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Title: Zods, yay or nay
Post by: Colonol Dekker on May 16, 2011, 11:18:39 am
I see a few Vasudan rights sigs out there. I just wondered how the community is divided on the subject.....

Remember the 14 year war is all i'll say, that and  :headz:
Title: Re: Zods, yay or nay
Post by: The E on May 16, 2011, 11:19:28 am
Only living Zods are good Zods.
Title: Re: Zods, yay or nay
Post by: Colonol Dekker on May 16, 2011, 11:21:29 am
Not if you're UEF. :nervous:

can't believe i'm using buntu as justification for my hate of zods.
Title: Re: Zods, yay or nay
Post by: The E on May 16, 2011, 11:22:39 am
How does that follow?
Title: Re: Zods, yay or nay
Post by: MatthTheGeek on May 16, 2011, 11:25:17 am
Last time I checked, the UEF and the Zods were pretty close to become allied. It's just that Steele risked his career and the stability of the whole GTVA to break it up.
Title: Re: Zods, yay or nay
Post by: Colonol Dekker on May 16, 2011, 11:26:34 am
Because they're on the warpath now. (not all of us are privvy to WIH2 plot)  ;7

Anyhoo i digest (deliberate) any arguements for xenophobia or against should be listed here. I for one am bitter after playing FS1 repeatedly til FS2 came out and the hate is engrained in me for life.

Also they smell like seawater which makes me wretch.
Title: Re: Zods, yay or nay
Post by: Rodo on May 16, 2011, 11:27:35 am
zods have funny accent, I say let them swim around.
Title: Re: Zods, yay or nay
Post by: MatthTheGeek on May 16, 2011, 11:28:21 am
Zods are the only thing that has kept humanity alive. Which it didn't really deserved in the first place. We should all worship the Zods.
Title: Re: Zods, yay or nay
Post by: Kolgena on May 16, 2011, 11:28:34 am
I thought you fight the zods for only like 5 missions before the Shivans show up and you ally. Then again, I played port like, once.
Title: Re: Zods, yay or nay
Post by: Snail on May 16, 2011, 11:36:43 am
I thought you fight the zods for only like 5 missions before the Shivans show up and you ally. Then again, I played port like, once.
Hammer of Light nutjobbies too.
Title: Re: Zods, yay or nay
Post by: headdie on May 16, 2011, 11:41:58 am
I thought you fight the zods for only like 5 missions before the Shivans show up and you ally. Then again, I played port like, once.
Hammer of Light nutjobbies too.

HoL is cool, for target practice

Yay to the Zods, we wouldn't have the Deimos, Ulysses, Sol and a load of other stuff if it wasn't for them
Title: Re: Zods, yay or nay
Post by: Snail on May 16, 2011, 11:44:03 am
We don't have Sol.
Title: Re: Zods, yay or nay
Post by: headdie on May 16, 2011, 11:44:57 am
No but if it wasn't for Zods we wouldn't have found out how to track the Lucifer in subspace so earth would be toast
Title: Re: Zods, yay or nay
Post by: MatthTheGeek on May 16, 2011, 11:51:49 am
if it wasn't for the Zods, we would be in the situation of the AoA alternate universe.
Title: Re: Zods, yay or nay
Post by: Colonol Dekker on May 16, 2011, 11:58:03 am
I stand by my belief. They served their porpoise. ;7


--- 5 Ayes! :yes:
Title: Re: Zods, yay or nay
Post by: Deadly in a Shadow on May 16, 2011, 12:05:21 pm
Yell "yay" to ze zods. Khonsu is the only one in BP who is preparing for the apocalypse.
Title: Re: Zods, yay or nay
Post by: MatthTheGeek on May 16, 2011, 12:07:35 pm
Served their purpose ? You think the Zods are useless ? They're still keeping the GTVA economically viable all by themselves.
Title: Re: Zods, yay or nay
Post by: Rodo on May 16, 2011, 12:07:52 pm
Yell "yay" to ze zods. Khonsu is the only one in BP who is preparing for the apocalypse.

You mean nay then, right?
Title: Re: Zods, yay or nay
Post by: Destiny on May 16, 2011, 12:13:40 pm
Without the Vasudans we would not have anti-fighter TerSlashes mounted on the Deimos corvettes. So bub bub bub etc.
Title: Re: Zods, yay or nay
Post by: Colonol Dekker on May 16, 2011, 12:21:37 pm
Need moar haters please :nervous:
Title: Re: Zods, yay or nay
Post by: SpardaSon21 on May 16, 2011, 12:25:25 pm
Death to the foul headhunting Zods!
Title: Re: Zods, yay or nay
Post by: Drogoth on May 16, 2011, 12:28:26 pm
I disagree that Terrans 'didn't deserve' help against the Shivans, let's get serious that smacks of PETA 'humans are mean cruel people that kill puppies' mentality. However, I think the Zods are important valuable allies and they help maintain the strength of the GTVA. When the Terrans eventually get their house in order (when the Sol gate opens? Or just general recovery - things WILL stabalize) we'll be equal partners rather then dragging on the alliance - and for those who point to the Zods holding up the alliance I'll remind you of the way the GTA sheltered and helped the Vasudans, assisting their resettlement after the eradication of Vasuda Prime. Tables turn quickly.

Once again though, all things considered, we would certainly NOT be better off without them... but they would not be better off without us.
Title: Re: Zods, yay or nay
Post by: Colonol Dekker on May 16, 2011, 12:31:42 pm
So developing beams jointly with us was their way of earning their keep? I agree wholeheartedly.  ;)
Title: Re: Zods, yay or nay
Post by: MatthTheGeek on May 16, 2011, 12:41:47 pm
and for those who point to the Zods holding up the alliance I'll remind you of the way the GTA sheltered and helped the Vasudans, assisting their resettlement after the eradication of Vasuda Prime. Tables turn quickly.
Last time I checked, the Terrans were too busy trying to save own their home system, and then waging civil war, to help the Zods much.
Title: Re: Zods, yay or nay
Post by: Nohiki on May 16, 2011, 12:56:11 pm
*aehm* While i stress that they have the same basic rights as humans ,to answer the questions in the poll: I don't think that bi-racial nation is good. If they remained two different "countries", it would be much better - NTF wouldnt have been created (or at least not for the fake reason it was), and i think that it would have positive impact on trade as well. AKA: Aye!
Title: Re: Zods, yay or nay
Post by: Spoon on May 16, 2011, 01:02:34 pm
 :headz: :headz: :headz: :headz: :headz: :headz: :headz: :headz: :headz: :headz: :headz: :headz:
Bub bub bub bup bup
Title: Re: Zods, yay or nay
Post by: 0rph3u5 on May 16, 2011, 01:19:25 pm
One of my fiction pieces lying around says:
"... the Vasudans and Terrans can play their games of chess or whatever on eye level because we are sitting on the same table. But the Shivans aren't even in the room with us, not even in the same building, the same planet or even same universe...."

So more love for our antropomorphized alien friends - they make a good plot device!
Title: Re: Zods, yay or nay
Post by: Drogoth on May 16, 2011, 01:37:43 pm
and for those who point to the Zods holding up the alliance I'll remind you of the way the GTA sheltered and helped the Vasudans, assisting their resettlement after the eradication of Vasuda Prime. Tables turn quickly.
Last time I checked, the Terrans were too busy trying to save own their home system, and then waging civil war, to help the Zods much.

I distinctly remember flying around a three jump node nexus protecting Vasudan evac transports as well as Terran/Vasudan reinforcements heading to Vasuda. I also remember the Galatea dying while protecting the Deneb - Vasuda Jump node. If we had just buggered off and helped only ourselves after the fall of Vasuda then the Vasudans would not have survived.
Title: Re: Zods, yay or nay
Post by: Mobius on May 16, 2011, 01:44:39 pm
Voted NAY! :p
Title: Re: Zods, yay or nay
Post by: MatthTheGeek on May 16, 2011, 01:52:26 pm
I distinctly remember flying around a three jump node nexus protecting Vasudan evac transports as well as Terran/Vasudan reinforcements heading to Vasuda. I also remember the Galatea dying while protecting the Deneb - Vasuda Jump node. If we had just buggered off and helped only ourselves after the fall of Vasuda then the Vasudans would not have survived.

We covered em in their immediate retreat, yeah. Afterwards, we pretty much let them rot there when it become obvious that the Lucy was heading toward Sol. And again, while we were busy waging puny civil wars, the Zods were busy having an incredibly swift economical rebirth.
Title: Re: Zods, yay or nay
Post by: JCDNWarrior on May 16, 2011, 02:03:27 pm
Zods are awesome. Many reasons why we owe everything to them. The dualism in fighting the Shivans with the Zods is awesome too.
Title: Re: Zods, yay or nay
Post by: SypheDMar on May 16, 2011, 03:11:30 pm
I distinctly remember flying around a three jump node nexus protecting Vasudan evac transports as well as Terran/Vasudan reinforcements heading to Vasuda. I also remember the Galatea dying while protecting the Deneb - Vasuda Jump node. If we had just buggered off and helped only ourselves after the fall of Vasuda then the Vasudans would not have survived.

We covered em in their immediate retreat, yeah. Afterwards, we pretty much let them rot there when it become obvious that the Lucy was heading toward Sol. And again, while we were busy waging puny civil wars, the Zods were busy having an incredibly swift economical rebirth.
Where does it say that we were waging civil wars?

EDIT: Oh. You mean the Hades Rebellion.
Title: Re: Zods, yay or nay
Post by: PsychoLandlord on May 16, 2011, 03:33:36 pm
Voted NAY. Needz moar Zods.
Title: Re: Zods, yay or nay
Post by: Colonol Dekker on May 16, 2011, 03:39:22 pm
Where are all the AYE voters? I expect to see my sigs red line used elsewhere now I've seen the evidence :) TERRAN SUPREMACY. Because we're worth it. ;)
Title: Re: Zods, yay or nay
Post by: Retsof on May 16, 2011, 10:58:23 pm
I like any story with human alien interaction that doesn't solely involve weapons fire.  Especially when the aliens are more different than "rubber foreheads" and whatnot.  So I voted Nay.
Title: Re: Zods, yay or nay
Post by: Hades on May 17, 2011, 12:57:15 am
I like any story with human alien interaction that doesn't solely involve weapons fire.  Especially when the aliens are more different than "rubber foreheads" and whatnot.  So I voted Nay.
It wasn't solely weapon fire, if you'd do some research as to the cause of the TVW you'd know why.
Title: Re: Zods, yay or nay
Post by: MatthTheGeek on May 17, 2011, 03:05:52 am
Where does it say that we were waging civil wars?

EDIT: Oh. You mean the Hades Rebellion.

Ahem.

Quote
An ill-fated coup d'etat, orchestrated by the rogue intelligence branch of the GTA, marked the beginning of post-war factional politics. With its economy in ruins and political structures in turmoil, the Galactic Terran Alliance disintegrated into semi-autonomous regional blocs, each with its own agenda. The major entities included the Adhara Coalition, the Antares Federation, the Regulus Syndicate, and the Luyten New Alliance.
Title: Re: Zods, yay or nay
Post by: Snail on May 17, 2011, 04:23:12 am
semi-autonomous means not (necessarily) waging civil war
Title: Re: Zods, yay or nay
Post by: SypheDMar on May 17, 2011, 04:56:17 am
My thought as well. I thought of semi-autonomous like the states of America. Well, more autonomous than that but still peaceful. Douchebaggery probably present.
Title: Re: Zods, yay or nay
Post by: Snail on May 17, 2011, 06:32:21 am
I thought they'd probably protectionist and there'd be lots of trade tariffs and quotas, mostly because each of the blocs would be working for the interests of its own people. Then the GTVA comes along and at first it's like a trade organization (like the EU) but eventually it becomes the actual government (like a federation) with the signing of BETAC.