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Off-Topic Discussion => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: sigtau on May 22, 2011, 11:08:12 pm

Title: Operation: Red Arm
Post by: sigtau on May 22, 2011, 11:08:12 pm: http://www.operationredarm.com/secret/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJGQEygA2fQ
http://www.operationredarm.com/

Basically, I've been working on a game with a small team of developers, and I put up a semi-secret page regarding it. Those who follow IRC closely have known this for a while.

The game is essentially a third-person shooter where the player is tasked with completing objectives using tactics and critical thinking, applied by controlling a squad of up to 4 AI players, each with the loadout of your choice.

The game world is totally explorable on a per-mission basis and not limited to linear constraints.

EDIT: Donation page on Kickstarter is up. Donate even just $1 (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/wpreston/operation-red-arm) to the most important project I have ever conceived, and help it become a reality.

Any comments or concerns?
Title: Re: Operation: Red Arm
Post by: Davros on May 22, 2011, 11:41:41 pm: so is this game sort of like hidden and dangerous ?

ps: it was released for free if you dont know about it
http://www.gamershell.com/news_9714.html
Title: Re: Operation: Red Arm
Post by: Dilmah G on May 23, 2011, 07:07:19 am: Looks pretty cool to me. The squad-based shooter + non-linear theme is reminding me a lot of the first Ghost Recon, though.
Title: Re: Operation: Red Arm
Post by: Colonol Dekker on May 23, 2011, 07:09:41 am: Rainbow six was better than ghost recon :p

Sigtau, keep it going :yes:
Title: Re: Operation: Red Arm
Post by: Dilmah G on May 23, 2011, 07:19:51 am: Oh it's on now. :P

But yes, go go go sigtau, this looks good!
Title: Re: Operation: Red Arm
Post by: sigtau on May 23, 2011, 03:45:15 pm: I made that page to present to the folks at Kickstarter (http://www.kickstarter.com/) so there would at least be some info out there. Didn't want it to look like a dormant project. Hopefully I can accumulate some small donations to get this started, because I can't do this entirely on my own with my measly part-time $50/week salary.

Quote from: Dilmah G on May 23, 2011, 07:07:19 am
Looks pretty cool to me. The squad-based shooter + non-linear theme is reminding me a lot of the first Ghost Recon, though.

It was partially inspired by Rainbow Six, Ghost Recon, and even a bit of Operation Flashpoint (and no, I didn't get the "Operation" part of the name from that). I'd like to have a game that actually requires me to use my brain in order to achieve my goal, rather than to just unload 30 rounds into a stranger across the internet to achieve it, which is where this project stems from (also, my hatred of 'lone wolf' players, who pretend like their teammates are their simply to steal their kills).
Title: Re: Operation: Red Arm
Post by: sigtau on May 26, 2011, 08:57:35 pm: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/wpreston/operation-red-arm

Kickstarter page is up.

Donate any amount of money you might have extra for the most important project I've ever conceived. You won't get charged a dime unless the fundraiser is successful.

</shameless-plug>
Title: Re: Operation: Red Arm
Post by: qazwsx on May 27, 2011, 03:33:50 am: $15 Pledged :D
Title: Re: Operation: Red Arm
Post by: sigtau on May 27, 2011, 08:34:00 pm: qazwsx is an awesome person.

Likewise, so is Hades for making this gun model (an exclusive weapon just for this game):

(http://i51.tinypic.com/2q2jz45.png)
Title: Re: Operation: Red Arm
Post by: sigtau on May 30, 2011, 10:05:42 pm: I'll just leave this promo trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJGQEygA2fQ) here...
Title: Re: Operation: Red Arm
Post by: Dilmah G on May 31, 2011, 01:02:25 am: That's actually rather dope. :yes:

Spoiler:
That's also one hell of a time-lag on the memo. ;)
Title: Re: Operation: Red Arm
Post by: Scotty on May 31, 2011, 01:44:05 am: I was actually going to ask about that. :P

Spoiler:
A whole month? Sigtau, you sure you didn't mean October 1, and not November?
Title: Re: Operation: Red Arm
Post by: sigtau on May 31, 2011, 06:35:35 am: Quote from: Scotty on May 31, 2011, 01:44:05 am
Spoiler:
A whole month? Sigtau, you sure you didn't mean October 1, and not November?

Fixed. Going to put a new video involving the game itself up in either today, tomorrow, or Thursday.
Title: Re: Operation: Red Arm
Post by: Dilmah G on May 31, 2011, 06:42:47 am: Awesome. :D But seriously, you did bloody good work on that trailer!
Title: Re: Operation: Red Arm
Post by: sigtau on July 02, 2011, 09:34:49 pm: NECROTHREAD

This project is still alive, but I'm having to make a tough design choice that I might not even have an actual choice in making, but I figured it would be best to ask here.

If I take Red Arm's setting, mood, situation, storyline, soundtrack, sounds, etc. and keep it the same, while changing the game's art style, how bad of a decision would this be?

In order to retain all of the above without totally compromising the game's feel and appeal, I was thinking of using a cel-shaded art style with realistic lighting (think TF2's shader model and lighting hierarchy, with Borderlands level of detail on the models).

Advantages:
1. Simplify the dev process, and make models far cheaper to produce.
2. Give the game an extra sale gimmick. I have yet to see a 'serious' cel-shaded game on the market.

Disadvantages:
1. "Cel-shading? Must be not-serious/TF2-esque/comic-book-like. I won't waste my time buying this. *close window*"
2. The entire idea of a cel-shaded game in a serious setting may be too much of a contradiction for the art style to hold.

Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Operation: Red Arm
Post by: Scourge of Ages on July 02, 2011, 10:13:43 pm: Cell-shading could work, just add a little bit more "grit" and it'll be fine, I think. It's more than worth it if it helps the game get finished.
This thing does look interesting, and hope to see it done.
Title: Re: Operation: Red Arm
Post by: Grizzly on July 03, 2011, 10:29:26 am: I do remember some sort of comic book series that was extremely serious. REading that post of yours invokes it, I do not recall the name. I think it was called... Alfa or something. I cite it as proof that it is probably not at all a contradiction in art style if you use cell shading.
Title: Re: Operation: Red Arm
Post by: redsniper on July 03, 2011, 04:07:26 pm: OMG yes! Do it! The market is absolutely saturated with brown/beige "realistic" shooters. I would absolutely love to see a stylish but serious shooter.
Title: Re: Operation: Red Arm
Post by: Davros on July 03, 2011, 04:07:42 pm: wasnt XIII was it
(http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/6185/xiii1n.jpg) (http://img813.imageshack.us/i/xiii1n.jpg/)
Title: Re: Operation: Red Arm
Post by: sigtau on July 03, 2011, 10:40:22 pm: Quote from: Davros on July 03, 2011, 04:07:42 pm
wasnt XIII was it
(http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/6185/xiii1n.jpg) (http://img813.imageshack.us/i/xiii1n.jpg/)

A bit like that, but more detail. And no black outline on all objects. Seriously, **** the black line.

Let's say the meshes themselves are realistic, but have TF2's shader and lighting model. If you still can't envision that, imagine the meshes from Zelda: Twilight Princess with the shaders and simplified textures from Zelda: The Wind Waker, and you'd essentially have the art style I want to achieve.