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Title: Four Freespace Easter Eggs You Probably Didn't Notice (SPOILERS LIKELY)
Post by: Nuclear1 on May 30, 2011, 02:06:54 am
Four Freespace Easter Eggs You Probably Didn't Notice

It's no secret when it comes to developing games and campaigns that mission designers and writers like to slip little tributes to either theirs or others' works in their own storyline.  It's a sign of respect in some cases, incorporation of other universes' elements in some others, and sometimes just cool little tidbits to reward players. 

Some of these are fairly well-hidden yet clear references, while others are in your face but not immediately clear as to the origin.  Freespace has a lot of both.


#4 – Blue Planet:  The Former Slavedrivers of Mars are Still Around

Blue Planet:  War in Heaven is the sequel to Darius' original work, Age of Aquarius.  The story revolves around the war between the Sol-borne United Earth Federation and the invading GTVA forces. The player's character is a fresh newbie by the name of Noemi Laporte, fighting for the UEF 18 months after the conflict's beginning.  Roughly a third of the way through the campaign, Laporte transfers from Earth's First Fleet to the Martian Second Fleet.

For those who are unfamiliar with it, Red Faction is a series created by Volition Inc., the same company that created Freespace.  The first game in the series centered around a group of miners on the Red Planet revolting against the corrupt Ultor Corporation in the year 2070.  The revolt succeeds, and Mars is freed from Ultor.

The War in Heaven team, in either a simple nod to our beloved Volition or as an inclusion of the events of Red Faction in Blue Planet history, note that Ultor is still alive and well three hundred years after they were driven off of Mars.  Several UEF ships and weapons, including the Kentauroi interceptor, were built by the “Oxys-Ultor Threat Workshop.” 

Additionally, note the Red Faction: Guerrilla logo:

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_DoMLXpRH5CU/TT8Fy13zI5I/AAAAAAAABI0/SerUr44X63M/s1600/Red+Faction+Guerrilla.jpg)

And then notice one of Captain Simms' lines in The Intervention: "That better not turn into some kind of running joke, Laporte. Netreba cracks down on chain-of-command romances like a guerilla's hammer, and I'm on thin ice as it is with the casualty rate."

While we're on the subject...


#3 – Volition Pays Tribute to Freespace in Red Faction

While Descent and Freespace were the franchises that made a name for young Parallax Software and Volition Inc. in the PC  gaming world, Red Facton would be the series that would pave their way on the consoles.  Scroll back to the previous section if you're unfamiliar with the premise of the series.

The third installment would be titled Red Faction: Guerrilla, an open-world game telling the story of the newly-reformed Red Faction's revolt against their liberators-turned-oppressors, the Earth Defense Force.  One of the later operations involves a daring charge against a major EDF artillery base. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxEYrlzL13M&feature=BFa&list=SPAD78CF2A1594DEF1&index=72)

As you drive around reaching waypoints and trying to avoid being hit by artillery, you hear other panicked guerrillas over the comms:
Help me!  There's blood everywhere!
Where's the damn waypoint?!
I can't see! I can't see!
Where's Beckett?  Has anyone seen Beckett?

Wait, what?  Beckett? Surely they didn't...
That one took Bosch's head right off!
(http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/5526/bosch.png)
Why yes, yes it did.

Yeah, they did.  Volition included some Freespace names into this mission: you can also notice Cordova and Snipes if you play this mission enough.

Additionally, you can unlock an achievement for shooting down fifty EDF gunships:  Freed Space.


#2 – Silent Threat: Reborn; Famous Ships, Pop Culture

Oh, boy.  Silent Threat, how we remember ye.  You came as an add-on pack to Volition's extemely well-received Descent: Freespace, but how you disappointed.  Plotholes aplenty, unnamed jump nodes, generally-poor mission design.  You were the one bad mark on an otherwise-excellent franchise.  Oh well, at least you shipped with The Destiny of Peace. (http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/Destiny_of_Peace)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/NelsonAndBronte/FS2/NepentheApproach.jpg)
Well...alright, I guess I'm not that mad...

Silent Threat should have succeeded; it had an interesting premise, that of the revolt of Galactic Terran Intelligence, and at its center, one of the coolest big ships in Freespace:  the Hades.  Fortunately, the good people at the FSPort spent several years rehabilitating the campaign.  The result:  one of the most highly-anticipated and well-received campaigns in recent years. 

(http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/2051/strdead2qgi.jpg)
Doing quite well for a campaign dead.

While great care was taken to preserve most of Silent Threat's original story ideas, the FSPort team added in their fair share of nods to the community.  Remember the GTC Lonewolf, the cruiser you spend most of your early missions in Derelict around?  It was mentioned in Derelict that the Lonewolf had been in service since the Great War—and now it makes an appearance in Silent Threat: Reborn.

Another mission a little more than halfway through also contains so many HLP and pop culture references it borders on insane.  Among the references:  an overzealous ST:R fan (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,9643.msg225007.html#msg225007), unknown persons setting up explosive devices (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVsijmCFs50), and some famous last words. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWLBljvEG-M)  Well, either the last one's a reference to good ol' Marlon Brando, or some Vasudans were in the middle of a ST playthrough.

The horror....the horror....


#1 – Blue Planet:  Steele is More Badass Than You Know

Anyone who's played War in Heaven is probably familiar with the campaign's breakout character—the GTVA's Admiral Steele.  The man is a tactical genius; a ruthless gentleman-warrior.  At the time of his appearance, he's probably the single most feared man amongst all of the threats facing the poor Federation. 

(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/2718/downloadzu.png)
The United Earth Federation, Jim! Calm down!


So Admiral Steele's a badass isn't he?  What exactly could make him more hardcore than a guy who makes contingencies for his contingencies and doesn't afraid of anything?

Well, you could base him off one of the most badass villains in recent sci-fi history:  the Alliance Operative.

(http://i51.tinypic.com/117y9tz.jpg)
You are now seeing Steele as black and carrying a sword.  You're welcome.

Every word you can use to describe Steele can be used to describe this man; ruthless, remarkably intelligent, calm, gentlemanly.  As other characters say:  a believer, kills and never asks why, comes at you sideways, someone his enemies have every reason to be afraid of.

Or hell, just listen to him for one minute. (http://www.anyclip.com/movies/serenity/the-operative-calls-mal/)

Now, why the hell am I making this connection?  What does The Operative have to do with Admiral Steele, despite a few similar character traits? 

Well, take a look at the tech room entries.  You'll find Admiral Steele's first name:  Chiwetel.  And it just so happens, the actor playing The Operative shares that very same first name.  Now, if it was “Bob”, I would have accepted a coincidence, but Chiwetel, even in the 24th century, probably isn't on the top list of baby names.

(http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu62/daily_firefly/Serenity/11-01-09fireflytheoperative.jpg)
Blue Planet team wanted to give Steele sword-training too, but they don't want to be held responsible for head asplosions.
Title: Re: Four Freespace Easter Eggs You Probably Didn't Notice (SPOILERS LIKELY)
Post by: QuantumDelta on May 30, 2011, 02:15:45 am
Good show
Title: Re: Four Freespace Easter Eggs You Probably Didn't Notice (SPOILERS LIKELY)
Post by: Mongoose on May 30, 2011, 03:11:55 am
Good stuff. :) It's probably a bit more well-known than these, but there's also a Descent reference in the retail FS2 campaign.  In the final mission, good ol' "Apocalypse," there are a few freighters amongst the evacuating convoys carrying unscanned cargo, one of which is revealed to be "Dravis' Diary."  Samuel Dravis happens to be one of the primary characters in the Descent series, and given his personality, his diary would probably make great reading...except for the fact that it's inevitably incinerated by the supernova. :p
Title: Re: Four Freespace Easter Eggs You Probably Didn't Notice (SPOILERS LIKELY)
Post by: Pred the Penguin on May 30, 2011, 03:34:00 am
The last one about Steele was posted on the BP forum I think, but the others I didn't know about. Great stuff! :yes:
Title: Re: Four Freespace Easter Eggs You Probably Didn't Notice (SPOILERS LIKELY)
Post by: PsychoLandlord on May 30, 2011, 03:42:35 am
I wasnt aware the comparison had been drawn before, but I'm glad I wasn't the only one who saw a bit of the Operative in Steele :nod:
Title: Re: Four Freespace Easter Eggs You Probably Didn't Notice (SPOILERS LIKELY)
Post by: Snail on May 30, 2011, 05:58:17 am
Fun read. :yes:

ST:R's last mission also had the holed Legion as a backdrop in Deneb. Which I guess is more of a Continuity Nod than an Easter Egg but still cool.
Title: Re: Four Freespace Easter Eggs You Probably Didn't Notice (SPOILERS LIKELY)
Post by: Kopachris on May 30, 2011, 07:20:08 am
Fun read. :yes:

ST:R's last mission also had the holed Legion as a backdrop in Deneb. Which I guess is more of a Continuity Nod than an Easter Egg but still cool.

I've noticed that all the MediaVPs missions (FSPort MediaVPs, ST-R MediaVPs, regular MediaVPs) have all had their backgrounds set up so that any mission that takes place in the same system as another mission will have the same background as that mission, unlike retail.  I think most of them even got star colors correct (e.g. Aldebaran, Wolf-359).  The team did a great job on Wolf-359's sun placement; very red light, small star--typical of a brown dwarf.
Title: Re: Four Freespace Easter Eggs You Probably Didn't Notice (SPOILERS LIKELY)
Post by: The E on May 30, 2011, 07:35:48 am
In addition to the noted easter eggs in RF:G, there's another random soundbite you can hear in some of the camps, "I wonder what happened to Bosch...."
Title: Re: Four Freespace Easter Eggs You Probably Didn't Notice (SPOILERS LIKELY)
Post by: TrashMan on May 30, 2011, 09:10:34 am
The thread is decieveing...those are mod easter eggs.
I fully opened the thread excepecting some missed original [V] easter eggs.

#3 is the only one that actually interested me.
Title: Re: Four Freespace Easter Eggs You Probably Didn't Notice (SPOILERS LIKELY)
Post by: 0rph3u5 on May 30, 2011, 12:14:30 pm
You have forgotten the Subach Innes-reference in RF:G:

after destroying the the EDF air base the in-game news cast will bring a story on a stock price drop of "military contractor Subach Innes" with some cover-up story why the martian air-base is now out of commission...

also the half-faded face of a shivan in the original FS2 installer background always reminded me of scene in B5 (just got to dig out which episode..)
Title: Re: Four Freespace Easter Eggs You Probably Didn't Notice (SPOILERS LIKELY)
Post by: Nuclear1 on May 30, 2011, 03:52:56 pm
In the final mission, good ol' "Apocalypse," there are a few freighters amongst the evacuating convoys carrying unscanned cargo, one of which is revealed to be "Dravis' Diary."  Samuel Dravis happens to be one of the primary characters in the Descent series, and given his personality, his diary would probably make great reading...except for the fact that it's inevitably incinerated by the supernova. :p

I never really played much Descent, but that's a really good find! 

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In addition to the noted easter eggs in RF:G, there's another random soundbite you can hear in some of the camps, "I wonder what happened to Bosch...."
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after destroying the the EDF air base the in-game news cast will bring a story on a stock price drop of "military contractor Subach Innes" with some cover-up story why the martian air-base is now out of commission...
I've always tried to keep an ear out for stuff in the base camp and the Voice of Mars, but I hadn't noticed either of these until now.  Very cool.

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The thread is decieveing...those are mod easter eggs.
I fully opened the thread excepecting some missed original [V] easter eggs.

#3 is the only one that actually interested me

Sorry, I'll try to be more clear next time.
Title: Re: Four Freespace Easter Eggs You Probably Didn't Notice (SPOILERS LIKELY)
Post by: Snail on May 31, 2011, 06:24:11 am
I heard (not sure) that Apocalypse contained a lot of cargo gags about :v:'s next game, Summoner.
Title: Re: Four Freespace Easter Eggs You Probably Didn't Notice (SPOILERS LIKELY)
Post by: Mobius on May 31, 2011, 06:38:41 am
Hey, wait... there was an idea lying around about integrating Red Faction into INF. Glad to know that the BP moved to that direction, too: it's a good way to celebrate :v:'s achievements, IMO. :)

EDIT: Uh, if I remember well, there was a Deimos in one of :v:'s other games. Summoner, maybe?
Title: Re: Four Freespace Easter Eggs You Probably Didn't Notice (SPOILERS LIKELY)
Post by: Snail on May 31, 2011, 06:43:13 am
EDIT: Uh, if I remember well, there was a Deimos in one of :v:'s other games. Summoner, maybe?
Was there? That's quite cool.
Title: Re: Four Freespace Easter Eggs You Probably Didn't Notice (SPOILERS LIKELY)
Post by: Colonol Dekker on May 31, 2011, 06:52:33 am
Not a GTCV Deimos though :p

Also,.,..........  iwuvfishes :3
Title: Re: Four Freespace Easter Eggs You Probably Didn't Notice (SPOILERS LIKELY)
Post by: Mobius on May 31, 2011, 07:00:59 am
I've never seen it (or played that game, for the record) but I remember at least one community member claiming that there was a Deimos in one of :v:'s later games. I'm not sure if it was Summoner, though.
Title: Re: Four Freespace Easter Eggs You Probably Didn't Notice (SPOILERS LIKELY)
Post by: TrashMan on June 01, 2011, 06:02:11 am

Sorry, I'll try to be more clear next time.

I'd advise that...cause threads similar to this can have...unintended consequences...People loving the object(s) of the article less. not more.
Title: Re: Four Freespace Easter Eggs You Probably Didn't Notice (SPOILERS LIKELY)
Post by: Darius on June 01, 2011, 09:23:35 am
I don't think you could love BP any less, Trashman :P
Title: Re: Four Freespace Easter Eggs You Probably Didn't Notice (SPOILERS LIKELY)
Post by: Spoon on June 01, 2011, 11:31:06 am
I'd advise that...cause threads similar to this can have...unintended consequences...People loving the object(s) of the article less. not more.
Wooooooh.... you make it sound so.... ominous...

Dark tidings are afoot!
Title: Re: Four Freespace Easter Eggs You Probably Didn't Notice (SPOILERS LIKELY)
Post by: SypheDMar on June 01, 2011, 10:54:54 pm

Sorry, I'll try to be more clear next time.

I'd advise that...cause threads similar to this can have...unintended consequences...People loving the object(s) of the article less. not more.
On the contrary, I love this thread. Comments bring in more easter eggs for the mass. :D
Title: Re: Four Freespace Easter Eggs You Probably Didn't Notice (SPOILERS LIKELY)
Post by: TrashMan on June 02, 2011, 01:29:34 am
I don't think you could love BP any less, Trashman :P

You'd be wrong...so very wrong.

I did love it more when I first plaeyd it tough. Why not? It IS one of the best FS campaigns. Yet the more I hear people talking about it, the less I like it.
Hype backlash, Fan Dumb and all that jazz ... putting any custom camapign in the same boat as official [V] stuff rubs me the wrong way. And I'd like to say that I can ignore that, but...a mind works in mysterius ways...
Title: Re: Four Freespace Easter Eggs You Probably Didn't Notice (SPOILERS LIKELY)
Post by: Colonol Dekker on June 02, 2011, 06:40:42 am
It's a blindingly awesome, cinematic, engrossing, well told spectacular fanfic with well published assets and an engaging story which frankly beats the heck out of some of my favourites in the genre, but still a fanfic.



That doesn't mean i love it any less :D


Just not as much as Retail FS2.
Title: Re: Four Freespace Easter Eggs You Probably Didn't Notice (SPOILERS LIKELY)
Post by: General Battuta on June 02, 2011, 08:01:06 am
Hype backlash, Fan Dumb and all that jazz ... putting any custom camapign in the same boat as official [V] stuff rubs me the wrong way.

I don't think anyone intends to do that. Nuclear1 probably just meant the thread as 'FreeSpace Community Easter Eggs' or 'FreeSpace Open Easter Eggs'.

Nuclear1 you should add the spoons from Vassago's Dirge!
Title: Re: Four Freespace Easter Eggs You Probably Didn't Notice (SPOILERS LIKELY)
Post by: TrashMan on June 02, 2011, 08:21:22 am
Oh, I don't think he intended to do that. But let's face it, it's sorta the impression one gets.
2 BP easter eggs, 1 Silent Threat, 1 by [V].

Had there been more easter eggs from others campaigns, and no [V] stuff I'd say nothing.
Then again, I'd be lying if I said that at lest on some subconcious level, part of my repulsion doesn't stem from the fact that it's BP...and we know how human psyche can be petty, even on a sub-concious level.
Title: Re: Four Freespace Easter Eggs You Probably Didn't Notice (SPOILERS LIKELY)
Post by: General Battuta on June 02, 2011, 08:24:18 am
Yeah, I understand.
Title: Re: Four Freespace Easter Eggs You Probably Didn't Notice (SPOILERS LIKELY)
Post by: Darius on June 02, 2011, 08:29:42 am
Me too.
Title: Re: Four Freespace Easter Eggs You Probably Didn't Notice (SPOILERS LIKELY)
Post by: TrashMan on June 03, 2011, 04:17:39 am
(http://memedepot.com/uploads/0/207_not_sure_if_serious.jpg)
Title: Re: Four Freespace Easter Eggs You Probably Didn't Notice (SPOILERS LIKELY)
Post by: Colonol Dekker on June 03, 2011, 04:35:33 am
(http://memedepot.com/uploads/0/207_not_sure_if_serious.jpg)


:0!
Title: Re: Four Freespace Easter Eggs You Probably Didn't Notice (SPOILERS LIKELY)
Post by: Admiral-Sabree on October 26, 2015, 01:11:53 am
interestingly in blue planet the heavy frigate model has writing scripts on the inside of its pollys. turn on no collide and you can fly in and read them.
Title: Re: Four Freespace Easter Eggs You Probably Didn't Notice (SPOILERS LIKELY)
Post by: NGTM-1R on October 26, 2015, 01:25:08 am
An irony, if we're doing mods.

Long ago for Cleaning Crew I had a mission where you're sent to guard a derelict Typhon, which is actually bait to draw out a Shivan destroyer. You're ordered to leave the area after the destroyer jumps out, and told afterwards it lead to a successful tracking of the destroyer.

If you want to know how, open up the relevant mission file. There's a GTF Pegasus lurking where you can't see it from the mission start area (and far from the Typhon) behind a TC-TRI, waiting to follow the Shivans into subspace and track them. I don't think anyone's ever noticed it.