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Title: Chrome
Post by: jr2 on May 19, 2011, 08:28:41 pm
http://sixrevisions.com/infographs/browser-performance/

(http://images.sixrevisions.com/2009/10/15-03_performance_comparison_of_web_browsers_large.jpg)
Title: Re: Chrome
Post by: Shivan Hunter on May 19, 2011, 08:38:45 pm
I prefer browsers good enough to show the url bar (http://tech.slashdot.org/story/11/05/19/1518221/Google-Is-Serious-Chrome-13-Hides-URL-Bar)

also lol @ IE
Title: Re: Chrome
Post by: SirCumference on May 19, 2011, 08:45:03 pm
I used to use Chrome, but I'm an Opera fan now. I keep Chrome as a secondary browser.

All of that data is really old. Every one of those browsers has released a newer version. Multiple newer versions in some cases.
Title: Re: Chrome
Post by: Ghostavo on May 19, 2011, 08:45:48 pm
Because no new versions of all browsers were released in the past 2 years... oh wait.
Title: Re: Chrome
Post by: Klaustrophobia on May 19, 2011, 08:51:12 pm
IE is just fine.  it is noticeably faster and generally more compatible than firefox for me.  i use firefox when i want to avoid ad spam and that's about it. 

i don't care how fast their browser is, google can f**k off.
Title: Re: Chrome
Post by: SirCumference on May 19, 2011, 08:54:55 pm
IE 9 is actually pretty good. It still only scores a 95% on the Acid 3, but it's fast and has some nice features.
Title: Re: Chrome
Post by: Klaustrophobia on May 19, 2011, 08:57:47 pm
has that been officially released or is it in beta still?  windows update hasn't picked it up yet.
Title: Re: Chrome
Post by: SirCumference on May 19, 2011, 09:00:21 pm
IE 9 is official: www.microsoft.com/IE9
Title: Re: Chrome
Post by: watsisname on May 19, 2011, 09:05:43 pm
So you think your browser is better!?  THEMS IS FIGHTIN WORDS :mad:

Seriously though, despite the all-around praise for Chrome I still think I'mma stick with FF for now since I'm just so used to it and I love my add-ons and scriptblocker. :7  Plus there is a very obvious increase in speed with the newest version.  Having the tabs above the url-bar is still weird though, as is having the "open link in new tab" vs "open link in new window" positions in the right-click menu swapped.  :mad2:
Title: Re: Chrome
Post by: Nuclear1 on May 19, 2011, 09:18:09 pm
hipsters use chrome trololololol

(uses chrome)
Title: Re: Chrome
Post by: Fury on May 19, 2011, 11:21:57 pm
That graph is like seriously old. All the latest browsers should be plenty slick, including IE9 which is actually pretty good.
Title: Re: Chrome
Post by: Mongoose on May 19, 2011, 11:59:13 pm
I'd give IE9 a try if they hadn't limited it to 7. :p Even FF3 was substantially faster than IE8, in my experience.
Title: Re: Chrome
Post by: The E on May 20, 2011, 01:22:48 am
That graph is like seriously old. All the latest browsers should be plenty slick, including IE9 which is actually pretty good.

Yep. It tested Chrome version 3. Chrome is currently at version 11 (for release) and 12 (for developer builds).
Title: Re: Chrome
Post by: Fury on May 20, 2011, 01:24:03 am
13 actually, which is what I use at home and work. :p
Title: Re: Chrome
Post by: SirCumference on May 20, 2011, 02:28:16 am
I'd give IE9 a try if they hadn't limited it to 7.

I'm pretty sure IE 9 will work in Vista. XP is no longer supported though.
Title: Re: Chrome
Post by: Mongoose on May 20, 2011, 02:42:12 am
Yeah, that still doesn't help me. :p
Title: Re: Chrome
Post by: karajorma on May 20, 2011, 03:00:08 am
Old. I'm already on Firefox 4 which is supposedly much faster than 3.5
Title: Re: Chrome
Post by: BrotherBryon on May 20, 2011, 07:57:30 am
Old. I'm already on Firefox 4 which is supposedly much faster than 3.5
Not to mention buggy as hell too, Damn thing crashed so much I even stopped using it at work where it is our company's browser of choice.
Title: Re: Chrome
Post by: Topgun on May 20, 2011, 09:29:24 am
Old. I'm already on Firefox 4 which is supposedly much faster than 3.5
Not to mention buggy as hell too, Damn thing crashed so much I even stopped using it at work where it is our company's browser of choice.

I haven't had firefox crash once since 4
Title: Re: Chrome
Post by: Flipside on May 20, 2011, 09:37:24 am
I use IE for Windows Update and that's about it. Mostly I stick to Firefox, it might not be the fastest, but the day my life depends on a page loading 2ms faster will be a strange day indeed.
Title: Re: Chrome
Post by: BrotherBryon on May 20, 2011, 10:13:20 am
Old. I'm already on Firefox 4 which is supposedly much faster than 3.5
Not to mention buggy as hell too, Damn thing crashed so much I even stopped using it at work where it is our company's browser of choice.

I haven't had firefox crash once since 4

It has an issue with locking up to the point where you need to kill it in the task manager. Just about all the network engineers I work with have reported the same problem and most of them have switched back IE until FF fixes the issue.
Title: Re: Chrome
Post by: Topgun on May 20, 2011, 10:25:18 am
Old. I'm already on Firefox 4 which is supposedly much faster than 3.5
Not to mention buggy as hell too, Damn thing crashed so much I even stopped using it at work where it is our company's browser of choice.

I haven't had firefox crash once since 4

It has an issue with locking up to the point where you need to kill it in the task manager. Just about all the network engineers I work with have reported the same problem and most of them have switched back IE until FF fixes the issue.

Might be a windows only issue
Title: Re: Chrome
Post by: jr2 on May 20, 2011, 01:11:39 pm
FYI, they have AdBlock+, Flashblock, StumbleUpon, Xmarks, and a number of other good plugins for chrome.  ;)
Title: Re: Chrome
Post by: Fury on May 20, 2011, 01:31:35 pm
I have no addons, except for AdBlock which I enable only when I stumble upon a site with excessive ads.

I am of the opinion that whoever uses AdBlock on a site that has reasonable ads, is stealing. The site has to pay for the hosting and more often than not, ad revenue is the only method they have to cover these costs. The more people use adblocks, the less revenue the site makes. This may lead to site owners making loss in hosting the site, all the while popularity of the site may rise, requiring for more expensive hosting.

At that point site owner has three options. 1) Pay for hosting from his own pockets which may already be rather empty. 2) Cancel the hosting plan and bring site down. 3) Give ownership to another person, most people don't have sites you could sell for thousands let alone millions of dollars. Ownership often changes without getting a dime.

A site that has excessive ads is just abusing their audience and deserves what they're getting. But the legitimate users of ads should be let to have their ads to cover the costs.

Adblocks are evil. There are exceptions where it can be the necessary evil, but these cases shouldn't be common enough to keep adblock running all the time.
Title: Re: Chrome
Post by: SirCumference on May 20, 2011, 01:48:00 pm
I agree with Fury. AdBlock stinks. I don't mind seeing ads on a webpage; they are what make it possible for you to surf the web without having to pay for each site you visit. If there's an ad that I find particularly annoying or offensive, I nuke that particular ad with Opera's targeted content blocker, but besides that I don't mind seeing ads in return for the ability to surf the net.
Title: Re: Chrome
Post by: Sololop on May 20, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
I thought sites didn't gain any revenue from ads unless they are clicked? And given that I have never, and will never bother to click an internet banner ad or so, I don't see the point of having adblock disabled if it doesn't make a difference.
Title: Re: Chrome
Post by: Flipside on May 20, 2011, 01:56:17 pm
I don't even notice the ads any more to be honest, so I don't really worry either way.
Title: Re: Chrome
Post by: Klaustrophobia on May 20, 2011, 03:07:57 pm
i find MOST sites other than message boards abuse ads.  small, basic sites that used to just be up for funsies and had just enough ad banners to keep the site running turn into ad spamming cash cows.
Title: Re: Chrome
Post by: Fury on May 21, 2011, 01:43:10 am
I thought sites didn't gain any revenue from ads unless they are clicked? And given that I have never, and will never bother to click an internet banner ad or so, I don't see the point of having adblock disabled if it doesn't make a difference.
That is a common misconception and false. Some ads, but not all of them, do generate income by "impressions". Which basically means they generate small amount of revenue each time they are loaded, even if nobody clicks on them.
Title: Re: Chrome
Post by: Sololop on May 21, 2011, 08:20:47 am
Ok, sort of what I was expecting, just wasn't sure.
Title: Re: Chrome
Post by: Topgun on May 21, 2011, 06:48:28 pm
I block ads on most websites. I even change the channel during commercials *gasp*
Title: Re: Chrome
Post by: Sololop on May 21, 2011, 07:53:33 pm
You watch TV? I thought that form of entertainment died out a few years ago.

(Hasn't watched TV in years.)
Title: Re: Chrome
Post by: jr2 on May 21, 2011, 07:55:29 pm
Ya, I know, right?

If less ads resorted to dimming the background, moving windows across the screen, adding useless URLs to half of the text in an article, and flashing psychedelic colors that probably cause epileptic fits in some people, I might leave them on. 

Some text ads get through AdBlock... guess what?  I don't really mind.
Title: Re: Chrome
Post by: Nuke on May 22, 2011, 07:13:03 am
i dont like change so i will keep my firefox. though i do use chrome on low end hardware.
also a big thumbs down for not using firefox 4 in the benchmark, i would also have looked at memory usage.

as for ads, to hell with them. i lost my patience with add banners when they started having sound. most of the time when you use a computer you really want it to be quiet. so when some dumbass pops up and tells me i have been selected to receive a million dollars and a ferrari. needless to say it was a little more than distracting. the ads should fit the media. tv has sound and images so its ok if adds have sound (though lately i find a great many channels turn up the sound greatly on commercials so you have to ride the remote to constantly normalize your volume, i guess il just have to torrent tv shows now), radio has sound, but most of the time the internet is silent and the adds should reflect that. granted a site that plays music could do audio adds, or a site that plays videos could put tv commercials in for all i care (so lontg as they can keep the levels in tune with the content).

now the other reason i block ads on every computer in the house, is limited throughput. 512k is not suitable for loading these flash, sound, and video laden banners that have the compression turned off so as not to make the ads look bad. when you spend 15 seconds loading ads and 5 seconds loading content, that is ridiculous. ads should be size-proportional to content. having to load a 2 meg ad when looking at a 2k page should be banned. ads are far more evil that any proggie meant to block them. they have been scientifically proven to destroy minds and corrupt our children (no i will not source it), stop the ads before its too late!