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Title: Hades, learn to uvmap dammit
Post by: General Battuta on May 26, 2011, 09:26:36 am
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10:22:38   jobttuta: man, i hope hades either learns to map or gets a mapper
10:22:49   jobttuta: kid's got some talent, he should be able to go the distance with his work
10:22:58   MatthTheGeek: agreed
10:23:06   MatthTheGeek: his logistic ship is badass
10:23:25   MatthTheGeek: definitely on its way to become a classic fan-made ship
10:23:43   jobttuta: he shouldn't rely on esarai to do it
10:23:55   jobttuta: esarai's great, and part of the reason esarai's great is cause he can go all the way from mesh to uv to texture
10:24:01   jobttuta: if hades could do that too, it'd be great
10:24:45   MatthTheGeek: and I think it's moch more awarding for him to work on a ship 100% his own rather than HTLing projects where his creativity is bounded by the original retail design and criticism from members
10:24:50   MatthTheGeek: much*
10:25:00   MatthTheGeek: -awarding + rewarding
10:25:03   MatthTheGeek: sounds better

HADES LEARN TO UVMAP

it'd be chill
Title: Re: Hades, learn to uvmap dammit
Post by: -Sara- on May 26, 2011, 09:35:46 am
It's more a matter of tedious, boring, slow-paced work which despite making things so much easier for yourself (or others) when texturing, feels almost non-rewarding. Leaning to get UV mapping right (in my opinion) goes a lot faster than learning to model. It's still like having a 3-hour mise-en-place when cooking for your family, before you can finally start making a great dinner though. Some game companies hire specific freelance UV-mappers who can do the process far more rapidly to safe the other modellers a lot of trouble.
Title: Re: Hades, learn to uvmap dammit
Post by: Luis Dias on May 26, 2011, 10:13:53 am
LEAVE HADES ALOOOOOOONEEEEE
Title: Re: Hades, learn to uvmap dammit
Post by: Grizzly on May 26, 2011, 10:21:41 am
Shouldn't we keep pointless threads limited to ... ehrm...

Let's just not do them.
Title: Re: Hades, learn to uvmap dammit
Post by: General Battuta on May 26, 2011, 10:25:50 am
Shouldn't we keep pointless threads limited to ... ehrm...

Let's just not do them.

Pointless threads would be awful. Fortunately this thread has a very important point, namely encouraging a good modeler to pick up a valuable skill that'll help his models get finished. The MVPs team has been saying the same thing.

Try to keep pointless posts limited to, ehrm, let's just not do them.

We're here to cheer for Hades. hades gooooo
Title: Re: Hades, learn to uvmap dammit
Post by: Grizzly on May 26, 2011, 10:53:24 am
I do still have that nagging feeling that nothing will be accomplished with this.

Then again, I always have been a pessimist.
Title: Re: Hades, learn to uvmap dammit
Post by: General Battuta on May 26, 2011, 10:54:27 am
If Hades doesn't want to uvmap, that's cool. It would be awesome if he did, however, because most meshes get hung up at the mapping/texturing stage of the workflow.

If you don't think the man can do it, go be a pessimist somewhere else!
Title: Re: Hades, learn to uvmap dammit
Post by: pecenipicek on May 26, 2011, 10:55:12 am
I do still have that nagging feeling that nothing will be accomplished with this.

Then again, I always have been a pessimist.
its about hades after all :p
Title: Re: Hades, learn to uvmap dammit
Post by: General Battuta on May 26, 2011, 10:56:50 am
Hey, Hades picked up modeling from scratch in basically a year. He can do that, he can map, even if mapping is a ****load more dull. Guy cares about his models.
Title: Re: Hades, learn to uvmap dammit
Post by: Snail on May 26, 2011, 11:02:32 am
Stickied.
Title: Re: Hades, learn to uvmap dammit
Post by: Luis Dias on May 26, 2011, 11:05:43 am
Stickied.

woot? rofl
Title: Re: Hades, learn to uvmap dammit
Post by: AndrewofDoom on May 26, 2011, 11:09:23 am
I honestly agree. I picked up modeling almost a year ago as well, and he's well above my level of skill right now.

That said, it would be awesome if he could UV map and texture his stuff as well though if he doesn't want to, I'll be more than happy to paint it with my wonderful neon-colored paint cans.
Title: Re: Hades, learn to uvmap dammit
Post by: Grizzly on May 26, 2011, 11:14:18 am
Stickied.

You might want to unsticky a lot of other stuff in order for people to be able to make this thread out from the vast sea of other stickied threads.
Title: Re: Hades, learn to uvmap dammit
Post by: Qent on May 26, 2011, 11:17:56 am
Is this about not doing tiles?
Title: Re: Hades, learn to uvmap dammit
Post by: Angelus on May 26, 2011, 11:19:01 am
I guess, it's stickied for the lulz and until Hades replies.
It wouldn't make any sense to stickie this kind of thread for real real. It's just for play play.
Title: Re: Hades, learn to uvmap dammit
Post by: General Battuta on May 26, 2011, 11:21:55 am
Is this about not doing tiles?

No, Hades is wise to the ways of not doing tiles. It's just a cheerleading squad.
Title: Re: Hades, learn to uvmap dammit
Post by: mjn.mixael on May 26, 2011, 11:42:11 am
I shall throw my hat in the air for Hades.
Title: Re: Hades, learn to uvmap dammit
Post by: Droid803 on May 26, 2011, 12:19:55 pm
The thing is...
Hades DOES know how to UV map.
He just refuses to do it for his models.
God knows why.
Title: Re: Hades, learn to uvmap dammit
Post by: -Sara- on May 26, 2011, 01:20:53 pm
I do remember Hades mentioning on the forums here and there a few times he models for himself, because he finds it fun. It might be UV mapping just is not fun for him.
Title: Re: Hades, learn to uvmap dammit
Post by: Droid803 on May 26, 2011, 01:22:35 pm
UV mapping is definitely not fun.
Certainly ranks in the "most tedious and boring ****" category.
Title: Re: Hades, learn to uvmap dammit
Post by: General Battuta on May 26, 2011, 01:23:52 pm
We're here to make it fun!

just put on some nyan.cat and
Title: Re: Hades, learn to uvmap dammit
Post by: Commander Zane on May 26, 2011, 01:25:06 pm
We're here to make it fun!

just put on some nyan.cat and
This. Oh so this. :D
Title: Re: Hades, learn to uvmap dammit
Post by: mjn.mixael on May 26, 2011, 01:38:24 pm
UV mapping is definitely not fun.
Certainly ranks in the "most tedious and boring ****" category.

 :lol:
 :wakka:

texturing is fun though. (IMO)
Title: Re: Hades, learn to uvmap dammit
Post by: Vengence on May 26, 2011, 03:46:02 pm
Ah UVing... the one step that makes or breaks people even more than textures. It takes a lot of skill to UV fast and good, being able to understand how a mesh unfolds so that you can get maximum exposure for the minimum of waste. Have pity on those who have to UV for a living  :p!
Title: Re: Hades, learn to uvmap dammit
Post by: Droid803 on May 26, 2011, 03:57:36 pm
I wish you could teach AutoUV how to do that.
Title: Re: Hades, learn to uvmap dammit
Post by: Rodo on May 26, 2011, 04:12:44 pm
texturing is worst, I just can't get my ships to look the way I want them to.
Title: Re: Hades, learn to uvmap dammit
Post by: General Battuta on May 26, 2011, 04:14:32 pm
You can be ANYTHING hades

(http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/252465_10150190625548354_648868353_7020233_4490058_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Hades, learn to uvmap dammit
Post by: BrotherBryon on May 26, 2011, 04:49:45 pm
Hell if I can learn to do it (Believe me I struggled with it a lot at first) then I'm certain Hades can do it if he applied himself. On the plus side the UV unwrapper in the latest version of blender is a heck of a lot better than previous versions. A lot less stretching when using the conformal method. I was able to UV map the new Ennead and Herc 3 models in about a day and a half each with it. Texturing is another matter though.
Title: Re: Hades, learn to uvmap dammit
Post by: Hades on May 26, 2011, 05:03:09 pm
I know how to uvmap, in fact, I've even started uvmapping the Hemera already. I just don't know texture-making worth squat.
Title: Re: Hades, learn to uvmap dammit
Post by: Axem on May 26, 2011, 05:09:01 pm
Fine then! I guess we just made this big thread for you all for nothing! I say we charge him the bill for this little party.
Title: Re: Hades, learn to texture dammit
Post by: Droid803 on May 26, 2011, 05:13:21 pm
There. Still relevant.
Title: Re: Hades, learn to uvmap dammit
Post by: General Battuta on May 26, 2011, 05:31:28 pm
I know how to uvmap, in fact, I've even started uvmapping the Hemera already. I just don't know texture-making worth squat.

(http://i52.tinypic.com/dmac6e.gif)
Title: Re: Hades, learn to uvmap dammit
Post by: Scooby_Doo on May 27, 2011, 03:16:46 am
Uvmapping isn't that boring or tedious, what I do find more is texturing panels and rivets.  Oh and the actually conversion to where it works is still a major boring.