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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Reppyboyo on May 31, 2002, 03:46:31 pm

Title: W2K SP2 or XP?
Post by: Reppyboyo on May 31, 2002, 03:46:31 pm: im dual-bootin soon
98SE and another OS

which one is betta W2K wid SP2 or WinXp pro
Title: W2K SP2 or XP?
Post by: Vertigo1 on June 01, 2002, 04:42:22 pm: Go with 2k.

You can actually burn CDs out of the box on 2k. ;) (You have to download ASPI drivers to burn CDs in XP)

Nitpicking aside, XP is just 2k ME-ified. Wait for XP SP1 before upgrading.
Title: W2K SP2 or XP?
Post by: Sandwich on June 01, 2002, 04:58:46 pm: Actually depends on what hardware you're running. I've run 2k Pro perfectly fine on a Pentium 2 200Mhz MMX laptop with 96Mb RAM - smooth as silk. Meanwhile, XP Home ran like molasses on my brother's Celeron 500/128Mb RAM - and yes, it's the Celeron with cache. ( :rolleyes: )

Besides, 2k has had all the drivers ironed out already, XP hasn't yet.

One other thing is that you're dual-booting. The only reson to prefer XP over 2K is for it's gaming stuff, but 98se solves that. But hey - I do all my gaming in 2k anyways - so I lose 5 frames from my frame rate , but I gain stability. :yes:
Title: W2K SP2 or XP?
Post by: Reppyboyo on June 01, 2002, 05:03:54 pm: looks like im goin wid W2K
thanx peeps
Title: W2K SP2 or XP?
Post by: Sandwich on June 01, 2002, 07:48:06 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Reppyboyo
looks like im goin wid W2K

:yes:
Title: W2K SP2 or XP?
Post by: Thorn on June 01, 2002, 07:56:45 pm: Yeah.. I'm running XP right now, and it does have a few problems... slower than 2K like Sandwich said... Once they iron the bugs out of it, XP will be the best one.
The only drawback to 2K is that some programs wont run on it.
Title: W2K SP2 or XP?
Post by: Fury on June 02, 2002, 06:56:54 am: Overall, I think XP is the best of the two. It does have better game compatibility.

But if you are dual booting anyways, then it might be better to take W2k and play under W98.

M$ quits supporting W98 this summer, so don't expect new patches for it after summer.
Title: W2K SP2 or XP?
Post by: Redfang on June 02, 2002, 12:46:00 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Mr. Fury
M$ quits supporting W98 this summer, so don't expect new patches for it after summer.

Isn't it next (2003) summer? I hope so... :headz:
Title: W2K SP2 or XP?
Post by: wEvil on June 02, 2002, 12:47:09 pm: XP is a terrible peice of bug ridden S**e

Performance goes down the pan, the supposedly "new" caching code degrades write performance to under 10% of what it was before, and dont get me started on what it does to memory or CPU performance.

If you dont play that many games, just use win2k.

XP i'm not touching with a bargepole for at least another year.
Title: W2K SP2 or XP?
Post by: Sandwich on June 02, 2002, 12:51:22 pm: Quote
Originally posted by wEvil
...bug ridden S**e

S**e??? :wtf:
Title: W2K SP2 or XP?
Post by: Reppyboyo on June 02, 2002, 03:33:21 pm: thats y im duel-bootin

98SE for Games/Internet

W2K for apps like 3d studio max etc (betta mam management and stability)
Title: W2K SP2 or XP?
Post by: Thorn on June 02, 2002, 04:07:17 pm: What I'm doing once I format.. 2k for everything ME/98 for what 2k wont run.
Title: W2K SP2 or XP?
Post by: Fury on June 03, 2002, 02:48:28 am: Quote
Originally posted by Redfang

Isn't it next (2003) summer? I hope so... :headz:

No, it's this summer as far as I know. M$ already quitted supporting of Win95 some time ago. This forces people to go with XP as it does have better gaming support than W2k, unless they don't give jack **** about OS updates. ;) Also, M$ also quits NT4 support at the same time as W98, this forces companies to move to W2k or XP.

And as we all know, WinME is not an option...
Title: W2K SP2 or XP?
Post by: Reppyboyo on June 03, 2002, 05:46:55 am: 98 support ends this summer...
i dont like ME
too bloody buggy
Title: W2K SP2 or XP?
Post by: Sandwich on June 03, 2002, 08:32:11 am: Quote
Originally posted by Reppyboyo
98 support ends this summer...
i dont like ME
too bloody buggy

That's what XP reminds me of! WinME's buggy everything around 2K's stable kernel - but with an interface designed by Fisher-Price... :D :lol:
Title: W2K SP2 or XP?
Post by: wEvil on June 03, 2002, 08:36:26 am: Quote
Originally posted by sandwich

S**e??? :wtf:

****e :rolleyes: ;)
Title: W2K SP2 or XP?
Post by: Redfang on June 03, 2002, 08:36:41 am: Check this (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/lifecycle.asp) for support things...

So it seems that Win98 will be supported till June, 2003. Good for me. :)
Title: W2K SP2 or XP?
Post by: Vertigo1 on June 03, 2002, 09:36:19 pm: Quote
Originally posted by wEvil
XP is a terrible peice of bug ridden S**e

Performance goes down the pan, the supposedly "new" caching code degrades write performance to under 10% of what it was before, and dont get me started on what it does to memory or CPU performance.

If you dont play that many games, just use win2k.

XP i'm not touching with a bargepole for at least another year.

And if you have any SCSI hardware, do not get XP. Performance is well below IDE speeds.
Title: W2K SP2 or XP?
Post by: Fury on June 04, 2002, 02:42:12 am: Quote
Originally posted by MD-2389

And if you have any SCSI hardware, do not get XP. Performance is well below IDE speeds.

This is fixed already if I remember correctly.

Edit: And WinXP works like a dream for me, still there are some minor bugs and I can't wait for SP1 to be released. ;)
Title: W2K SP2 or XP?
Post by: Vertigo1 on June 04, 2002, 04:57:38 pm: To my knowlege, it hasn't.
Title: W2K SP2 or XP?
Post by: mikhael on June 04, 2002, 07:25:49 pm: I'll give the same advice I always give: don't install the newest Microsoft OS. Get the SECOND newest. 2k over XP. 98SE over ME. Why? Bug fixes, patches, UI fixes.

The only reason to run an XP system right now is if you bought a machine with XP pre installed.
Title: W2K SP2 or XP?
Post by: Fury on June 05, 2002, 03:55:37 am: mikhael, no offence but your advice is not good.

I've been running WinXP for many months now, and I can honestly say that XP is better than W98(SE), ME or 2k.

Of course everyone has their own opinions and experiences with each OS, but for me XP has been the best. I haven't encoutered any major bugs, most have been already fixed (windowsupdate).

Of course a better advice is to wait for SP1 before buying XP. :)

No OS can be perfect for every system, that is PC's achilles heel.
For example, WinME can work like a dream for some few systems, while being like a nightmare for most.

But I can say that I won't change back to W98 or W2k in any case, and I am happy when SP1 comes out and fixes the major bugs, even if I haven't encoutered the bugs.
Title: W2K SP2 or XP?
Post by: Darkage on June 05, 2002, 03:55:47 am: I have XP profesional installed now, but i ain't to happy whit it. i think i am going to format and dual boot the main OS wil be win2k for rendering and other graphical applications and win98se for gaming. Or maby only win2k as i don't game that much anymore.

And will win2k run properly on my moms p1 225 mhz mmx whit 64mb ram?
Title: W2K SP2 or XP?
Post by: Fury on June 05, 2002, 04:00:30 am: darkage, it's sad to hear that. But as I said, there is no OS that is good for every possible system configuration and people.

Here is Windows 2000 minimal system requirements:
Computer/Processor: 133 MHz or higher Pentium-compatible CPU
Memory: 64 megabytes (MB) of RAM recommended minimum; more memory generally improves responsiveness
Hard Disk: 2GB hard disk with a minimum of 650MB of free space
CPU Support: Windows 2000 Professional supports single and dual CPU systems

Edit: If you install W2k on the system you described, don't expect good performance on it...
Title: W2K SP2 or XP?
Post by: Darkage on June 05, 2002, 05:12:23 am: Quote
Originally posted by Mr. Fury
darkage, it's sad to hear that. But as I said, there is no OS that is good for every possible system configuration and people.

Here is Windows 2000 minimal system requirements:
Computer/Processor: 133 MHz or higher Pentium-compatible CPU
Memory: 64 megabytes (MB) of RAM recommended minimum; more memory generally improves responsiveness
Hard Disk: 2GB hard disk with a minimum of 650MB of free space
CPU Support: Windows 2000 Professional supports single and dual CPU systems

Edit: If you install W2k on the system you described, don't expect good performance on it...

I agree whit that, since i use XP i must admit my system is allot more stable then it ever was, but it has trouble whit my Geforce2 100/200 drivers even the new drivers it makes the system unstable. And a friend of mine has the same card and runs perfect under 2k and i hate the lockups. So thats already a reason to go and install 2k profesional.

Hmmm....my moms pc does have abit more power then the recommend specs but not very much, i think it's worth a try, i'll proberly need to disable the fancie fucntions to let it run abit better, as win98se on her pc is a ***** to configure the network settings whit. So i'll just try and see what happens.