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Hosted Projects - Standalone => Wing Commander Saga => Topic started by: Deathsnake on October 06, 2011, 03:15:40 am
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As I said Last Line of Defence is onhold until Darkest Dawn is released. Besides of the Enigma 2666 Mod I've got another project in the works :D
Operation Serpent is a storyline after Wing 4 and here you are a Confed Pilot and your job is to cut down the last of the Black Lance Forces. A few of them continued to fight against the Border Worlds and Confederation. After the destruction of the Axius Base another one is somewhere between the Confed and Border Worlds territory.
After the first attacks Confed send one of their newest Carrier to investigate the problem. You will be transfered to the TCS McKinley, a Vesuvius Class Supercarrier. Flying Craft will be the Hellcat, Excalibur and the Bearcat. Other ships will be the Southampton, Tallahassee, Concordia, Caernavon. The Border Worlds support with the same Capitalships, Durango Class Light Carrier, Banshee, Vindicator and Avanger. Black Lance have Dragons, Thunderbolts and Arrows (I change some textures with the ones from the Dragon). Capitalships are the Blacklance Carrier, Transport and A new destroyer ^^
I ask Czacen from the Homeworld 2 Mod for the Models of Ella, Sol Sector Base, Axius Base, the Black Lance Carrier, Transport and the Exeter II destroyer.
O.S. will have about 10 Missions so its a short campaign. I have all other models, only the one from Czacen are not done yet. The Axius Base, and Blacklance Transport and Carrier can be (if he give us not the permission) from here: http://killerwave.solsector.net/Ships.html
I hope we get soon answer from him :) Already startet the first missions...
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(http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/9144/screen0113j.jpg)
The McKinley and two escort ships. Armament are 14 AMG, 24 Laserturrets and 2 Capshiplauncher.
Other named Ships are the BWS Princeton (Concordia Class) and the BWS Dominguez (Durango Class)
Searching in the files I found a lots of voices:
Naismith as the communication Officer of the TCS McKinley
Sosa for the Princeton
Miner as a Wingman
Stingray as a Wingman (from the Enigma Files)
a few generic pilots (saga, enigma, wc4demo)
voices for black lance pilots (about 3 different)
voices for capships (about 3 different)
perhaps we can found some speechfiles for Hawk and Panther :)
Should we use Maniac as a pilot? *vote* ^^
Music are four tracks from the WC4 Demo and a few from Armada ;)
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One suggestion: Get ONE Mod finished before you start 20 at once. THis is becoming a little implausible if you ask me...
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The Story sounds good.
Btw there are also black Hellcats in the WC4 Novelisation. What do you think of giving them to the BL in Operation Serpent?
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Maybe.
The Thunderbold are done:
(http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/1885/blthunder.jpg)
The most fighters are already done. Here for this mod I need only 4 capitalships and 2 stations :)
Edit: I change only now the Confed logos with just black color. What do you think now?
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Sosa? I FOOKIN LOOOOOOVVVVVVEE HEERR!!
Prettiest comms op in the universe, and on the rebound too ;7
I look forward to this mod :yes: and enjoy the chance to fly with against my former bretheren foe :nervous:
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Anyone want to make a quick 20,000 credits? That’s what Confed will pay you for taking down a former Lancer...
From Pages 2 and 3 of Star*Soldier.
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And thats what I found about the Dragon:
After the Black Lance Conspiracy was ended, the Dragons were decommissioned from future service by the Terran Confederation. Their commissioning and use were never approved by Confed. Furthermore the fact that the ship was equipped with its trademark red bussards and the fact that the fighter was used in most of the Black Lance's genocidal activities made them a symbol of evil, dooming their future.
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But it still seems that Confed adapted some technology from the Dragon/Lance. Prophecy's Charging Mass Driver has a similar firing principle like the Dragon's Fission Gun, although they are different weapons. (And I think that Prophecy's fighters were originally supposed to have cloaking devices (http://wedge009.net/wc/wcp/#speech).)
Talking about the Fission: I know the Engine doesn't support it yet but perhabs it can via LUA-Scripting. Perhabs some can be written like "When Fission Selected, drop the wings. When not selected, raise them. Before firing it, charge it until firing button has been released."
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I don't think it... And then we need a new Dragon model.
Starman01 has made some new models but I don't know if we can used it and if it fit into the prologue. I ask him about the models :D
http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=71822.0
The capitalships are designed for Saga Darkest Dawn.
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Weapon select animations (amongst a load of animation code) (http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/Animation_Code) are already implemented and have been since at least a few years.
See Steve-o's Federal fighter pack on FSmods / or WIH, for working examples.
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Perhabs some can be written like "When Fission Selected, drop the wings. When not selected, raise them. Before firing it, charge it until firing button has been released."
The first part can easily be done using normal animation code.
The second would have to be LUA (or you could get a coder to implement "charging gun" behavior into engine).
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According to WCPedia this is the First model Arrow Eclipse with cloaking device, circa 2673 (http://www.wcnews.com/wcpedia/File:Wc4arrow3.png). (It could be correct since it was stated in Star*Soldier, that "the only good thing the Black Lance ever gave to us was the Arrow Eclipse".)
The textures look like they fit with the Black Lance.
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Its not look very nice ._. The Dragon texture copy looks bad. So I just make some color textures black ._.
(http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/3378/screen0117.jpg)
I hope that some help us with the textures again :( It don't look very nice. And we need for the Dragon and Arrow some cloaking textures. Pls ask some people too to help with this :)
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What do you think of giving the Border Worlds a few WC1 and 2 fighters as a reference to the WC4 Novel and Unknown Enemy?
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Are an Option. I have the BWS Fleet ready. Concordia Class (Princeton) Durango, Tallahassee, Southampton, Armadeus (Confed: Clarkson) and the Caernavon done. We still need the Black Lance ships and station. On the Vesuvius and Durango we have old turret design. Need to be replaced by the prologue ones. Czacen did not respond to my request so the idea to use his Exeter II is no more. We only can use them the Secret Ops ships from here: http://killerwave.solsector.net/Ships.html
Here we need the Axius Base, Black Lance Carrier and Blacklance Transport. And the Kilrathi Base. Sol Sector Base is on disc but need textures. The BWS Station would be need too. That is all. Music and some speechfiles already on disc.
For the Black Lance I use the Thunderbold, Arrow and Hellcat with Black textures (looks a little bit ugly) For the Dragon we need the cloking EFF textures. Playerships are done: Arrow, Hellcat V, Longbow, Thunderbold (in Confedblue/gray), Excalibur and the Bearcat.
(http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/3214/screen0127.jpg)
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The Red Paintings look beautiful on those Capships.
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As CMDBob show his Tallahassee at the CIC I make these ones:
(http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/5100/screen0133.jpg)
Confed Green ;D
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(http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/2877/confedfleet02.jpg)
Cybot78 has send me another huge shippack with stations and capships. We now have! the Black Lance Carrier and the Black Lance Transport. He made a variant of the Vesuvius Class :)
Now we need help with textures and turrets on the two Black Lance ships.
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deathsnake, I got a reply from jason regarding his models! I'm afraid he won't provide them sadly!
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Sad but ok. I have several models what we can use for Last Line of Defence. I have from Cybot over 170! Models (Capships, Transporter, Fighter, Stations etc pp)
Update: For the Cloaking Effect I would use for the Black Lance Carrier and Transport this one:
http://www.youtube.com/user/damaista#p/u/14/ZH7uMFQBIw4
But I don't know if Valathil has made a build for this. Or how I start the cloak/decloak. Have anyone test this effect?
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Starman01 has made some new models but I don't know if we can used it and if it fit into the prologue. I ask him about the models :D
http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=71822.0
The capitalships are designed for Saga Darkest Dawn.
Hm, just noticed that :) These capitalships , or better said all models in this thread you mentioned here, have nothing to do with WCS at all. If you want them, you can have them. You just need to find someone who can texture them :pimp:
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My favorite ship I would see for O.S. is done:
Say welcome to the Northampton Class Heavy destroyer:
(http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/7325/wc4blczacenddclass01.jpg)
The Northhampton have 2 AMG, 7 Laser and 2 Missilelauncher. Build as a counterpart for the Ralaxath Class late in the Kilrathi / Terran war, the construction stopped after a few ships. Tolwyn take the first ships and the planes and take it for the Black Lance Force. Here the construction are continued. About 500m long its bigger then the Southampton Class. The small hangar has 4 Arrows and 1 Shuttle
Credits goes to Czacen for the design and Cybot078 for building this model. Textures are missing but would be the same as the Southampton Class have. Also we need the prologue turrets.
Hard but for myself Sagas Savannah and here the Northampton are from the design better than the original. My personal opinion but perhaps you think the same ;)
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The Northhampton reminds me on both the Free Trader (TCS Bonnie Heather) and the Hades-class (TCS Cerberus). But I like this design.
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We've got all!
The last two models for Operation Serpent are now on disc:
(http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/3222/bwoutpost01.jpg)
Border Worlds Outpost
(http://www.wcnews.com/chatzone/attachments/mobile-base-01-jpg.5020/)
Black Lance Base
Now we need help with the textures on the Bases (Axius, Outpost, Sector Base) and textures and turrets on the Black Lance Carrier (short, long hangar deck) Black Lance Transport and Northampton heavy destroyer. Then we have all done for Operation Serpent :)
Update: Cybot078 give me a updatet model of the Black Lance Base (with Thrusters, mobile Base) Pic updatet.
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Talla with Plasma Gun:
Now the Talla has a working Plasma Gun and two Capshiplauncher. I used it perhaps in Confedgray like in WC4 (http://www.wcnews.com/ships/wc3confedcruiser.shtml)
(http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/3601/screen0145.jpg)
the same with the Vesuvius Class. Confed Gray (as a joke I color it also in WC1+2 green and Border World red)
(http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/8291/screen0143.jpg)
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Cybot078 build now Prologue Turrets on the Black Lance Capital Ships:
(http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/252/plogturretblships.jpg)
The Transport is follow soon and all ships needs textures. Then they done :D
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And here are the Transport. He has the idea that not only the Black Lance has the new Transport, so he make several ones. The Cargo can put on the model with docking points :) The armament are very strong. This is a kind of Transport, Pirates and others fear! The Cargo can be Cargo Container, Supply Container and Fuel Tanks
(http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/1193/heavyarmedtransports01.jpg)
What do you think about it?
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I like the design and the idea behind this transport. But with that strong armament I'd rather call it a Q-ship (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q-ship) without consealed turrets.
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The transport model looks good :) But is has more weapons than a medium carrier. Transport with so much firepower are not really "WC-Like" if you ask me :)
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I like the design and the idea behind this transport. But with that strong armament I'd rather call it a Q-ship (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q-ship) without consealed turrets.
It doesn't have to be a Q-ship, which is a civilian vessel that has been armed or sometimes a purpose built vessel that looks like a cargo vessel but is actually just heavily armed.
It could also be an armed fleet collier.
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Yes I'm cut (when its done) a few turrets away from each ship. But look on the other side: the Transport here is not "little" . The short one is about 400m (Sheffield size), the big one about 600-700m (Tallahassee-Concordia-Class size). This Transport is really huge ;) Not as little as the 160m *g* of the Clarkson.
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Updates on the Black Lance Ships:
(http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/5788/cfblcvaprotype01.jpg)
(http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/1046/cfblcvbprotype01.jpg)
(http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/7356/cfblddprotype01.jpg)
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(http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/7356/cfblddprotype01.jpg)
I might snitch this one someday ;) ;7