 08:35:35 am

If you can slap a very good background in, then enable trails in FRED...voila. Done.


But if it's from Spoon...it must really be!

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: Deadly in a Shadow on May 03, 2011, 08:46:53 am

Quote from: Spoon on May 03, 2011, 08:11:57 am

Risking my life and showing that in the end beta testers can never be trusted because they will breach the NDA at any chance they will get...
I bring you this screenshot
(http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/3262/ein.png)

Thumbs up for atmosphere-missions! Damn you Spoon, I can't wait.

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: Icewater on May 03, 2011, 09:43:19 am

That... that skybox :eek:. Er... spacebox?

Anyway, I've long thought that one of FS2's biggest graphics issues is the repetition of the same ugly low-res backgrounds over and over, glad to see they've got some new ones they look amazing!

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: Colonol Dekker on May 03, 2011, 10:01:05 am

So, ummmmmm...............

How long est?

srs enquiry?

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: General Battuta on May 03, 2011, 10:02:09 am

Quote from: Dekker on May 03, 2011, 10:01:05 am

So, ummmmmm...............

How long est?

srs enquiry?

8 missions done and tested.

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: Colonol Dekker on May 03, 2011, 10:11:51 am

A fine benchmark :yes:

Thanks very much  ;) I hope to see the flying sandwich of doom Armada encapsulate earth sometime in 2012 :nod:

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: Deadly in a Shadow on May 03, 2011, 10:27:30 am

Quote from: Dekker on May 03, 2011, 10:11:51 am

A fine benchmark :yes:

Thanks very much  ;) I hope to see the flying sandwich of doom Armada encapsulate earth sometime in 2012 :nod:

I want to see the Atreus and the Imperieuse in earth orbit in 2012.

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: Colonol Dekker on May 03, 2011, 10:50:03 am

+1 :yes:

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: MatthTheGeek on May 03, 2011, 11:01:40 am

You want to be beamed from orbit in 2012 ?

Because Earth will never surrender to an outside invading army, you know.

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: Destiny on May 03, 2011, 11:04:23 am

Quote from: MatthTheGeek on May 03, 2011, 11:01:40 am

You want to be beamed from orbit in 2012 ?

Because Earth will never surrender to an outside invading army, you know.

But we're...we're...GTA! The Galactic Terran Alliance! So...we...we...uhh...ummm...well...just have to...get re-incorporated into the Galactic Terran-Vasudan Alliance...!

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: General Battuta on May 03, 2011, 11:06:05 am

Quote from: Destiny on May 03, 2011, 11:04:23 am

Quote from: MatthTheGeek on May 03, 2011, 11:01:40 am

You want to be beamed from orbit in 2012 ?

Because Earth will never surrender to an outside invading army, you know.

But we're...we're...GTA! The Galactic Terran Alliance! So...we...we...uhh...ummm...well...just have to...get re-incorporated into the Galactic Terran-Vasudan Alliance...!

UEF's been around longer than the GTA at this point.

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: Destiny on May 03, 2011, 11:09:57 am

Quote from: General Battuta on May 03, 2011, 11:06:05 am

Quote from: Destiny on May 03, 2011, 11:04:23 am

Quote from: MatthTheGeek on May 03, 2011, 11:01:40 am

You want to be beamed from orbit in 2012 ?

Because Earth will never surrender to an outside invading army, you know.

But we're...we're...GTA! The Galactic Terran Alliance! So...we...we...uhh...ummm...well...just have to...get re-incorporated into the Galactic Terran-Vasudan Alliance...!

UEF's been around longer than the GTA at this point.

I doubt that we're part of the GTA as of 12:08AM, 4th of May, 2011...although Ubuntu is quite popular. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28operating_system%29)

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: MatthTheGeek on May 03, 2011, 11:16:58 am

Also, it's not like if they asked nicely ;p

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: Destiny on May 03, 2011, 11:27:40 am

Snap, should've thought of that.

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: Shivan Hunter on May 03, 2011, 11:56:08 am

As has been said many times, they did originally intend to spread their forces throughout the system and open with negotiations. When that failed, they would cripple the UEF forces from the inside out with minimal bloodshed, having taken up positions in strategic locations.

Two things happened as a direct result of the Vishnan intervention: 1) The forces arrived late in Sol, giving the UEF time to prepare after (IIRC) detecting unusual subspace activity at the newly-reestablished Sol gate, and 2) The ordeal suffered by everyone in the fleet, especially meeting the Sanctuary, convinced some of them that they couldn't wage a war against their own people. Admiral Bei and Captain Bei's wing defected outright, as did the Sanctuary (obviously) and IIRC that one Anemoi, and a bunch of other ships were crippled as defectors fought against GTVA loyalists.

[EDIT] I got some of this right and some of it wrong but read "The Reunion" in the species.tbl it says everything

Title: Re: Soooo good.
Post by: MatthTheGeek on May 03, 2011, 12:05:50 pm

Captain obvious strikes again ?

We were just being ironic, ya know.