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Title: SW: EP2 Discrepancies
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on May 25, 2002, 02:00:17 pm
Has anyone noticed how LucasFilm don't care about continuity? I mean, in episdoe two we find the Lars family owning c3po, yet when they buy him in episode 4 they have no memory of him, this is just one of a startling list. Come on, George, give the intelligence of your fans a little credit.
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Post by: Pera on May 25, 2002, 02:18:24 pm
Ehh.. There are quite many protocol droids in SW universe you know, though probably not many as annoying as C3PO :p
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Post by: Thorn on May 25, 2002, 02:33:01 pm
Maybe they didnt recognise him in gold...
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Post by: Wildlife on May 25, 2002, 02:53:10 pm
Hmm, but wouldn't c3po remember going back to the larrs, unless of course his memory was wiped or sumin?
something i might of missed :]
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Post by: an0n on May 25, 2002, 02:56:34 pm
The brutal torture and death of his mother might have screwed with his memory over that period. Besides, little Larrs might not have seen C3P0 that much. C3P0 was probably only taken out of the droid shed when big Larrs needed to talk to some traders or pissy moisture farming droids.
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Post by: Dark_4ce on May 25, 2002, 03:09:43 pm
Well in "A New Hope" Owen Lars does recognise C-3po as a protocol droid, but as Pera said, there's probably so many protocol droids in the galaxy, that that Owen woulnd't really consider C-3po as the C-3po of his younger years. As for 3po remembering the Lars, I think the safest bet is that his memory was errased, cause he doesen't even remember Obi-Wan Kenobi! However, R2-D2 DOES infact remember everything! :D
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Post by: Zeronet on May 25, 2002, 03:28:26 pm
Probably thousands upon thousands of similar models, also when they see CPO again he is gold.
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Post by: aldo_14 on May 25, 2002, 03:43:57 pm
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Originally posted by Dark_4ce
As for 3po remembering the Lars, I think the safest bet is that his memory was errased, cause he doesen't even remember Obi-Wan Kenobi! However, R2-D2 DOES infact remember everything! :D


I think his memory would have been wiped, anyway, so he couldn't give anything away if he was caught in Ep.4 deliving Obi-Wans message.
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Post by: Grey Wolf on May 25, 2002, 07:26:04 pm
I figure they probably nuke the memories every time a droid is sold legit.
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Post by: Blue Lion on May 25, 2002, 07:39:27 pm
You ever think maybe he did recognize it? But I dunno, I haven't seen it yet, but just cause he doesn't yell "That's him!" doesn't mean anything, just me thinking out loud :D
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Post by: Corsair on May 25, 2002, 08:42:37 pm
Who's read Rogue Squadron? Maybe Artoo is like Whistler. Everytime Whistler is going to have a memory wipe, he uploads his memory to a computer and then downloads it after the wipe. That's how he develops a personality.
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Post by: Ypoknons on May 25, 2002, 08:43:47 pm
I do remembering reading from somewhere that C3P0 did say he worked on moisture farme, and he made that comment someime around/after ANH, I think. If his memory was wiped, that wouldn't have fit, unless he worked on another moisture farmer at another time...
C3P0 not greeting someone else he knew when he say him/her after an amount of time? It seems to me he would not be bursting with 'Oh master Ben, it's so good..." No offense to anyone.
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Post by: LtNarol on May 25, 2002, 09:07:57 pm
I dont recall Whistler getting a memory wipe....which book was that?
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Post by: Corsair on May 25, 2002, 09:12:17 pm
He doesn't get one, but Corran says that he did that back in CorSec when it was required for Whistler to get a memory wipe. Same thing. :D
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Post by: WMCoolmon on May 26, 2002, 01:24:58 am
Ah, but he probably is suspicious. Remember when Luke brings up that the droids have an interesting memory, that they may have been in the rebellion? Owen immediately orders Luke to wipe their memories first thing in the morning. There is also the fact that Artoo claims that Obi-Wan was once his owner...:nod:
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Post by: vadar_1 on May 26, 2002, 01:47:28 am
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Originally posted by WMCoolmon
Ah, but he probably is suspicious. Remember when Luke brings up that the droids have an interesting memory, that they may have been in the rebellion? Owen immediately orders Luke to wipe their memories first thing in the morning. There is also the fact that Artoo claims that Obi-Wan was once his owner...:nod:


He wanted their memories wiped so luke would not find out about his father from Obi-wan
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Post by: WMCoolmon on May 26, 2002, 02:56:16 am
But if he remembered a certain 3P0 unit that had accompanied his father. It would have gone pretty bad for Uncle Owen if the words "Anakin Skywalker" had ever left 3P0's, uh, vocalizer.
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Post by: Fineus on May 26, 2002, 03:29:53 am
I'm having serious trouble believing that an entire thread has been created to discuss C3PO....  Either way it's perfectly possibly that 3POs memory was wiped, Uncle Owen didn't mention it and so on....there's loads of reasons why.
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Post by: Crazy_Ivan80 on May 26, 2002, 03:30:07 am
Fun ting is that between the EP3 and E4 there's a whole period in which the droids changed owners regularly... Anyone remember the series: 'Droids' ?
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Post by: NeoHunter on May 26, 2002, 05:57:49 am
Another thing that George Lucas added is Artoo Detoo's anti-grav boosters. he didn't have those in Episodes 4 to 6.
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Post by: Fineus on May 26, 2002, 06:11:02 am
Perhaps he did but didn't use them?
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Post by: Zeronet on May 26, 2002, 07:48:27 am
Exactly or mabye they ended up getting removed or something in EP3.
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Post by: heretic on May 26, 2002, 08:18:55 am
I'm curious how "sonic mines" work in space.


THERE IS NO SOUND IN SPACE :mad:
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Post by: Dark_4ce on May 26, 2002, 08:20:04 am
Heh. Just watched The Empire Strikes Back. Man, Ep1&2 have totaly started to change the way I watch the original trilogy! YODA LOOKS LIKE HELL! He's older, wrinkled, thin, and alot more gray in colour. Not to mention somewhat deranged. Well, maybe being in solitary for 20 years in a swamp can do that to someone. Anyway, back to topic, 1 part gave me a bit of a chuckle. It's when Han is just about to be carbon frozen, and Chewie gets a bit angry at the propect and starts tossing Stormtroopers around. What made me chuckle is when Boba raises his weapon to shoot chewie and Vader then pushes the weapon down. I always wondered why he did that, why he cared enough for Chewie, not to kill him. Well I was wrong, it was because of Threepio! He didn't want threepio to be shot! :D
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Post by: NeoHunter on May 26, 2002, 12:19:40 pm
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Originally posted by Dark_4ce
What made me chuckle is when Boba raises his weapon to shoot chewie and Vader then pushes the weapon down. I always wondered why he did that, why he cared enough for Chewie, not to kill him. Well I was wrong, it was because of Threepio! He didn't want threepio to be shot! :D


If that's the case, I'm surprised Darth Vadar a.k.a even cares abotu anything at that time.
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Post by: NeoHunter on May 26, 2002, 12:21:54 pm
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Originally posted by heretic
I'm curious how "sonic mines" work in space.


THERE IS NO SOUND IN SPACE :mad:


Don't you know Lucas is best at creating these kinds of crap science? But then again, who cares? As long as lightsabers keep chopping people into half and slicing arms and other limbs off, I don;t mind.:D
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Post by: Grey Wolf on May 26, 2002, 01:03:48 pm
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Originally posted by heretic
I'm curious how "sonic mines" work in space.


THERE IS NO SOUND IN SPACE :mad:
I'm guessing supercompressed gases are released followed by a sonic pulse. Would form a good fighter-supressing weapon for FS....
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Post by: beatspete on May 26, 2002, 02:16:06 pm
Episode 1 and 2 spaceships: Shinny metalic, streamline, look highly advanced.

Episode 4 - 6 spaceships: Chunky, dirty dull colourd, Look a bit clunky...

The fasion changes of the post clone war universe i assume.

pete
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Post by: Grey Wolf on May 26, 2002, 02:23:59 pm
Most of the more advanced looking designs were probably destroyed. Also, why bother making more advanced-looking when you can make it more advanced internally?
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Post by: WMCoolmon on May 26, 2002, 03:49:56 pm
But you have to remember that Obi-Wan's fighter is about the size of an A-Wing, but requires the big circular-thing to hyperspace. Also, Anakin's robotic hand is obviously robotic; in Episode 5-6, Luke's is barely distinguishable from a real hand (you'd have to hit it with a blaster or a lightsaber to find out; or perhaps scan it)
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Post by: Grey Wolf on May 26, 2002, 03:53:52 pm
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Originally posted by WMCoolmon
But you have to remember that Obi-Wan's fighter is about the size of an A-Wing, but requires the big circular-thing to hyperspace. Also, Anakin's robotic hand is obviously robotic; in Episode 5-6, Luke's is barely distinguishable from a real hand (you'd have to hit it with a blaster or a lightsaber to find out; or perhaps scan it)
Or you could take off the glove.
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Post by: Zeronet on May 26, 2002, 03:53:57 pm
I dont think Anakins was finished yet.
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Post by: VW-Dynamo on May 26, 2002, 04:09:40 pm
http://www.northeastsprinkler.com/solf/misc/sw-triumph.wmv
Title: SW: EP2 Discrepancies
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on May 27, 2002, 01:03:54 pm
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Originally posted by beatspete
Episode 1 and 2 spaceships: Shinny metalic, streamline, look highly advanced.

Episode 4 - 6 spaceships: Chunky, dirty dull colourd, Look a bit clunky...

The fasion changes of the post clone war universe i assume.

pete


EP 1 and a bit of Ep 2- Ships aren;t produces in such large quantities, so can still be designed with a bit of flair.

Later, post clone wars, ships are mass produces for war, and are thus utilitarian is design.
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Post by: WMCoolmon on May 27, 2002, 01:31:06 pm
How often did we see civillian traffic? The closest we got was Cloud City, and those look like the vessels used in the first two by quite a bit.
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Post by: Vertigo1 on May 27, 2002, 02:54:14 pm
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Originally posted by NeoHunter
Another thing that George Lucas added is Artoo Detoo's anti-grav boosters. he didn't have those in Episodes 4 to 6.


But if you look up the specs for R2, they were there from the beginning.  No continuity broken. :)
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Post by: Vertigo1 on May 27, 2002, 02:56:17 pm
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Originally posted by heretic
I'm curious how "sonic mines" work in space.


THERE IS NO SOUND IN SPACE :mad:


Eh?  Name doesn't describe the nature of the weapon.  Just like 'turbolaser' doesn't mean a turbolaser is a laser.  A turbolaser is just a funky name for a plasma pulse cannon.