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Title: FS3: k so i have this idea...
Post by: JaredFrost95 on July 17, 2011, 06:31:36 pm
I'm gonna need help! Here's the plan. We track the owner of volition by cellphone(easy) and find him. Then, when hes walking on the street someone drive on the sidewalk, I will push him out of the way(easy) and save his life. He will be so thrilled he will tell me if there is anything I need, just ask him. So we go to dinner like you're supposed to do when you save someone from a crazy driver. As we conversate, I'll bring up what a great game free space was and how it was a shame there wasn't a third game. "Hey here is a crazy idea, lets make a third! After all I did save your life..." GENIUS... who's in?
Title: Re: FS3: k so i have this idea...
Post by: Luis Dias on July 17, 2011, 06:42:36 pm
volition doesn't hold the rights for freespace. Interplay does. So no, even your brilliant and amazing idea won't do it.
Title: Re: FS3: k so i have this idea...
Post by: JaredFrost95 on July 17, 2011, 06:45:26 pm
DAM   well no biggie we just convert to interplay.
Title: Re: FS3: k so i have this idea...
Post by: Luis Dias on July 17, 2011, 06:48:11 pm
it wouldnt' be a profitable game. And please let go of the subject. I have no problems with it, but many people here might flame you just for bringing it up.
Title: Re: FS3: k so i have this idea...
Post by: Black Wolf on July 17, 2011, 06:49:17 pm
Interplay's a public company, there's no one owner. Plus, they're in the toilet, hey couldn;t make FS3 if they wanted to. Plus Volition are kind of owned by THQ, so they can't work with Interplay even though they do want to make FS3.

Honestly, there's plenty of people still at Volition who've said many times that they'd love to make a new Freespace game. The motivation exists, it's just not financially viable, or contractually practical. Sad but true. :(

[EDIT]Nobody's going to flame an overenthusiastic newbie. Those days are years over.
Title: Re: FS3: k so i have this idea...
Post by: LordPomposity on July 17, 2011, 07:22:06 pm
*grabs popcorn, keeping an eye on the nearest exit*
Title: Re: FS3: k so i have this idea...
Post by: LoneKnight on July 17, 2011, 10:53:26 pm
*grabs popcorn, keeping an eye on the nearest exit*

Seconded.

Not to mention that Interplay has stooped as low as filing lawsuits against development companies that they sold their IP's to in a vain attempt to pay of debts. They are currently in court with Bethesda over a lawsuit where they failed to uphold a contract and are challenging it, attempting to get the IP to Fallout back. How the mighty have fallen.
Title: Re: FS3: k so i have this idea...
Post by: JaredFrost95 on July 18, 2011, 12:05:47 am
Interplay's a public company, there's no one owner. Plus, they're in the toilet, hey couldn;t make FS3 if they wanted to. Plus Volition are kind of owned by THQ, so they can't work with Interplay even though they do want to make FS3.

Honestly, there's plenty of people still at Volition who've said many times that they'd love to make a new Freespace game. The motivation exists, it's just not financially viable, or contractually practical. Sad but true. :(

[EDIT]Nobody's going to flame an overenthusiastic newbie. Those days are years over.
it was clearly a joke bro lol but thanks for the insight.
Title: Re: FS3: k so i have this idea...
Post by: Droid803 on July 18, 2011, 12:35:53 am
/me facepalm

FS3 is already out you MORON  http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=76933.0
Title: Re: FS3: k so i have this idea...
Post by: mjn.mixael on July 18, 2011, 12:37:48 am
 :lol:
Title: Re: FS3: k so i have this idea...
Post by: JaredFrost95 on July 18, 2011, 02:23:58 am
/me facepalm

FS3 is already out you MORON  http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=76933.0
   haha "haha shivins you war us on 2 times to many so now we war you on"  hahahahahahahahahaha
Title: Re: FS3: k so i have this idea...
Post by: Jeff Vader on July 18, 2011, 03:50:50 am
[EDIT]Nobody's going to flame an overenthusiastic newbie. Those days are years over.
(http://www.frikipedia.es/images/thumb/b/b7/Escorpio1.gif/200px-Escorpio1.gif)
Title: Re: FS3: k so i have this idea...
Post by: NGTM-1R on July 18, 2011, 04:06:33 am
[EDIT]Nobody's going to flame an overenthusiastic newbie. Those days are years over.

Why should we assume it's not a regular trolling? Several have expressed desires that the forum head in that direction.
Title: Re: FS3: k so i have this idea...
Post by: Black Wolf on July 18, 2011, 04:26:00 am
I meant the whole thing where people got hammered for the mere mention of FS3.
Title: Re: FS3: k so i have this idea...
Post by: TrashMan on July 18, 2011, 04:26:14 am
Come back once you gethered a few million $$$ as investment capitol. Then you can make FS3.


Money is power. If you have enough money, you can make things happen.
Title: Re: FS3: k so i have this idea...
Post by: LordPomposity on July 18, 2011, 11:05:14 am
/me facepalm

FS3 is already out you MORON  http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=76933.0

In the future, this ought to be the first post in all FreeSpace 3 threads.
Title: Re: FS3: k so i have this idea...
Post by: LoneKnight on July 18, 2011, 12:38:03 pm
I'm gonna need help! Here's the plan. We track the owner of volition by cellphone(easy) and find him. Then, when hes walking on the street someone drive on the sidewalk, I will push him out of the way(easy) and save his life. He will be so thrilled he will tell me if there is anything I need, just ask him. So we go to dinner like you're supposed to do when you save someone from a crazy driver. As we conversate, I'll bring up what a great game free space was and how it was a shame there wasn't a third game. "Hey here is a crazy idea, lets make a third! After all I did save your life..." GENIUS... who's in?

Didn't realize DS was back.
Title: Re: FS3: k so i have this idea...
Post by: MikeRoz on July 18, 2011, 09:35:33 pm
Doesn't Volition have the rights again? Or am I thinking of Relic and Homeworld...

Wouldn't mind a Homeworld 3. FS3 on the other hand, I'd be worried about. FS2 was pretty arcadey for its time, yet it's still hopelessly beyond the target console market...
Title: Re: FS3: k so i have this idea...
Post by: Commander Zane on July 19, 2011, 07:49:20 am
Because it doesn't belong in console.
Title: Re: FS3: k so i have this idea...
Post by: pecenipicek on July 19, 2011, 08:39:28 am
Doesn't Volition have the rights again? Or am I thinking of Relic and Homeworld...

Wouldn't mind a Homeworld 3. FS3 on the other hand, I'd be worried about. FS2 was pretty arcadey for its time, yet it's still hopelessly beyond the target console market...
yer thinking of relic and homeworld. and relic is taunting everyone with... something. cant quite put my finger on it.
Title: Re: FS3: k so i have this idea...
Post by: Mikes on July 19, 2011, 09:08:16 am
yer thinking of relic and homeworld. and relic is taunting everyone with... something. cant quite put my finger on it.

Looking at Relics past/recent projects my money is on Battlefleet Gothic - Homeworld style - ... ahhh one can dream ;)
Title: Re: FS3: k so i have this idea...
Post by: ShivanSpS on July 19, 2011, 10:31:14 pm
well Egosoft has been living of the X series only... why Volition cant make a FS3, or something with another name of the same style?... I think it the publisher the problem :P

and someone knows what is this "Secret Proyect Y" on Volition page?, it has been there for months.

Also, Sword of the Stars 2 is coming out in september... space games arent dead at all.
Title: Re: FS3: k so i have this idea...
Post by: Luis Dias on July 20, 2011, 04:32:45 am
FS2 was the best space sim ever built, and it flopped in sales pretty badly. That's the reason you don't see space sims anymore.

FS2 was also more like a story telling game, and for that kind of game we have RPGs and action games which are way more personal and atmospheric. FS2Open is still amazingly cool, because as a story-telling game, it is quite an easy one to mod, and the results are still pretty good.
Title: Re: FS3: k so i have this idea...
Post by: headdie on July 20, 2011, 11:53:30 am
well Egosoft has been living of the X series only... why Volition cant make a FS3, or something with another name of the same style?... I think it the publisher the problem :P

and someone knows what is this "Secret Proyect Y" on Volition page?, it has been there for months.

Also, Sword of the Stars 2 is coming out in september... space games arent dead at all.

Volition can't make another FS game because they no longer own the Intellectual Property behind the story
Title: Re: FS3: k so i have this idea...
Post by: ShivanSpS on July 20, 2011, 12:19:30 pm
sure, but still they can make a game called frexxpace the third :P

i know that Freespace story cant be used anymore, but nothing hold them of making a completely new game... at this point is a good thing.
Title: Re: FS3: k so i have this idea...
Post by: headdie on July 20, 2011, 12:41:09 pm
sure, but still they can make a game called frexxpace the third :P

i know that Freespace story cant be used anymore, but nothing hold them of making a completely new game... at this point is a good thing.

The problem with IP and laws that protect creative content is that "similar" works can be treated the same as works directly based on, and Interplay is desperate for money so would probably try the legal route, the fine and royalties would help them greatly to survive a few more years.
Title: Re: FS3: k so i have this idea...
Post by: LoneKnight on July 20, 2011, 12:59:17 pm
The problem with IP and laws that protect creative content is that "similar" works can be treated the same as works directly based on, and Interplay is desperate for money so would probably try the legal route, the fine and royalties would help them greatly to survive a few more years.

Unless it's considered a parody, in which case its legally protected.
Title: Re: FS3: k so i have this idea...
Post by: Flipside on July 20, 2011, 01:11:53 pm
That's not always assured, J.K.Rowling succesfully sued several parodies of Harry Potter under plagiarism laws. It'd be a roll of the dice at best, though it might be easier in the US than the UK.
Title: Re: FS3: k so i have this idea...
Post by: ShivanSpS on July 20, 2011, 09:05:33 pm
Just because a company has made a space sim in the past it doest mean it cant make a new one...
Title: Re: FS3: k so i have this idea...
Post by: Marcov on July 26, 2011, 02:27:34 am
/me facepalm

FS3 is already out you MORON  http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=76933.0

That is about one of the most hilarious threads I have ever come across in the Internet.
Title: Re: FS3: k so i have this idea...
Post by: FlamingCobra on July 31, 2011, 10:29:13 am
Better idea:

What if Bungie buys the rights to FreeSpace from Interplay, since the latter is in dire need of money, and then announces FreeSpace 3? Everyone at  :v-old: will quit their jobs and go work for Bungie. Consequently the game will practically be made by  :v-old:.

The game will sell because:
1. Halo nerds will buy anything with Bungie on it.
2. FreeSpace fans will buy anything with FreeSpace on it.

Problem solved.
Title: Re: FS3: k so i have this idea...
Post by: Lucika on July 31, 2011, 11:14:09 am
Personally I'd rather see a FreeSpace 4 game. :P
Title: Re: FS3: k so i have this idea...
Post by: ShivanSpS on August 11, 2011, 01:45:58 am
But again, there is any info on the "Secret Project Y"? it appeared on the website shortly after the "We'd Kill To Make FreeSpace 3"...
Title: Re: FS3: k so i have this idea...
Post by: The E on August 11, 2011, 11:14:24 am
How often does it need to be repeated......

Volition is NOT working on FS3 at present, unless THQ bought the license without telling anyone.
Title: Re: FS3: k so i have this idea...
Post by: Roanoke on August 13, 2011, 02:12:09 pm
it wouldnt' be a profitable game. And please let go of the subject. I have no problems with it, but many people here might flame you just for bringing it up.

That's going back years. One time people where quietly optomistic, then get bored of new buys asking the inevitable question and would get pissed off, now no one really cares either way.
Title: Re: FS3: k so i have this idea...
Post by: ShivanSpS on August 16, 2011, 09:34:01 am
Why it has to be FS3? they cant make a new space game that has nothing to do with FS?
Title: Re: FS3: k so i have this idea...
Post by: Jeff Vader on August 16, 2011, 12:37:30 pm
Well, considering the popularity of space games today.
Title: Re: FS3: k so i have this idea...
Post by: deathfun on August 17, 2011, 10:19:21 pm
But again, there is any info on the "Secret Project Y"? it appeared on the website shortly after the "We'd Kill To Make FreeSpace 3"...

Maybe they just like messing with our brains
Title: Re: FS3: k so i have this idea...
Post by: The E on August 19, 2011, 06:38:55 am
Maybe they, just like any other AA or AAA developer out there, have a number of projects they're working on concurrently while not being able to tell anyone about the specifics.
Title: Re: FS3: k so i have this idea...
Post by: Polpolion on August 19, 2011, 12:12:12 pm
Maybe they, just like any other AA or AAA developer out there, have a number of projects they're working on concurrently while not being able to tell anyone about the specifics.
So you're telling me Secret Project Y is a project they're working on that they can't tell anyone about? :p
Title: Re: FS3: k so i have this idea...
Post by: S-99 on August 28, 2011, 08:11:56 am
Why don't we give derek a call while we're at it for a possibility too?
(http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/3414/freespace3.png)
Title: Re: FS3: k so i have this idea...
Post by: The E on August 28, 2011, 08:14:09 am
k so i have this idea. It's called a lock.