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Title: You poor Europeans
Post by: FlamingCobra on October 31, 2011, 08:53:07 am
What are you going to do about the invasion of the American Gray Squirrel?
Title: Re: You poor Europeans
Post by: Jeff Vader on October 31, 2011, 08:57:12 am
Eat it.
Title: Re: You poor Europeans
Post by: FlamingCobra on October 31, 2011, 09:02:07 am
Eat it.

Just shoot it, Fox!
Title: Re: You poor Europeans
Post by: headdie on October 31, 2011, 09:11:41 am
Eat it.

Just shoot it, Fox!

apparently the grey makes for better eating than the red, hopefully we can wipe them out before the animal nut cases get wind of it
Title: Re: You poor Europeans
Post by: FlamingCobra on October 31, 2011, 12:53:52 pm
For example, it is estimated that there are three times as many deer in North America today then there were when Colombus got here. There are so many deer that they are no longer just a nuisance. They are a ****ing abomination!
Title: Re: You poor Europeans
Post by: Grizzly on October 31, 2011, 01:11:19 pm
It is not any worse then the invasion of the Muskrat several decades ago, which is a real pest for hydrology in Holland.
Title: Re: You poor Europeans
Post by: Angelus on October 31, 2011, 01:33:31 pm
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu258/_Angelus_/Squir.jpg)
Title: Re: You poor Europeans
Post by: NGTM-1R on October 31, 2011, 01:37:10 pm
It does not.

Taste like chicken, that is.
Title: Re: You poor Europeans
Post by: FlamingCobra on October 31, 2011, 02:14:51 pm
<IMG>http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu258/_Angelus_/Squir.jpg</img>
^ That is actually pretty awesome. I like that.  :nod: Good job sir. You are to be commended.  :yes: :yes: :yes:
Title: Re: You poor Europeans
Post by: Jeff Vader on October 31, 2011, 02:33:00 pm
(http://assets.smokingmeatforums.com/5/56/56861445_funny-pictures-evil-black-squirrel2.jpg)
Title: Re: You poor Europeans
Post by: mjn.mixael on October 31, 2011, 03:45:44 pm
What happens if you shoot a squirrel with a 12 gauge?
Title: Re: You poor Europeans
Post by: StarSlayer on October 31, 2011, 03:54:46 pm
(http://theflickcast.com/wp-content/uploads//kick-ass-red-mist-small.jpg)
Title: Re: You poor Europeans
Post by: Mongoose on October 31, 2011, 04:02:35 pm
Eat it.
"Where's Eddie?  He usually eats these goddamn things."
Title: Re: You poor Europeans
Post by: MP-Ryan on October 31, 2011, 05:02:04 pm
What happens if you shoot a squirrel with a 12 gauge?

Vapour, that's what.
Title: Re: You poor Europeans
Post by: Nuke on October 31, 2011, 05:09:53 pm
For example, it is estimated that there are three times as many deer in North America today then there were when Colombus got here. There are so many deer that they are no longer just a nuisance. They are a ****ing abomination!

thats because we killed off all the people that hunted them, and replaced them with rednecks. despite superior firepower, the rednecks still fail to kill them in the numbers done in the times of old by the former masters of this fine country of ours. so we need to get more people into hunting so we can show them deer what for. give the hippies guns and hunting licenses and let them make war with the deer.

also fail quote, i broke your post, lol.
Title: Re: You poor Europeans
Post by: MP-Ryan on October 31, 2011, 05:14:53 pm
For example, it is estimated that there are three times as many deer in North America today then there were when Colombus got here. There are so many deer that they are no longer just a nuisance. They are a ****ing abomination!

thats because we killed off all the people that hunted them, and replaced them with rednecks. despite superior firepower, the rednecks still fail to kill them in the numbers done in the times of old by the former masters of this fine country of ours. so we need to get more people into hunting so we can show them deer what for. give the hippies guns and hunting licenses and let them make war with the deer.

Uh nuke, it has a lot more to do with the depletion of natural predator populations in general than human-regulated population control... that, and our agricultural conversion of a lot of natural prairie and woodland to agricultural feed has given deer a lot of access to larger and better food supplies, AND they've adapted well to living within human population centers to avoid natural predation and have a ready supply of food.

Considering that the First Nations population of North America was relatively small and sparse to begin with, I'd be seriously surprised if human hunting pressure on deer stocks is not the same or greater now than at the time of the European migration.
Title: Re: You poor Europeans
Post by: Nuke on October 31, 2011, 05:17:07 pm
For example, it is estimated that there are three times as many deer in North America today then there were when Colombus got here. There are so many deer that they are no longer just a nuisance. They are a ****ing abomination!

thats because we killed off all the people that hunted them, and replaced them with rednecks. despite superior firepower, the rednecks still fail to kill them in the numbers done in the times of old by the former masters of this fine country of ours. so we need to get more people into hunting so we can show them deer what for. give the hippies guns and hunting licenses and let them make war with the deer.

Uh nuke, it has a lot more to do with the depletion of natural predator populations in general than human-regulated population control... that, and our agricultural conversion of a lot of natural prairie and woodland to agricultural feed has given deer a lot of access to larger and better food supplies, AND they've adapted well to living within human population centers to avoid natural predation and have a ready supply of food.

Considering that the First Nations population of North America was relatively small and sparse to begin with, I'd be seriously surprised if human hunting pressure on deer stocks is not the same or greater now than at the time of the European migration.

i just want to draw more hippies into the woods so i can shoot them and say i thought they were deer.

and i can attest to them staying near people to avoid hunters. the number of bucks that hang out in city limits is rather large, while in the sticks there arent that many too choose from and certainly none with racks that are as large as the ones that hang out around by the airport or by the post office.
Title: Re: You poor Europeans
Post by: StarSlayer on October 31, 2011, 06:28:47 pm
For example, it is estimated that there are three times as many deer in North America today then there were when Colombus got here. There are so many deer that they are no longer just a nuisance. They are a ****ing abomination!

thats because we killed off all the people that hunted them, and replaced them with rednecks. despite superior firepower, the rednecks still fail to kill them in the numbers done in the times of old by the former masters of this fine country of ours. so we need to get more people into hunting so we can show them deer what for. give the hippies guns and hunting licenses and let them make war with the deer.

Uh nuke, it has a lot more to do with the depletion of natural predator populations in general than human-regulated population control... that, and our agricultural conversion of a lot of natural prairie and woodland to agricultural feed has given deer a lot of access to larger and better food supplies, AND they've adapted well to living within human population centers to avoid natural predation and have a ready supply of food.

Considering that the First Nations population of North America was relatively small and sparse to begin with, I'd be seriously surprised if human hunting pressure on deer stocks is not the same or greater now than at the time of the European migration.

IIRC they reintroduced wolves to Yellowstone a while back and they completely re-calibrated the whole ecosystem for the better in a few short years.  Nature's a finely balanced intricate machine and we've done plenty to destabilize it :P
Title: Re: You poor Europeans
Post by: Flipside on October 31, 2011, 08:23:41 pm
Actually, talking of animals in the UK, I've been noticing growing concern about domestic cats killing birds pointlessly, which is hilarious because (a) It's humans complaining, the biggest joy-killer on the planet and (b) the whole reason we domesticated them was because cats habitually do exactly this, and it kept mice and birds away from crops and store-sheds.

As for the grey squirrel, to be honest, I don't think that there are any Red squirrels left on Mainland UK anyway, so it's pretty much a moot point, it's just nature doing what it always does.
Title: Re: You poor Europeans
Post by: IceFire on October 31, 2011, 11:38:22 pm
But apparently I hear that the Black Squirrel (a variation on the Grey) is fairly rare? I remember reading a BBC article about the mysterious and rare Black squirrel. At that moment there were 6 outside in the field by my window. We've got plenty of Grey and Black around here with a mix of Red Squirrel too. Apparently our Red Squirrel is not the same as the European Red Squirrel.... significantly more tenacious.

It's guaranteed that I see at least a dozen to two dozen of these creatures on a daily basis... so I read up on them a few times :)
Title: Re: You poor Europeans
Post by: Mars on October 31, 2011, 11:42:30 pm
We have a few grey, a ****ton of red, and squirrels that boggle the mind in the Rockies.

(Albert's squirrel, like the "devil" one in a picture someone posted last page)
Title: Re: You poor Europeans
Post by: Flipside on November 01, 2011, 12:29:40 am
With regards to the Black squirrel, I think the best part about those was the Daily Mails' reaction to them ;) They obviously hadn't read up on the history of the squirrel in the UK because it was a quite obviously designed piece to highlight the fact that these squirrels (a) might one day push out the current inhabitants and (b) were black. I think they thought they were being subtle, and maybe it was to a Daily Mail reader, but it wasn't to pretty much everyone else...
Title: Re: You poor Europeans
Post by: Grizzly on November 01, 2011, 04:57:26 am
Considering that the First Nations population of North America was relatively small and sparse to begin with, I'd be seriously surprised if human hunting pressure on deer stocks is not the same or greater now than at the time of the European migration.

In that book I talked about a while ago - Guns, Germs, and Steel - It was stated that there were studies that the population of the Americas was not as small as was previously assumed, and that the effects of the germs that the european colononists brought was much greater then assumed (IE - They all got killed by our diseases before we even got to most of them).

EDIT AFTER NUKE's POST: Also - There's not much hunters 'round lately, whilst it probably was the major food source for the natives.
Title: Re: You poor Europeans
Post by: Nuke on November 01, 2011, 08:03:26 am
Actually, talking of animals in the UK, I've been noticing growing concern about domestic cats killing birds pointlessly, which is hilarious because (a) It's humans complaining, the biggest joy-killer on the planet and (b) the whole reason we domesticated them was because cats habitually do exactly this, and it kept mice and birds away from crops and store-sheds.

are you kidding, cats domesticated themselves. or perhaps they domesticated us.
Title: Re: You poor Europeans
Post by: NGTM-1R on November 01, 2011, 05:39:11 pm
What happens if you shoot a squirrel with a 12 gauge?

What squirrel?

.22/250 will make the thing explode, for chrissakes.
Title: Re: You poor Europeans
Post by: headdie on November 01, 2011, 05:47:19 pm
What happens if you shoot a squirrel with a 12 gauge?

cooked mince
Title: Re: You poor Europeans
Post by: Al-Rik on November 01, 2011, 08:40:09 pm
What happens if you shoot a squirrel with a 12 gauge?

Ragout ?
Maybe with Polenta (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polenta) and a dry red wine like a Merlot ?

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090324143213AASLfYZ

Anyway, if your are a marksman and able to hit such a small target with a single bullet I would suggest to prepare it like a bunny with a little  Rosemary in a Clay pot.
But don't tell your Children or your Girlfriend what it is, to avoid drama ;)
Title: Re: You poor Europeans
Post by: FlamingCobra on November 02, 2011, 04:21:54 pm
What happens if you shoot a squirrel with a 12 gauge?

What happens if you shoot a squirrel with a muzzle loader?
Title: Re: You poor Europeans
Post by: Scourge of Ages on November 02, 2011, 05:03:03 pm
What happens... If you shoot a squirrel... out of a squirrel cannon... at another squirrel?

Annnnd now the word "squirrel" looks odd to me.
Title: Re: You poor Europeans
Post by: Scotty on November 02, 2011, 05:04:11 pm
I think it explodes, than explodes again.
Title: Re: You poor Europeans
Post by: FlamingCobra on November 02, 2011, 05:51:13 pm
What happens if you have two magnetic squirrel accelerator cannons, each five hundred miles long, and you aim them at each other.... and then you shoot them at each other?
Title: Re: You poor Europeans
Post by: Nuke on November 02, 2011, 05:57:59 pm
squirrels are not magnetic, nothing would happen.
Title: Re: You poor Europeans
Post by: headdie on November 02, 2011, 06:30:29 pm
squirrels are not magnetic, nothing would happen.

metal belt?
Title: Re: You poor Europeans
Post by: Mongoose on November 02, 2011, 06:31:31 pm
Hey, you can levitate a frog if you pump enough magnetic juice into it.
Title: Re: You poor Europeans
Post by: NGTM-1R on November 02, 2011, 06:33:20 pm
Magic squirrels.
Title: Re: You poor Europeans
Post by: S-99 on November 03, 2011, 12:23:32 am
What happens... If you shoot a squirrel... out of a squirrel cannon... at another squirrel?

Annnnd now the word "squirrel" looks odd to me.
My friend shot a live squirrel he somehow baited into the barrel of a potato gun. Shot the sucker straight at a wood pile. It's morbid yes, but his parent's property had a severe squirrel over population. They tasked their son to take them out. First was bb gun, second was paintball gun, third was potato gun, and fourth was bow and arrow.

Nobody cares he got inventive, and i certainly don't either; that's a lot less ****ers stealing insulation and other ****. I feel bad however that he didn't involve blow gun in the list.
Title: Re: You poor Europeans
Post by: Pred the Penguin on November 03, 2011, 09:05:10 am
Paintball would have been slightly ineffective?
Anyway, only grey squirrels around here, and a ton of them, too. I think they're all pretty agitated because it has snowed already. Nowadays they barely even care that I'm walking right by them. O_o
Title: Re: You poor Europeans
Post by: Wobble73 on November 03, 2011, 09:11:19 am


As for the grey squirrel, to be honest, I don't think that there are any Red squirrels left on Mainland UK anyway, so it's pretty much a moot point, it's just nature doing what it always does.

Sorry Flipside, the UK's Forestry Commission disagrees with you, LINK (http://www.forestry.gov.uk/forestry/redsquirrel)
Title: Re: You poor Europeans
Post by: Ravenholme on November 03, 2011, 10:34:18 am


As for the grey squirrel, to be honest, I don't think that there are any Red squirrels left on Mainland UK anyway, so it's pretty much a moot point, it's just nature doing what it always does.

Sorry Flipside, the UK's Forestry Commission disagrees with you, LINK (http://www.forestry.gov.uk/forestry/redsquirrel)

Heck, I'm gonna disagree with Flipside. We've got a lot of Red Squirrel up here in Scotland, especially in the North East and lower Cairngorms. Indeed, this morning, I was watching a red squirrel frolicking in the ash tree outside the bathroom as I was shaving.
Title: Re: You poor Europeans
Post by: Wobble73 on November 03, 2011, 11:49:13 am


As for the grey squirrel, to be honest, I don't think that there are any Red squirrels left on Mainland UK anyway, so it's pretty much a moot point, it's just nature doing what it always does.

Sorry Flipside, the UK's Forestry Commission disagrees with you, LINK (http://www.forestry.gov.uk/forestry/redsquirrel)

Heck, I'm gonna disagree with Flipside. We've got a lot of Red Squirrel up here in Scotland, especially in the North East and lower Cairngorms. Indeed, this morning, I was watching a red squirrel frolicking in the ash tree outside the bathroom as I was shaving.


And according to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Squirrel) (granted not the most reliable source), the UK's red Squirrels have reddest coats of all European Red Squirrels, :ccol:


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The coat of the red squirrel varies in colour with time of year and location. There are several different coat colour morphs ranging from black to red. Red coats are most common in Great Britain; in other parts of Europe and Asia different coat colours co-exist within populations, much like hair colour in some human populations.


Reminds me of you Scots Ravenholme  :lol:
Title: Re: You poor Europeans
Post by: Flipside on November 03, 2011, 11:55:34 am
Well, I'll stand corrected then, I'd heard that Red Squirrels were only to be found on the Isles now and weren't in the mainland UK. Seems I heard wrong :) I certainly haven't seen any for donkey's years.
Title: Re: You poor Europeans
Post by: S-99 on November 04, 2011, 04:15:16 am
Paintball would have been slightly ineffective?
Definitely. Was interesting watching a squirrel jump from a branch and then all of a sudden do constant spins to the ground. Enough paint balls will kill the sucker. Idk if my friend got to that sadistic point for a little bit or not.
Title: Re: You poor Europeans
Post by: Nuke on November 05, 2011, 11:34:00 am
out it the bush where my sister lives we are more concerned with porcupines. they like to chew on things, like power lines and hydraulic cables and stuff. so they usually get shot on site, stoned to death, run over, or catapulted into a river. squirrels never bothered me, but usually a blowgun or high power airsoft is all you need to kill em.
Title: Re: You poor Europeans
Post by: S-99 on November 06, 2011, 04:39:33 am
A sufficiently powerful cheap springer will kill most small animals. Usually 300 fps at the minimum. I can't help but chuckle when i'm outside, i hear a loud crack, and my power's out. Damn squirrel died on the transformer before it had a chance to scream. Happens every damn year. Squirrels do learn pretty well where they shouldn't go depending on how adamant you are at keeping them away from something. Just not transformers.