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Title: New method 'confirms dark energy' - BBC
Post by: Flipside on May 20, 2011, 02:18:02 pm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-13462926

Interesting article, my only concern is that I thought it was Dark Matter that made up a lot of the missing mass, not energy, which was something seperate. Admittedly I haven't been keeping up with the latest findings, but I found the comment that energy could make up part of a volume rather weird. Maybe it's just the way the article is worded.
Title: Re: New method 'confirms dark energy' - BBC
Post by: General Battuta on May 20, 2011, 02:18:54 pm
Dark matter accounts for a small portion of the missing mass, dark energy for the overwhelming majority. They're different beasts.
Title: Re: New method 'confirms dark energy' - BBC
Post by: Flipside on May 20, 2011, 02:25:06 pm
Yup, most of my confusion comes from the very old concept that photons in particular and energy in general have no mass, which isn't strictly true. I guess I'll have to do a bit of research :)
Title: Re: New method 'confirms dark energy' - BBC
Post by: Mongoose on May 20, 2011, 03:06:57 pm
Someone brought this to my attention the other night, and I was chuckling over the typical misleading headline.  The data only "confirms" dark energy in the same sense that any positive result "confirms" a particular theoretical model.  Interesting, sure, but it's not like someone snagged a cup of the stuff. :p
Title: Re: New method 'confirms dark energy' - BBC
Post by: watsisname on May 20, 2011, 03:13:47 pm
Yep, that's basically it.  Even energy has an intrinsic "mass" to it, given by the famous equation E=mc2.

Dark matter makes up the majority of the matter in the universe (outweighing "normal" matter by about a factor of five), while dark energy makes up the majority of the total mass, and "outweighs" dark matter by almost a factor of three.

I also find this is a useful chart. :)  I think this one is using the data from WMAP.
(http://i.imgur.com/L6AtY.png)
Title: Re: New method 'confirms dark energy' - BBC
Post by: Davros on May 20, 2011, 04:52:58 pm
(http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/5841/pacmang.jpg) (http://img822.imageshack.us/i/pacmang.jpg/)
Title: Re: New method 'confirms dark energy' - BBC
Post by: Snail on May 20, 2011, 07:21:11 pm
lol
Title: Re: New method 'confirms dark energy' - BBC
Post by: watsisname on May 20, 2011, 08:52:17 pm
Hang on, are we part that resembles Pac-man or are we the other part?

:shaking:
Title: Re: New method 'confirms dark energy' - BBC
Post by: Turambar on May 21, 2011, 08:13:37 am
.03% Represent!