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Modding, Mission Design, and Coding => The Modding Workshop => Topic started by: CmdKewin on May 13, 2002, 02:24:17 pm
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(http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/sortafast/Spacecraft/bricriu/bricriu01.jpg)
that's what I call a detailed ship.... (check here for more... http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=3442 (http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=3442) )
ot this one...
(http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/jpalmer/Bardiel/a.jpg)
(http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=7527 (http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=7527) )...
if I only where a good modeller...
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So use a virtual Lego modeler. :) There are some. (Think MLCad is one.)
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w00t! these are pretty cool. Especially the second one.
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Heh - lovely!
I do that sort of thing, however I don't have as many bricks.......let alone the right colours!!
(http://www.boomspeed.com/killfrenzy/SenshiClassCruiser.jpg)
Okay, so that's not the best photo in the world, but I loved the design. See how many influences you can spot!!
BTW, the ship is a Venusian Senshi class Heavy Cruiser, and here are the tech specs:
CLASS NAME Senshi Class CA
ARMAMENT Two LVen Beam cannons, four SVen Beam cannons, six forward Fusion Torpedo tubes, twelve Anti-Fighter Beam cannons, ten Flak turrets, twenty Medium Laser turrets, twenty Light Laser turrets
PROPULSION Four GFS ‘Nebula JS-87’ Sublight Engines, two Jump drives
MISC Six JS-16 Shield arrays, Fighterbay
The ship I put together is the VS Aino Minako. She features in a sci-fi story I'm writing! :)
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:wtf: That Aino Minako looked like a cruise ship for a bit there. :D
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Bah! Easy. I once made an entire Megatron-Blacktron battle scene with land-mines, tanks, mortar cannon, bunkers and attack skimmers.
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Originally posted by EdrickV
:wtf: That Aino Minako looked like a cruise ship for a bit there. :D
You'd soon change your tune whilst you watch her take out a Sathanas!! :D:D
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Meh.
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Originally posted by EdrickV
So use a virtual Lego modeler. :) There are some. (Think MLCad is one.)
yep :) i knew about them (LeoCad is the second one...). :D But i still prefer real modelling... (because at virtual one, I pretty suck...)
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I've never heard of these........
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so, here we go. more :D man, details seem to obsess this guys...
(http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/DanJassim/StarshipGibraltar/1_gibraltar.jpg)
(http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/DanJassim/Carrier/aa_carrier-dan.jpg)
(http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/DanJassim/StarshipRegent/regent-2.jpg)
(http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/septenemae/infinity/newer/aftview.jpg)
this one isn't so beatifull, but pretty detailed... look at his reactor core... I bet it can pull out far more energy than a vasudan one :D
(http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/septenemae/infinity/10.gif)
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These guys have far too much time on their hands!
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Now THAT'S impressive, if depressing...
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i have 2 things to say
1 - I W A N T O N E
2 - Some one make them in fs2
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The poly count for some of them would be through the roof if modelled.....
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Hey, I do stuff like this all the time, except in Technic. :D (not very good with Space) I'm still working on that "ATCR: Second Generation" model; I have not gotten much time to work on it recently, but the last exam is tomorrow, so I should then be able to complete it quickly. ;)
Anyone seen Dennis Bosman's mobile crane model? At a length of two meters and a crane than can extend to four meters, this thing is simply GIGANTIC. (no kidding here ;)) I would have posted a link but I can't remember the site address right now. :p Even with my big Technic collection, I definitely would not have the pieces to do something like that. How he was able to stabilize the weight properly for such an enormous model or use only two motors (and these are the old weak 12V ones) to move the turntable and crane boom, which in total must weigh as much my 21-inch monitor, is well beyond me.
However, there is one trend that I have been seeing in most Technic models that annoys me a bit: this kind of stud-mania that seems to abound in most models, where people simply use stacks upon stacks of conventional bricks and plates. This is perfectly fine for standard Lego Space/Town/Train/ModelTeam/etc. models, but it just does not work for Technic; you need added stability by using perpendicular beam/friction peg networks, or even better, the use the newer specialized pieces for stability. John Barnes made a really nice tractor model that did not have this problem, as it made great use of the new pieces; it looked good, was very strong while still fairly lightweight, and of course, had good functionality. ;) My own project is not nearly as good as that, but I'm trying to put in lots of functions (12 so far :D) while still avoiding the stud-madness syndrome. :p :D
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SAWEET MERCIFUL CRAP!
Too much time I tells ya... waaaayyy too much....
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Too much time??? HA, not enough time if you ask me!
I do the computer modeling, with MLcad.
and you think those are big, check this one out, by me of course. :)
(http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Corhellion/ITA-Ships/Flagship/cerberus_ita_flagship.jpg)
The Cerberus ITA Flagship, 106 studs long (about 1060 metres long, so it's not FS2 size, so what) armed to the TEETH, this thing makes the Collosuss look like a practice target (woops, already is, if you're a Sath :lol: )
It's what some people call "microfig", that's what scale I use. damn useful if you don't have the pieces, or the time, or the minifigs.
and the best thing is that I built it in (and get this) 4 hours!!! not kidding!!
well, better get off to bed
Cya
Corhellion
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That's the great thing about MLCad. Anyone can make models in it.
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Where can I get MLCad?
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An unfinished version of my Technic model can be seen here; these pictures are several months out of date, but I wanted to get a few shots of the interior that would be covered up when the thing was finished. (I will take another batch of photographs when the model is complete)
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=10501
I like both MLCad and LeoCad; the former has more space parts and the latter has more technic parts. ;)
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Bah........ you're making me depressed about being too old to play with Lego, now. Not using any of that LegoCad pish....where's the fun in that?
I'm impressed they managed to get all those same coloured bricks, though.
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Originally posted by aldo_14
Bah........ you're making me depressed about being too old to play with Lego, now.
You're never too old to play with Legos. :) (Now Duplo is another story.) Tempted to dig up some of my Lego ships and try modeling them in Wings3D.
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Originally posted by EdrickV
You're never too old to play with Legos. :) (Now Duplo is another story.) Tempted to dig up some of my Lego ships and try modeling them in Wings3D.
Duplo is safer when drunk :D
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Originally posted by Killfrenzy
The poly count for some of them would be through the roof if modelled.....
hi-poly... *drool*
Really some of these are great. :yes:
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Looking at those pictures reminds me of the good old days...
I used to make gigantic starships (from Lego of course), and put them on a small pole in the garden and then simulate a meteor shower (with rocks)...lost a lot of Lego's that way...But it sure was fun.
MLCad you say? I have to give it a try!
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ok... it nothing to do with space ships.... but it's HUUUGE! :O
(http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/steini/station/200205a.jpg) http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=4149 (http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=4149)
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Originally posted EdrickV :
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Originally posted by aldo_14
Bah........ you're making me depressed about being too old to play with Lego, now.
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You're never too old to play with Legos. (Now Duplo is another story.) Tempted to dig up some of my Lego ships and try modeling them in Wings3D
true :) At an age of 23, I still found LEGO amusing (yes... even DUPLO ;) )
and speaking of MLCad....
(http://mypage.bluewin.ch/p98/First.jpg) unfinished one...
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and have a look here too... http://www.oklahoma.net/~jpalmer/GS/ (http://www.oklahoma.net/~jpalmer/GS/)
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I'll be playing with my Legos, especially Technic, until, as the saying goes "the bricks are pried out from my cold, dead hands." :D
Ah, I found the link to that crane I mentioned earlier. Remember that, unlike the other Lego themes, Technic models are fully functional and work just like the real things, with compunded mechanical gear-trains, pneumatic control switches, closed-input motors, etc. ;) I can see some flaws in this one; the stud-mania has taken over the whole model, making it heavier and less stable, but just look at how realistic it looks, and more importantly, the sheer size of the thing!
(http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Legotrucks/web/Lego/Machinery/b04f07.jpg)
(http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Legotrucks/web/Lego/Machinery/b04f28.jpg)
(http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Legotrucks/web/Lego/Machinery/b04f47.jpg)
(http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Legotrucks/web/Lego/Machinery/b04f48.jpg)
This was the only one I have seen yet that really had my jaw drop. Go here for more information: http://www.legotrucks.com/dennisbosman/cmno04.html
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[glow=brown]HOLY ****!!!! [/glow]
That thing is humongous (sp?).
:jaw: isn't enough to describe that!!!
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As some of you may have noticed, I'm not much for graphical smilies. That being said...
:jaw:
--TurboNed
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WOW! :D 3.6 m high....
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:jaw: Amazing!
Some people really can do something with legos. :nod::yes:
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I always have trouble with finding the right colour bricks. It's a real kick in the teeth to have a huge, glowing, blue space-ship and only have a few ****ty red bricks to finish off some vital part.
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Grrr, i so envy these people. I wish i had the time, money, even willpower to build one just a quarter that size. Sadly i have to go to school, and lego in the UK costs its weight in gold.
The tallest thing i ever built was a tower about 2m high. It was just brick upon brick, and it was pretty thin, so it had guidwires to hold it up.
On Orion would be easy-ish to make in lego, since its not very round.
Oh well. :(
pete
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Originally posted by Killfrenzy
Where can I get MLCad?
Here http://www.lm-software.com/mlcad/
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I always have trouble with finding the right colour bricks. It's a real kick in the teeth to have a huge, glowing, blue space-ship and only have a few ****ty red bricks to finish off some vital part.
Surprisingly, this tends to be less of a problem for me, as most of the Technic sets use at least some gray and black for the exterior. ;)
What most of these people do, however, is not to buy lots of actual sets, but order thousands of identical parts in bulk directly from Lego. (they offer such a service for certain parts)
Grrr, i so envy these people. I wish i had the time, money, even willpower to build one just a quarter that size. Sadly i have to go to school, and lego in the UK costs its weight in gold.
Those are the same problems for me; I can create medium-sized Technic stuff (in the 1-1.5m range), but I don't have the money for the pieces or time to build these huge models. :( However, once I get a stable job and start earning an income, that will change quickly... ;7
Now that the exams are over, I am going to go full-force on my ATCR2 model; should hopefully have it finished sometime soon. It will not be that big, but the functionality should make up for that. ;)
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Color doesn't matter- if you really can't see past it, spray-paint the thing. I've never had a problem, and my Lego set's mostly in red, yellow, and blue while all the cool stuff is red, gray, and black.
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you have seen nothing until you have been to LEGOLAND.
they even have the mount rushmore in scaling of course but it is still higher then 6 meters.
and a full sized car built entirely of lego blocks.
hmm, guees where I live :D, about 70 kms from LEGOLAND, but then i would get the "RETURN to battlefield pilot", or suffer the penalty :D
www.legoland.dk
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about 70 kms from LEGOLAND
:mad: :D You lucky guy; the only place that I would be willing to leave my house to go see would be one of the LEGOLANDs. There is one in the US as well, but it directly on the opposite side of the country from where I live. :p
and a full sized car built entirely of lego blocks.
I have heard that one guy actually built a full-sized version of the 8458 Silver Champion model (an official set) which, except for the wheels, was built entirely out of Technic pieces, but I have never seen any pictures of this.
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I've seen entire Lego cities, with bridges, rivers, hotels, and everyting else and star wars characters (like Darth Vader).
Cool!:cool:
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Yeah, that's what those LEGOLAND places are like, from the pictures I have seen. Some people have actually built smaller version of those lego cities (smaller, but still a good 6m by 6m :p) right in their homes. :D
I think the Star Wars sets include minifig versions of all the characters from the movies. I have mostly been following the progress of Technic and Mindstorms for the last several years. ;)
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Well Denmark is a small Country.
While still standing in Denmark, two people could only be maximum 400 kms from each other.
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SH1TE!!!! THOSE ARE SWEET!!!!!!
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I've got Lego from back when the mens legs didn't move and the most advanced piece was a slanty roof tile.
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Thanks, Fozzy!
BTW - how do you rotate a piece so it lies at 45 degrees to the horizontal?
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Does anyone else here have the lego mindstorms? I got it last year and they are really awesome :D
Look at these things:
A fully functional coke machine:
(http://mindstorms.lego.com/uploads//63735image11.gif)
A walking robot:
(http://mindstorms.lego.com/uploads//16707AECF0D4ADB20E4D85241CE4AE33image3.jpg)
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A walking robot, that was my ultimate lego dream...
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One guy made a robot that could climb up smooth surfaces, such as windows, using the old one-way pneumatics and suction cups. ;)
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I played around with one of those kits a while back...
Friggin' awesome. I built something unrecongizable and completely useless that worked in about half an hour flat- that's only a little longer than it takes me on a computer!:D
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Where can I get MLCad?
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I would be easy to break into that coke machine. Mmmmmm Coke. (said like Homer Simpson) Yum.
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Originally posted by hotsnoj
I would be easy to break into that coke machine. Mmmmmm Coke. (said like Homer Simpson) Yum.
I'll bet that's exactly what the six americans killed by coke machines every year think :D
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Originally posted by karajorma
I'll bet that's exactly what the six americans killed by coke machines every year think :D
You mean I might die from Coke!? Say it ain't so! BTW how would you keep the drinks cold?
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Originally posted by hotsnoj
You mean I might die from Coke!? Say it ain't so! BTW how would you keep the drinks cold?
Basically they try to tip it over to get free coke but forget how heavy the machine is and get squashed!
I suppose a lego machine might be lighter (then again maybe not!)
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You know, I keep hearing all this garbage about Americans who get drunk stupid and act like idiots, and I'm getting sick of it. Beer for a good number of the people I meet here is completely unnecessary.
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well for the most parts americans tends to rubb their "We are better than you and your stenkin country" attitude way to often even if they dont do it on purpouse or mena to rub it in it happens and it happens alot, I dont blame americans for this but this is what the US goverment tell the americna people troughout their entire years of school edjucation...
aswell is the tendancy to keep foreingers point of view as far away from american as possible...
example Sept 11... most Americans where shocked to relize that people hated americans enough to ram planes into their buildings...
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Originally posted by Stryke 9
Beer for a good number of the people I meet here is completely unnecessary.
Do they prefer spirits?
Great thing aobut living in the UK is that u dont have to be 18 (or even 21) to drink. You just need to be 18 to buy alchohol.
This has gone OT. Get back to Lego.
pete
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after some days of practice with MLCad...
(http://mypage.bluewin.ch/p98/First.jpg) (http://mypage.bluewin.ch/p98/Second.jpg)
(http://mypage.bluewin.ch/p98/Third.jpg)
(http://mypage.bluewin.ch/p98/Fleet.jpg)
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Here's my initial entry:
(http://www.boomspeed.com/killfrenzy/Boxart.jpg)
And I STILL want to know how to get something to lie at 45 degrees to the horizontal.
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Your answer Killfrenzy:
somewhere on one of the tool bars are three (3) "grid" icons, one is big, one is medium, the other is small. click the medium or middle icon.
there is a rotation icon somewhere else on the tool bars, click the one you want, and it will rotate 45' only.
problem solved.
oh, and go here if you wanna join the www.lugnet.com lego forums (yes lego has forums)
anyway
Cya
Cor, I'm an AFOL (Adult Fan Of Lego)
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Thanks!
Note to self: Play around with the grid settings! :D:D
NOW I can make something really cool!! :devilidea
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:) Another day, another model... This time from a ship I actually built, before modelling it.
(http://mypage.bluewin.ch/p98/Dest.jpg)
[EDIT] I just noticed some parts are not well connected... man... back to work.[EDIT]
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I need to see if I can model that Technic truck of mine in MLCad or LeoCad just for fun. Although it would probably take forever considering the number of pieces involved... :p :D
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Number of pieces?
pffff, the Cerberus (that's my BIG ship) is 108 studs long and has almost 900 pieces. Here is the link: http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=17330
and it took only about 6 hours tops to finish it all! beat that! or try too :) ;7
Anyways
Cya
Cor
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Hehe!
Now for my next ship!! The Senshi class Heavy Cruiser!!:D:D
(http://www.boomspeed.com/killfrenzy/VenusianSenshiCA.JPG)
She can take down a Sathanas on her own!
Just wait until the BIG ships show up! :D:D
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now if only I could make this stupid Leocad to work, whats better MClad or leoclad?
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MLCad :) IMO, obviously.
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I like MLCad for Space stuff and LeoCad for Technic stuff due to the piece selections. ;)
Number of pieces?
pffff, the Cerberus (that's my BIG ship) is 108 studs long and has almost 900 pieces.
:D Let's see what sets I have used so far in the construction of this thing:
8459 Pneumatic Front-End Loader (582 pieces)
8462 Super Tow Truck (773 pieces)
8480 Space Shuttle (1366 pieces)
8485 Control Center II (1063 pieces)
8857 Street Chopper (457 pieces)
8865 Auto Chassis (898 pieces)
8868 Airtech Claw Rig (957 pieces)
8880 Super Car (1343 pieces)
(man I can't believe I have actually memorized those piece counts :rolleyes: :p)
I have not used up all of the pieces obviously, but six or seven other sets were also partially used to make the things, evening out the numbers. That unfortunately amounts to a lot of pieces. :p :D
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BAH! Don't model in MLCad! model your legos in Truespace or Lightwave and THEN build your model! :lol:
I don't actually recommend this. You wouldn't believe the sort of frustration this will cause you. :D
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Originally posted by mikhael
BAH! Don't model in MLCad! model your legos in Truespace or Lightwave and THEN build your model! :lol:
yea... sure.... :D
back to work. Here is my latest one ;)
3/4 Front View
(http://mypage.bluewin.ch/p98/Carrier.jpg)
3/4 Rear View
(http://mypage.bluewin.ch/p98/Carrier2.jpg)
Forward Hangar Bay
(http://mypage.bluewin.ch/p98/Carrier3.jpg)
Rear Hangar Bay
(http://mypage.bluewin.ch/p98/Carrier4.jpg)
Ships actually land on the rear one and take off in the forward one... clever, eh? :D I'm really satisfied how it turned out :) (real model is about 20 cm long...)
next project... my favourite FS ship... GTD Orion Class. Stay tuned ;)
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So, do the people who work at Lego and design the kits use something like this to help them, or are they just geniuses at lego design?
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Nope. According the Lego book I have, they draw them out on paper, determine what new pieces are needed, prototype the new pieces and then they play with actual bricks to build the model to approximate the drawing.
Has anyone else done any lego modelling in Lightwave or Max?
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I tend to draw lots of schematic diagrams before starting to build a model as well. ;)
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okey the cunfusing MClad it is, and now to build by greatest work in RL(tm) made, and then on to new ships!
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Originally posted by mikhael
Has anyone else done any lego modelling in Lightwave or Max?
no :) but before modelling it in MLCad, it build them ( RL(tm) ) :)
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IMO. Lego are great to develop your 3d perception of objects. Being able to see the sides you cannot see. Making it symmetric etc. I was astonished to hear people say I was good at making things in Lego because i could make an object symmetric. And the fact that I was able to rebuild anything I saw, if I had the correct bricks.
I even build (before the time of technic) transformers that could actually transform from a robot to some sort of vehicle and was encouraged to send pictures of my LEGO makings and was told that it was awesome work by a LEGO letter and a LEGO representative.
But they could not use my work for a production line it, as it would be not legal since I was actually building transformers that where copyrighted by someone else. Something I did not understand then as I was 10-11 years old.
Back then I was hospitalized because of a Car accident the made me a hospital patient for 4 months.
During that time I build all of these things, so 3d modeling fells natural to me.
The good part is that the LEGO representative donated 1000 kroner (Danish currency). Or (1000/7) = 137 US$, to the hospitals children division, in which I was not, I was to old for that division for some reason.
And me LEGO gave a 500-kr check to spend on what ever I liked.
(can’t remember what I used it for).
That was a lot of money back in 1984-85
So again, in my opinion actually playing with Lego will enhance you 3 dimensional perception,
But playing with it on a screen, I’m not so sure.
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Lego is definately responsible for my love of 3d stuff, and why I have such good spatial perception. Lego is how I learned 3d modelling in the first place. When I wanted to learn to put things together in Truespace, the first thing I modelled was a 1x1 lego brick. From there, I expanded my Truespace lego collection to a very very large array of bits, including many technic pieces.
Something I worked on, but never finished, was a truespace model of my giant mech. Here's a picture of some of the leg stuff, and a picture of the legs in reality. that thing ended up so heavy that I had to use six long technic shocks along the back of the floating 'ankles' to make it stand up.
(http://404error.com/mikhael/lego/legs.jpg)
(http://404error.com/mikhael/lego/mech6.jpg)
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:yes:
I would love to have that thing, and put some IK and bones on it in 3d max. never used Truespace for bones and IK. so I would not dare!
:yes:
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WOW!:wtf:
Nice, very nice.
I wish I had pics of some of the stufff I made....
I allso made mechs and gigantic robots, and once I made an F-14 with expandable wings and all the extras...
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I never actually did get the concept of walking stuff in legos. I was drawn more towards creating miniatures with them and playing out epic battles...
for example, did you know that if you take the heads and hands off of a lego guy, he looks remarkably like a mech? and you can add some really cool looking stuff to it if you get creative...
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I am a total Lego Technic fanatic and have been so for the last 12 years, but I somehow do not find any of the user interfaces for the 3D programs out there all that "natural." I guess it's just a matter of getting used to them. For now, I will stick to my 3D surface graphs. :D (anyone seen some spherical graphs like r=cos(q+f) ? they really play with your 3D perception. :D)
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http://www.oklahoma.net/~jpalmer/GS/ (http://www.oklahoma.net/~jpalmer/GS/)
I'll show you my Dropship i made a few days ago. Not great because i dont have enough parts etc.
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Whoa! Good find Z.
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Originally posted by mikhael
Lego is definately responsible for my love of 3d stuff, and why I have such good spatial perception. Lego is how I learned 3d modelling in the first place. When I wanted to learn to put things together in Truespace, the first thing I modelled was a 1x1 lego brick. From there, I expanded my Truespace lego collection to a very very large array of bits, including many technic pieces.
Something I worked on, but never finished, was a truespace model of my giant mech. Here's a picture of some of the leg stuff, and a picture of the legs in reality. that thing ended up so heavy that I had to use six long technic shocks along the back of the floating 'ankles' to make it stand up.
*snip*
Neat.
I made a walker thingie once - like in aliens. 'cept it had springs, but it more 'bounced' than walked. i think I managed to get it to actually stand upright on 2 legs, once, though ;)
Damn...I really miss being 12 now :)
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Why would you want to model lego in Lightwave, TS or 3DS?
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WHERE CAN I GET MLCAD?
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HERE!![/color] (http://www.lm-software.com/mlcad/)
:D:D
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Thank You!!
Learn the tags. Be cool. :D:D
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Or just annoying! :D:D
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Originally posted by Killfrenzy
Or just annoying! :D:D
Annoying because you don't like it or annoying because I put the code inside a quote so you couldn't copy/get a look at it?
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No, annoying if you take up too much room!:D:D:D
And I know how to play with codes, thank you! :p
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Go on then. Wingdings, in red, with a green glow.
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MLcad is stupid, the installation method is over complicated.
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I've always wanted to build a walking robot with my mindstorms, but I never could figure out how. I have enough trouble building a moving vehicle with wheels that won't fall apart within a few minutes.
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I actually found it fairly easy to do; slightly more complicated than a wheeled or tracked unit, but all you basically have to do is add in reciprocating cams with lever-like attachments on them that lead to the legs. There are a number of official models where this is done, most notably with the RIS Ultimate Builder addon and the Mindstorms DSDK.
There is actually another way of building a walker using pneumatic pistons along with a pneumatic control circuit, which provides much higher forces (good for moving heavy stuff), but is somewhat complicated to get right. It's the Technic guy's way of doing it, though. :D :D
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I like Symbol better. :D
[glow=blue][color=00FFFF]¶y/¶x=p/4 ¦(w,g)[/color][/glow]
:D
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Originally posted by an0n
Go on then. Wingdings, in red, with a green glow.
If you insist:
[GLOW=green]Shut up![/color][/GLOW]
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Originally posted by CP5670
There is actually another way of building a walker using pneumatic pistons along with a pneumatic control circuit, which provides much higher forces (good for moving heavy stuff), but is somewhat complicated to get right. It's the Technic guy's way of doing it, though. :D :D
I've wanted to try one with pneumatics but I don't know where to find the parts :( Do you have to order them off the lego website?
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The way I acquired all of my pneumatic stuff was through the various Technic sets released over the years, but you could order the parts individually as well. I would recommend getting a Technic Pneumatic Pack set (to get some special parts like the airtank and the compressor pump), and then buying some extra individual valves and pistons from Pitsco/Dacta or Bricklink.
To make a properly moving walker you would most likely need a looping control circuit to coordinate the leg movements, which tend to use up quite a few pistons.
BTW if you are comfortable with eBay and want an official pneumatic model, stop reading this and go look for an 8868 Airtech Claw Rig set. :D (it was released in 1992 and discontinued in 1995; totally awesome set)
The old pre-1989 single-acting pneumatic pieces are much harder to acquire individually these days, but you can probably find sets on Bricklink or eBay that use these pieces; I was able to score an 8851 Excavator recently off Brickbay without having to look around much. The double-acting pneumatic system is better suited to most tasks due to its higher force and general reliability, although some things can only be done with the old pneumatics. (i.e. the window walker robot)
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omg, man how much do u spend on legos!?!?!?! And do u play with those big ships? I know i would.:rolleyes:
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I have around $4000 in Lego Technic sets; I am a total Lego nut. :D Although I can't imagine how much some of those guys who build these huge 2m models must have spent to get all those pieces... :p
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uh...you won't believe me if I told you, but there is a guy who bought....I think 80 sets of the Mos Espa Pod Race (3 racer set, about $120 each) , I'm trying to find it in Brickshelf.com....
Yep, found it, this is the racer sets he bought...and it's 48 not 80 :p
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=3148
and here is his other purchases:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=3145
that might give you an idea to how much money these guys make and spend (no I don't spend that much, don't got the money)
Cya
Cor
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LOL, I wonder why he bought all of those, unless he is planning to make something big using all the pieces...
There was one guy I talked to on eBay who was selling some 8880 Super Car sets; as soon as one ended, I saw him putting up another, so after a while I asked him how many he had just out of curiosity. He said that he had bought some 30 or so of them when the set originally came out in 1994. :D (the original price was $140, but sealed set prices on eBay can go as high as $250 these days) I got one of my two copies from this guy.
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Aldo, why would you need to be 12 to play with legos? I'm just shy of 30 and I play with legos.
I have no idea how much I've spent on legos over the years, but I could tell you the weight from the last time I shipped them. ;) Its just a little under 450lb. :lol:
Whomever asked why you would want to model legos in 3d? First of all, Legos are mathematically precise. That makes them easy to model in 3d if you have half a brain. Second, because no matter how hard you try, no matter how hard you search, you might not every really run across an original Lego Space Galaxy Commander (the sexiest lego spaceship EVAR). Third, and finally, when I started with 3d stuff, MLCad, LegoCAD, etc didn't exist. The best you could get were parts libraries for POVRAY. Sorry, pass. Truespace, whilst heavily denigrated on this site, rocks solid for building 3d legos and it certainly beats the pants off of POVRAY for making renders (perhaps not render wise, but easy of use wise).
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I'm 15.71 so I am not too old just yet, but I will probably be playing with these things for the rest of my life. :D